Just ordered ARB locker for the rear axle, with 24 spline.


Need to find what 24 spline drive flanges will fit my 86 EFI Rangy hubs if any one has suggestions.
Intend to have half shafts custom built so length of drive flange is not important, it just has to be tough and fit my Rangy hub with 24 spline.

Searched and searched, found zilch, is it me ?


Waiting for the onslaught,

you either have to do the two piece shaft flange thingy, or change your hubs to abs style to use the one piece flange/shaft.

j

Jack MacNamara makes the best ones IMO, but they are pricey... about $100US each. As far as shafts go, why are you having them custom made? If you found a set of ABS spindles and hubs, you could run an off-the-shelf rear axleshaft that would most likely be exceedingly stronger than what you would have made, plus if (when?) you do break one, they are available immediately as replacements.

Do it the right way, and get the ABS hubs and spindles (your brake components will still work), Jack Mac drive flanges, and some of the Never Summer Offroad rear shafts.

You can use MD, or Ashcroft (since you are in the UK) or you can use the D90 military rear flanges.

Thanks for the feed back guys, $1000 is toooooo much for flanges.

I was interested to learn of the ABS setup, presumably from a later Rangy, would that be the one after the classic (P38) ?

I happen to be in the same street as a shop that makes shafts for trevor milner of millner off road http://www.milnerconv.co.uk/offroad.htm. Millner are big into Yota truck racing here in the UK. They are reputed to be much better than Ashcroft shafts and is offering a cash price only slightly more than Ashcroft. Problem is the shafts would be splined at each end, hence the need for splined drive flanges.
I was hoping some other land rover varient would use 24 spline drive flanges that would fit my rangy hubs.

My land rover knowlage is week as I have come from Zook land.

What is the 'two piece shaft flange thingy'

The 'D90 military rear flanges.' are worth looking into, will they fit rangy classic hubs ?

Keep it comming guys while I digest what you have given so far.

Cheers

Here is a pic of the vehicle, most the Rangey bits have gone.

http://www.difflock.com/discus/messages/18156/18737.jpg

Working on rear at the moment.

http://www.difflock.com/discus/messages/18156/20904.jpg

You want the hubs and spindles from a non-P38 Range Rover that had ABS. I believe ABS was first installed in 1990- but verify that to be sure. The spindles bolt on in place of your current ones, and are shorter. That, combined with the ABS hubs, leaves you with the same track width but a different axle shaft length.

The Jack Mac flanges are $200 US for the pair, not $1000.

Looks to me like a the D90 military rear flange would work (then again, looks to me ANY flange would work! :flipoff2: )...

Call up Paddocks or Craddocks in the UK and get some details. I am SURE that craddocks can sell you something of quality for VERY cheap!

Thanks guys, I now have a cunning plan coming together. (British humour, do ya get black adder on your t.v.)

You have quickly given me a lot to go on.

Black Adder rocks! So does Monty Python!

http://www.atlanticbritish.com/product/img/Icn/ftc859.JPG
FTC859

the 'abs' style flange

-Jeff

Interesting that your rear shock/spring setup is what many consider a step backward.

I myself enjoy the fact that the shock and springs in the rear are seperate and have been looking for a clean solution to place the front shock outside and rearwards of the front spring.

http://www.difflock.com/discus/messages/18156/20904.jpg

Well I don't know if I dare challange the Serious One, you have a very high repute.

May be it is because I am from little old England, and are only experienced in modifing farm implements. Lol.

It is a twelve inch stroke damper and I did not want it sticking in my neck. I thought it was tidyer, does it not maximise the damper capability by operating in the same plane as the spring ?



(Sits back and waits to be educated - No seriously)

I've gotta rear axle housing laying around somewhere off of a '90 or '91 RRC with ABS and it had separate flanges. If you are going to have custom half shafts made up couldn't you use Disco or 110 fronts as well? I know the Disco front flanges fit the RRC hubs as I used them as covers once when I drove a truck with the shafts pulled.

Originally posted by Zook Junki
Well I don't know if I dare challange the Serious One, you have a very high repute.

Oh now I feel stupid. ;)

No, really I was just finding it interesting that you're going the exact opposite way of what I've been trying to do. I'm the last person to say that there's only one right way to do anything on a LR. I am sure you have reasons to do what you did, nothing hand-built gets put together frivilously (ok, maybe Sam's trucks).

Nothing is wrong with farm implements. I, myself am looking at one of them.

http://www.unimogcanada.com/images/sales/U1550L1.jpg

I was wondering about using 110 flanges since you're going to have custom axles made anyway, but now I can't remember if the spindles are different (I don't think they are).

The 110 flanges are about twice as thick as the 90 flanges, factory ones are cheap enough not to scare you away. The Macnamara ones are sweet, but they are not free (i.e. cheap).

I want to hear more about your buggy. Specs, more photos, etc.

The thick 110 flanges have a very slightly smaller bolt pattern. We learned the hard way and had to clock and re-drill holes in a hub after buggering it trying to get the 110 flanges to work on a non-110 hub (late 90 is what we were using). Some early 90's also used this same 110 hub with the slightly narrower pattern. They also used a funky 32 spline CV that is exactly the same as the AEU2522 in dimensions, but has the 32 spline input (read 1" axle).

Billster

I was wondering about using 110 flanges since you're going to have custom axles made anyway, but now I can't remember if the spindles are different (I don't think they are).

best (cheapest) bet is to use a pair of 90/110 early (as in 23 spline) front stub axles and hub assemblies (called "hub & stud" in the parts book... its the bit with the 5 wheel studs on).

this will fit straight onto a disco/rangie rear axle, and the standard rangie caliper is still in the right place if you bolt a standard rngie/disco disc rear disc to it. all in all.... it fits!

the rangie rear hub that you currently have only has a 9/16 bolt to hold the drive hub in place (unless you get one of the last rangie 300Tdi era hubs that used the 17mm bolt like the defenders).

also... if you try fitting a "defender" type drive flange (the early thick one) to a rangie hub, a) the 9/16"'s bolts won't hold the drive flange in place properly (As the holes are designed for 17mm M10 bolts) and the PCS of the 5 bolts is slightly different, and the hub ends up working its way loose all the time.
i found out by experience! the mix-mach of hubs is what i've got on my 90's and it works a treat.

Thanks for the low-down guys. Sterling work.

Serious One, I will post up on the Buggy in the near future