: Another BTG buggy in the works...


BadAZYj
02-18-2004, 05:13 PM
Specs. Started as a 93 YJ... stock 4.0 and AX-15, flipped 300 with 4:1 and HD output shaft, Front and rear 60s all 35 spline, 37" Krawlers on 17" TR beadlocks, Stretched to 107"WB, Fox Airshocks in the back Here it is at it sits... still alot left:eek:

BadAZYj
02-18-2004, 05:17 PM
34.5" at the rocker;)

BadAZYj
02-18-2004, 05:18 PM
:p

desertCJ
02-18-2004, 05:26 PM
Cool...How much clearence under the skid plate and what is the over all height going to be? The buggy I'm building will be 31" at the rockers,24" under the skid and an overall height of 76".

BadAZYj
02-18-2004, 05:33 PM
Ive got about 25" at the skid, and top of the cage will be 75-76" depending on where my seats end up... sometimes its good to be short:p

elf_cruiser
02-18-2004, 05:54 PM
Damn - I'm good, those rockers turned out Niiiiice...

Git eR DuN!!!:flipoff2:

desertCJ
02-18-2004, 06:01 PM
I see cut and welded tube....must not be that good:flipoff2:

BadAZYj
02-18-2004, 06:08 PM
actually, it was that good:flipoff2: I just sleeved the inside of that tube cuz my last .120 wall rockers didnt like the rocks much... hopefully the being sleeved and 34.5" high these will fend a little better;)

desertCJ
02-18-2004, 06:13 PM
AH I see said the blind man as he pissed into the wind:D My rockers are getting skinned with 3/16" steel so No worries there.

pmurf1
02-18-2004, 07:32 PM
Do you even have a plan (or a clue for that matter)?

Good call on leaving the firewall. That saves you so much time it's not funny. Until you make the leap to full on comp buggy, it's so much faster to fab up something to hold the pedals/master, etc. where they once were, even if it's bootyfab.

Just don't let elf dick help you build your cage and you'll be OK.:flipoff2:

twistedTOY
02-18-2004, 07:42 PM
Originally posted by pmurf1
Do you even have a plan (or a clue for that matter)?

Good call on leaving the firewall. That saves you so much time it's not funny. Until you make the leap to full on comp buggy, it's so much faster to fab up something to hold the pedals/master, etc. where they once were, even if it's bootyfab.

Just don't let elf dick help you build your cage and you'll be OK.:flipoff2:

PAT!!! what the HELL r u doin in the HEEP section??? ewwwwww

Nice job Scott!!!:beer:

ROKTOY
02-18-2004, 08:10 PM
Originally posted by twistedTOY

PAT!!! what the HELL r u doin in the HEEP section??? ewwwwww


I fell in here too...... :D

Go Scott!!

Jay

H8monday
02-18-2004, 08:11 PM
I didnt realize I was such an inspiration to you AZ guys.:flipoff2:
http://tellico.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/1034471-h83a.jpg

Looks good.
Keep up the good work!

Ben Holloway
02-18-2004, 08:23 PM
i always wondered when you were gonna cut that thing up should be pretty sick when its all said and done

Ben

BadAZYj
02-19-2004, 02:43 AM
Yes Pat I have a plan (now):flipoff2: A clue???? not sure on that one...



and yeah Jeff, Ive always liked your rig It would be even better without that orange tube:p

H8monday
02-19-2004, 07:46 AM
Originally posted by BadAZYj
Yes Pat I have a plan (now):flipoff2: A clue???? not sure on that one...



and yeah Jeff, Ive always liked your rig It would be even better without that orange tube:p


I just need to get out to AZ and wheel with you guys.
The Orange tube looks much more lovely in person when your looking up at it, sitting atop a waterfall.:flipoff2:

You guys have some awsome trails out there, and the AZ heat doesnt bother me, I grew up in Tucson.

JackA
02-19-2004, 09:31 AM
Originally posted by H8monday



I just need to get out to AZ and wheel with you guys.
The Orange tube looks much more lovely in person when your looking up at it, sitting atop a waterfall.:flipoff2:

You guys have some awsome trails out there, and the AZ heat doesnt bother me, I grew up in Tucson.


So cruise on out. I thought I read something about some of you guys going to wheel in AZ soon. And filming?

Anyways, good to hear you have a plan now Scott. Take your time and do it right. Well, not too much time.;)

ashmanjeepXJ
02-19-2004, 10:29 AM
cool project.

Blatant
02-19-2004, 10:47 AM
Scott, you homo. Looks good. I just couldn't stay away!!
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BadAZYj
02-19-2004, 12:01 PM
You should definitely come to AZ Jeff, just wait until I get my junk running again;)

Thanks for all the compliments guys, it gives me motivation to go out there and work on it :p And Blatant:flipoff2: I knew you couldnt stay away... You still have the ducati?

elf_cruiser
02-21-2004, 12:54 PM
more progress... We're going to try to get the A pillar done tonight. This is the morning's work.


Derrrrrr - the angleometer says it's OK!

elf_cruiser
02-21-2004, 12:54 PM
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elf_cruiser
02-21-2004, 12:55 PM
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elf_cruiser
02-21-2004, 12:56 PM
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elf_cruiser
02-21-2004, 12:57 PM
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LAME
02-21-2004, 02:20 PM
I am surprised that there is a Jeep in BTG:eek: :flipoff2:

Looks good:beer:

elf_cruiser
02-21-2004, 09:09 PM
Well, we got it done and took it out for a stroll to wal mart... check it out;)

elf_cruiser
02-21-2004, 09:10 PM
:rolleyes:

elf_cruiser
02-21-2004, 09:10 PM
:eek:

elf_cruiser
02-21-2004, 09:12 PM
:flipoff2:

BadAZYj
02-22-2004, 12:25 AM
:p heres todays progress pics Ill get some better ones tomorrow in the daylight.

BadAZYj
02-22-2004, 12:27 AM
:cool:

BadAZYj
02-22-2004, 07:15 PM
Getting closer:D

BadAZYj
02-22-2004, 07:19 PM
:)

BadAZYj
02-22-2004, 07:21 PM
;)

BadAZYj
02-22-2004, 07:22 PM
:flipoff2:

Azrckcrawler
02-22-2004, 07:52 PM
Looking very good Scott, can't wait to see it finished. We have some good places for you to test it out :evil:

Azrckcrawler
02-22-2004, 08:02 PM
Originally posted by LAME
I am surprised that there is a Jeep in BTG:eek:

We have no vehicle brand requirements. Actually, the drivers attitude is looked at closer than the rig.

Jeepmangled87
02-22-2004, 08:38 PM
coming along nicely, where did you get those wheels and tires they look like my buddy off his old buggy from AZ

desertCJ
02-22-2004, 09:27 PM
Lookin good:D What wheelbase is it gonna be?

LAME
02-22-2004, 11:07 PM
Originally posted by Azrckcrawler


We have no vehicle brand requirements. Actually, the drivers attitude is looked at closer than the rig.

Just giving you guys shit;) Our club is based on similar criteria, and BTG guys build some what similar rigs to Rock Heads rigs:D Low and narrow is where it always has been :D

desertCJ
02-22-2004, 11:23 PM
Ummm...he's got fullwidth axles:flipoff2:

BadAZYj
02-23-2004, 02:39 AM
Thanks Chris. Huge thanks to you and Roktoy, and huge thanks to everyone whos lent a hand in building so far(namely Elf Cruiser and JackA) :beer::beer: to ya!

Wheelbase is gonna be 107-108" as far as the wheels and tires, I could tell you but then Id have to kill you :p J/k It wasnt from your buddy I can tell you that much, the wheels were brand new when I got em. tires only had one run on em. and yes the axles are fullwidth, and I like em that way. It would suck for dodging cones, but I dont compete so I dont care about that:flipoff2:

sw99
02-23-2004, 07:35 AM
nice tube work! that thing needs some 40's!

zags
02-23-2004, 11:48 AM
Originally posted by LAME
I am surprised that there is a Jeep in BTG:eek: :flipoff2:

Looks good:beer:

So far Scott is only Jeep guy that can keep up with us!:flipoff2:


Looking good man. I've got a call in to Dave, I'm staying on top of it. Thanks for your help dude, I'll be over after ProRocks to lend a hand.

JackA
02-23-2004, 03:56 PM
Coming along nicely Scott. I should be able to help again this weekend. That is if I am not out wheeling.:flipoff2:

BadAZYj
02-23-2004, 05:01 PM
Gee thanks Jack:flipoff2: Actually, I was going to try and get the 4 link done saturday and then go throw Wes's junk on my trailer and go wheelin sunday... I need to get out:jeep3: That sound like a plan to you?

And Larry, good luck this weekend! Remember, you break em you bought em:D

Tydes
02-26-2004, 12:44 AM
scott any more updates?

Blatant
02-26-2004, 08:43 AM
Scott: Be happy to come over and help if you need it.
dion
That way you'll be obligated to come help me finish my XJ!! :flipoff2:

BigHG
02-29-2004, 09:33 PM
Scott, you could have at least hosed it off before you started hacking it up! :flipoff2:

Looking Good!

BadAZYj
03-01-2004, 11:53 AM
Bahh, It was just going to get dirty sitting in the garage anyway. Ill clean it when Im done and even give it a nice new paint scheme:p And Dion, your more than welcome to help, the more the merrier... Ill probably be working on it all this weekend(maybe even get it rolling:eek: :flipoff2:

Po' riggity
03-01-2004, 12:25 PM
Looks way Sweet Scott! Gonna be sick when its all finished up!
Scott

BadAZYj
03-02-2004, 03:26 PM
BTGs secret trail spotting machine...

:eek: :flipoff2:

Edit: oh yeah as for pic updates, I should have some tomorrow, the 4 link is nearly complete, just waiting to get my air shocks back. Hoping to get the fuel cell, seats cooler and tool box mounted this weekend, an basically thats it;)

rockr
03-03-2004, 04:50 PM
[i]seats cooler and tool box mounted this weekend, [/B]


make sure you get that cooler down good scott:flipoff2:

BadAZYj
03-04-2004, 06:17 PM
Originally posted by rockr



make sure you get that cooler down good scott:flipoff2:

Shaddup you:p

Heres some pics of the 4 link...(its not done, the bridge is going to be heavily braced, the brackets are going to be gusseted and the links are sleeved now, but this gives you a general idea) the lowers are 1.25" .120 sleeved with 1.5" .120 sleeved with 1.75".120, and the uppers are the same minus the 1.75". Heims are 3/4shankX 5/8ball Chromoly auroras, and the 16" airshocks will be mounted this weekend...

BadAZYj
03-04-2004, 06:18 PM
:eek:

BadAZYj
03-04-2004, 06:18 PM
:confused:

Buba
03-05-2004, 11:14 AM
I'm curious about the height of your mounts to the axle. I'm personally not ejumacated in 4-link design but seeing yours makes me wonder if that top bar will hang on during a good hammer down session of hill climbs. Did you take a mathematic approach to designing it ????

Sorry for being the curious rookie, but what are your anti-squat #s gonna look like.

BadAZYj
03-05-2004, 11:58 AM
Well, the top bar(bridge) is 1.75" 3/8" wall tube, and I am going to brace it by welding some tubes to the pumpkin and welding some plates to the axle tubes to gusset it. The reason its so high is to get a decent roll axis and minimize anti-squat, I havent run any numbers on it so Im not sure what it is though...


Ill let you know how it holds up in a few weeks:D

CA_YJ
03-06-2004, 04:53 PM
WOW...No matter how thick those lowers are they will fail. Placing your lowers on top of the axle is just a recipe for disaster. Pick up a physics book and read about rotational torque forces, you'll see what I mean.

Tuffjarhed
03-06-2004, 06:46 PM
I was thinkin about building a tube bridge like that, as well, but I was at a buddies shop last night and saw how he did his-1/4" plate on font and rear, 2 1/2" apart or so with 1/4" boxing it together. Bridge runs end-to-end on the tube, formed to the housing and welded all the way. STRONG LIKE BULL!!! That's how I'll go. ;)

H8monday
03-06-2004, 08:58 PM
This set up has held up very well.
http://tellico.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/1034467-h81a.jpg

H8monday
03-06-2004, 09:01 PM
nuther!
http://tellico.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/1034469-h82a.jpg

BadAZYj
03-14-2004, 06:35 PM
Actually got it out of the garage under its own power today:D Got a few more things to do but I should be testing it out next weekend...

BadAZYj
03-14-2004, 06:37 PM
:p

BadAZYj
03-14-2004, 06:38 PM
:)

elf_cruiser
03-15-2004, 08:32 AM
what a shitbox:rolleyes:

BadAZYj
03-15-2004, 11:48 AM
Yeah, well... the guy who helped me build it is :rainbow: so :flipoff2:

Road Head
03-15-2004, 11:56 AM
Is there any particular reason to link the rear, and keep leaves up front? I, too, am not that educated on suspensions. Thanks

74_Chevota
03-15-2004, 05:27 PM
Well if your front can make it through then you know that the rear will flex through. :D BTW that is a nice buggy. Get some trail pics next weekend.

AZToy
03-15-2004, 07:40 PM
looking good:)

BadAZYj
03-15-2004, 08:10 PM
Originally posted by Road Head
Is there any particular reason to link the rear, and keep leaves up front? I, too, am not that educated on suspensions. Thanks

1. I needed to tube at the back as my tub was fubarred.
2. Tubing out the back involved getting rid of my rear shackle hangers.
3.I hated getting hung up on my damn spring hangers all the time
4. I wanted to stretch the wheelbase
5. leaf springs in the back suck for climbing(imho)
6. If I could afford it right now I would go links in the front too, but the front isnt as important(to me) at this time, plus having leaves at one end will help stabilize the rig (a swaybar would do the same but again $$$$)

Need any other reasons?

and thanks for the compliments guys, next pics will definitely be in the rocks ;)

Azrckcrawler
03-22-2004, 09:00 AM
Flex is overated :rolleyes: Here's a before shot.

Azrckcrawler
03-22-2004, 09:01 AM
Here's the same line with Scott's new 4-link in back. Very good job Scott.

Azrckcrawler
03-22-2004, 09:02 AM
Climbs way better now as well. This climb nearly landed him on his lid last time (you gotta bump it pretty good).

Azrckcrawler
03-22-2004, 09:03 AM
Picture doesn't look that impressive but I am amazed how level the cab is with that drivers side air shock fully extended. That would be a good wheels up picture on a leaf sprung rig.

BadAZYj
03-22-2004, 12:11 PM
Thanks for posting the pics Chris;) You gonna post the rest in a different thread or just put em on your site?

Needless to say I am very happy with the end result. Now I just gotta get my tool rack done and get it painted and Ill be ready for moab :)

And believe it or not CA_YJ my lowers did not fail... but if they do youll be the first to know. :rolleyes: :flipoff2:

BadAZYj
07-24-2008, 04:21 PM
Hey CA YJ, My lowers are still holding up... 4+ years later...:flipoff2:

Ill be updating this thread soon as I am going to be putting a V8 in it and re-doing the front of the rig, we'll see how they hold up then I guess:shaking:

SPOA87YJ
07-25-2008, 11:58 PM
Somehow just now saw this thread....so I'm late as hell but sick rig dude.