: CJ Tube Fenders


pigpen62
02-20-2004, 02:13 PM
I've looked but can only find tube fenders for TJ's. I know their simple, but depending on price, I'd rather just buy them and not spend the time, so who sells them for CJ's??????

Jeepskate
02-20-2004, 02:18 PM
PSC is saying April now (was supposed to be this month)
Metal Fusion says they're in the works, but YJ is coming first
I've got contact info at home for another guy in TN who makes them (saw them on a project Scrambler that was on Ebay and inquired about them).
There's a couple of folks on here who are selling them (don't remember who's who off the top of my head...I know one of them sold them in combo with a grill guard but never replied to me when I PM'd about buying just the fenders since I already have a grill hoop).

SanDiegoCJ
02-20-2004, 02:38 PM
Rev 1 Crawlers makes them.


http://www.rev1crawlers.com/quark.htm

Keith
02-20-2004, 05:01 PM
I make em.....:D
Those fenders from Rev1 look heavy with the extra tube and the inners....and a bit spendy too. But, they do look well built.

pigpen62
02-20-2004, 06:34 PM
Got any pics and a price?

Keith
02-20-2004, 09:14 PM
Shouldn't really be pimpin.....

CA_YJ
02-21-2004, 11:43 AM
Originally posted by Keith
I make em.....:D
Those fenders from Rev1 look heavy with the extra tube and the inners....and a bit spendy too. But, they do look well built.

Need to update the pics. We are building a new site...anyways ditched the inner tubes and cleaned them up a bit. We should have the next rev in april also.

jeepik
02-21-2004, 01:09 PM
Originally posted by CA_YJ

..anyways ditched the inner tubes

why ditch them??? they are serve a good purpose for stability and strength of the fender, can you tell i am happy with mine???

Keith
02-21-2004, 03:44 PM
here is a set about to get some bondo.....The inner fender holds my shower pump, arb comp, batt isolator, and welder hookups.

Keith
02-21-2004, 03:47 PM
ok

Po' riggity
02-21-2004, 04:33 PM
Originally posted by Keith
here is a set about to get some bondo.....The inner fender holds my shower pump, arb comp, batt isolator, and welder hookups.

Bondo? What for?
Scott

Keith
02-21-2004, 04:49 PM
Originally posted by Po' riggity


Bondo? What for?
Scott For the pretty boys

CA_YJ
02-21-2004, 04:58 PM
Originally posted by jeepik


why ditch them??? they are serve a good purpose for stability and strength of the fender, can you tell i am happy with mine???

no need. Built a set without them...they held about 350lbs and didn't budge...to destroy the fenders you are gonna have to roll the jeep and wreck everything else also

Keith
02-21-2004, 05:10 PM
How many of the stock bolt holes do are you able to use? You cant use the upper and lower holes on the firewall, or the top on on the grill. I bondo mine because I like them to look good, and to metal finish them would require too much welding and grinding to acheive the same look. I could do them with bolt in panels, but I like the look of them smooth.

CA_YJ
02-21-2004, 06:29 PM
Ours use all of the stock ones except for the bottom one on the firewall. Its tight, but they all fit.:D

Jaffer
02-21-2004, 07:17 PM
Originally posted by pigpen62
I've looked but can only find tube fenders for TJ's. I know their simple, but depending on price, I'd rather just buy them and not spend the time, so who sells them for CJ's??????

First off, ... if that's your attitude then post up on JU with your "buy , I can't/won't build" crap. :D

But, if you do want to do an easy fab using (what's left of your old ones) just bend some tube and tie into yer hoop.
I used 1" x .150" DOM, laid it under the stock CJ sheetmetal, made a bolt-on cap to tie the tube to the radiator hoop and a tab for the top cowl bolt, trim, roll the sides, tac weld and finish.
Pretty easy ....

pancake
02-21-2004, 07:51 PM
JAF, you did not just post a pic of a sprung under jeep with the u-bolts hanging down just begging to fawked up did you.....while dissin' a guy about posting on JU!:flipoff2:

Serious note, those fens are pretty cool for modified stockers!

Jaffer
02-21-2004, 08:39 PM
Fung Goo, Pancake.:flipoff2:

... never had a prob with hanging the front plates, just the REARS which are fixed!

BTW: SUA doesn't hop like a bunny ... ;) ... unlike all the sprung over stuff.

CA_YJ
02-21-2004, 08:47 PM
What is wrong with buying stuff. Oh sorry fab god. Some people don't have shops. Others actually make money and have found that it is more efficient for them to work and buy then to not work and build. Get off your high horse and stop with that built not bought crap.

upinit
02-21-2004, 09:01 PM
I feel ya ca yj. Looking for a pair myself for the CJ.

71RCKCRZR RYAN
02-21-2004, 09:56 PM
i can set you up with what your looking for.pm me if you are interested:D

71RCKCRZR RYAN
02-21-2004, 10:01 PM
heres a link to the tj pics


http://wickedfabrication.com/gallery2/thumbnails.php?album=6

Erik D_lux
02-21-2004, 11:12 PM
Originally posted by Jaffer

BTW: SUA doesn't hop like a bunny ... ;) ... unlike all the sprung over stuff.

I understand the hopping thing but isnt it a good trade off for some clearance? The biggest reason I dont make things here is not lack of traction but hangin up on something.

Keith
02-21-2004, 11:16 PM
hey sport, looks like you are missing a leaf in that pack:flipoff2: http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?s=&postid=2502213

Jaffer
02-22-2004, 09:12 AM
Originally posted by Erik D_lux


I understand the hopping thing but isnt it a good trade off for some clearance? The biggest reason I dont make things here is not lack of traction but hangin up on something.

Well, Erik, the biggest reason you don't make things around here is not hanging up on something, it's usually lack of traction.
So I reckon it's all relative then, isn't it?
Many locals have just about given up on SOA as the first sign of it will send you sliding back down the slope ... and not necessarily in the upright positon.

Those are high dollar custom 12 (thin) leaf Nationals I bought used off of Dan Brown's old CJ comp rig, Keith.
I tried taking them down to 10 but they flexed too much. :flipoff2:

Anyhoo, going back to the original topic, despite continuous attempts to turn this place into their own prefinished bolt-on mod home shopping network ... it shouldn't be happening here. It belongs in the "Newbie" section along with all the "what lift kit or which set of bumpers should I buy" questions.
Others here have posted great ideas and examples of their "flattie" fabs, the saving grace to this whole thread.
Take the hint.
And ash can the indignant sarcasm, CA_YJ. Go back and read the Jeep Forum Mission Statement.

CA_YJ
02-22-2004, 01:39 PM
Originally posted by Jaffer


BTW: SUA doesn't hop like a bunny ... ;) ... unlike all the sprung over stuff.

Bullshit. I am SUA with good spring in the rear and I still hop. Coilovers don't hop.

SEEJAY7
02-22-2004, 04:04 PM
Is SOA's rule not in the statement?

rckjeep
02-23-2004, 04:34 PM
First off this post is about tube fenders not SOA/SUA Debate.

And second Pigpen none of these prefabbed fenders will fit your CJ. You'd need to either shorten the fender or swap to a late CJ hood and move the grill/radiator forward.

Pigpen you own a bender/welder and fab experience why not make them? I'm :confused:

pigpen62
02-26-2004, 03:01 PM
Jaffer,

Honestly, this is all rather amusing... Thanks, its always nice to get a good laugh. If you question anything on my rig, or who built it, bring it. I liked your pic:rolleyes: . Regardless of where this thread belongs, your pic was amusing.

My rig is as follows.

53M38A1..
60's front/rear w/ARB's 38.5"SX's
TBI 350/SM420/Atlas
Custom Cage
4 link rear
etc.

Oh wait, I bought an Atlas, I'm sorry.

You have no idea what equipment I have and this has nothing to do with equipment available. It has to do with I'm busy and working on other things on the rig and figured while I was linking the front end and adding coilovers that I could pay to have some fenders made. If you can't afford them, go read in the free section, might be more for you.

:D

Ben W
02-26-2004, 03:16 PM
contact this guy http://www.ultimatefenders.com/ his fenders are nice.

HighHooder
02-27-2004, 02:50 PM
Originally posted by Ben W
contact this guy http://www.ultimatefenders.com/ his fenders are nice.
I've stood on a pair of these... while they were attached to the jeep... good shit maynard, real good shit;)

WheelingPiazza
02-27-2004, 07:04 PM
I am with K on this one. Some times with timing and what not your better off buying them.

Not only that, Isnt it an unwritten rule to support PBB vendors? If K bought them from a vendor like Ryan..

RckJp, His question wasnt about what it will take to mount a prefab fender, his question was where he can get a fender to fit his CJ. And to follow your line of thinking, Did you make your spring hangers when you did your SOA? if not WHY? you have the fab skills, and a welder.

sandusk
02-28-2004, 01:48 PM
Originally posted by CA_YJ
Ours use all of the stock ones except for the bottom one on the firewall. Its tight, but they all fit.:D

I got just the frames from him a while back, they were shit. one was actually about 3/4 of an inch longer then the other one. they were not even close to square. none of the holes lined up, generally speaking it would have been a lot less hassle to just do the frames myself.

CA_YJ
02-28-2004, 02:41 PM
Originally posted by sandusk


I got just the frames from him a while back, they were shit. one was actually about 3/4 of an inch longer then the other one. they were not even close to square. none of the holes lined up, generally speaking it would have been a lot less hassle to just do the frames myself.

First off those were not Rev1 Fenders and Rev1 had absolutely no association with those. WE DO NOT MAKE FRAMES. Those are no different than the next guy's home fab job and they were built on a rig two years ago. So don't talk shit when you don't know the facts.:mad:

Jaffer
02-28-2004, 07:31 PM
Originally posted by CA_YJ
What is wrong with buying stuff. Oh sorry fab god. Some people don't have shops. Others actually make money and have found that it is more efficient for them to work and buy then to not work and build. Get off your high horse and stop with that built not bought crap.

Time to pop fer the big yellow one, Mr. Pimp.
:rolleyes:

CA_YJ
02-28-2004, 10:44 PM
Originally posted by Jaffer


Time to pop fer the big yellow one, Mr. Pimp.
:rolleyes:

Sorry dude, far from pimpin. I only posted after someone started talking about Rev1. If I chimed in saying "oh we make them" that would be a different story. ;)

sandusk
02-29-2004, 02:53 AM
Originally posted by CA_YJ


First off those were not Rev1 Fenders and Rev1 had absolutely no association with those. WE DO NOT MAKE FRAMES. Those are no different than the next guy's home fab job and they were built on a rig two years ago. So don't talk shit when you don't know the facts.:mad:

What the hell are you talking about? those fenders were made by you, and you are "Rev1", and those are far shittier then most of the home fab jobs i have seen. i sent you a few private messages so you had the opportunity to at least say your sorry for selling me shit, but you didnt even offer an apology. your sadly mistaken if you think i was going to keep my mouth shut about my experience with your low rent business.

CA_YJ
02-29-2004, 09:53 AM
Originally posted by sandusk


What the hell are you talking about? those fenders were made by you, and you are "Rev1", and those are far shittier then most of the home fab jobs i have seen. i sent you a few private messages so you had the opportunity to at least say your sorry for selling me shit, but you didnt even offer an apology. your sadly mistaken if you think i was going to keep my mouth shut about my experience with your low rent business.

I am not Rev1.

I replied to all of your messages. What do you want? Or are you just looking to talk trash?

Wow...this has tuned into a great thread. Sorry guys

Keith
02-29-2004, 11:46 AM
There is a LOT of ways to make parts fit on a jeep. All kinds of tricks to move body parts around to make gaps and other things look good. Maybe you just need to fool around with them a bit. Loosen the upper grill support bars, the lower center mount. Bolt the fens up to the fire wall, then the grill. See how well the hood lays on the grill. You can always loosen the the hood hinges and slide it around a bit. You would be suprised how moving something one way will affect how something else fits another part.

Keith
02-29-2004, 11:46 AM
Here is how my new set fit:D

Keith
02-29-2004, 11:51 AM
2

Keith
02-29-2004, 11:53 AM
3

upinit
02-29-2004, 05:58 PM
Very nice. Doesthe new set use the stock bolt patterns?

Keith
02-29-2004, 07:48 PM
cant use the upper or the lower holes on the firewall cuz the tubes cover them. So, I drill and tap new upper holes just below the upper tube at the firewall. On the grill, you cant use the upper hole either. I use the hole just under the tube. You have to pull the headlamp and put a nut nut on the backside. Makes it easier to tighten if you use a rectangular nut like is used to hold a hardtop on.

upinit
02-29-2004, 10:45 PM
So, do you paint and install these as well as part of the price? I run an 84 cj 7.

sandusk
03-01-2004, 12:44 AM
Originally posted by Keith
There is a LOT of ways to make parts fit on a jeep. All kinds of tricks to move body parts around to make gaps and other things look good. Maybe you just need to fool around with them a bit. Loosen the upper grill support bars, the lower center mount. Bolt the fens up to the fire wall, then the grill. See how well the hood lays on the grill. You can always loosen the the hood hinges and slide it around a bit. You would be suprised how moving something one way will affect how something else fits another part.

no, one was considerably longer then the other. i ended up trashing one and using the other to make the second one.

Keith
03-01-2004, 12:10 PM
CA_YJ said they were built on a rig a couple of years ago. That could explaine why one was longer, the rig may have had the grill twisted making one side further from the firewall. Rev1 would have to use jigs to make any large number of fenders. If it was a jigged fender build, then they would have all kinds of folks complaining of the same thing. I have not seen that on this BB.

Latitude_38
03-01-2004, 01:49 PM
Just build them yourself then if your shit is tweeked your fenders are built for it not having to rely on anyone else. serves you right that they dont fit.

BigWave
03-01-2004, 03:02 PM
I've got a set of Rev1's on my YJ and they are sweet. Someone step up and I can e-mail a few pics of my rig. They fit great, look great and are strong as hell. After we put them on, we had a guy standing on each fender jumping up and down with 0 deflection in the fenders.

BigWave
03-01-2004, 03:11 PM
Hey Keith,

I sent the pics your way.

Erik D_lux
03-01-2004, 04:13 PM
Originally posted by BigWave
Someone step up and I can e-mail a few pics of my rig.

:rolleyes: How about you "step up"? Cheep fawker

sandusk
03-01-2004, 11:59 PM
Originally posted by Latitude_38
Just build them yourself then if your shit is tweeked your fenders are built for it not having to rely on anyone else. serves you right that they dont fit.

STFU, i dont have a tube bender. making the second one required me driving all over hell to use someone elses tube bender.

Latitude_38
03-02-2004, 01:26 AM
Originally posted by sandusk


STFU, i dont have a tube bender. making the second one required me driving all over hell to use someone elses tube bender.

well then I guess times are tough:D

What I have done in the past because I dont have a bender either, I just figure out what bends I need and have some shop make all the bends for me It cost me like $15 a bend at Daves off-road. The real shitty part is the sheet metal work involved I guess it helps having someone you know with a sheet metal shop also.
-Otto

Keith
03-02-2004, 01:49 PM
Originally posted by Latitude_38


well then I guess times are tough:D

What I have done in the past because I dont have a bender either, I just figure out what bends I need and have some shop make all the bends for me It cost me like $15 a bend at Daves off-road. The real shitty part is the sheet metal work involved I guess it helps having someone you know with a sheet metal shop also.
-Otto Damn.... 15 a bend:eek:
And yep, the shittiest part is doing the sheet metal work.....:(

DSZ71
03-18-2004, 08:32 AM
Originally posted by Latitude_38


like $15 a bend -Otto

Hey I have a bender, you just gave me a great idea....thanks! And BTW, here is my $0.02 on this subject. I am planning on also fabbing up a set of the tube fenders for my CJ Fiver here soon. What I did is just took all the pictures from this thread and the rest I could find on the search button and saved them for design purposes. There are a lot of great designs out there that people have come up with, whether it was for their own rig or for sale. I personally like to try and fab up my own stuff, I get more satisfaction out of it that way, more pride in my Jeep. But not all of us have the tools or the basic skills to do so, and its their choice to buy. If a job is too big for me to do, then I either pay someone else to do it for me or buy a pre-fabbed product. If I have a custom fabricator do it, I ask to help, cause I want to learn more skills for the future. To each his own.

Benzz0
03-18-2004, 01:15 PM
Any fabrication shops out here on the east coast or central time zone offer the CJ tube fenders?!?!??!

This sucks - I have yet to find a "PBB" equivilant over here - any ideas?

$500 here $450 there - :wtf: these damn things made of gold or something or is the Chinese dam project driving up steel costs this high? :flipoff2: