ok-I've got the rear axle shafts pulled with the brake drum assembley. Do i really need to have a press to get the axle shaft out of the drum? Cause i don't have one.:flipoff2: So is there any other way? Thanks

Are you trying to seperate the drum from the shaft, or are you trying to remove the entire brake assembly? Replacing a bearing?

Reason I'm asking is you shouldn't need a press to pull the drums, and I don't know how you'd get any grip on the drum anyways without destroying the backing plate. Just don't know wtf you're trying to do.... :confused:

just spin the sper and loosen the brake pads and the drum will come of it is not conectid to the axel:smokin: :beer:

i'm trying to get the entire brake assembly off of the axle shaft. I don't need to replace the bearings, just takin it all apart for spares and stuff.

Still gotta press the bearings off if you want to do that. If you aren't interested in keeping the bearings you can tear them apart and then carefully cut off the inner race. Some people have had luck with holding the assembly by the backingplate and banging the end of the shaft on the ground but it's never worked for me.

This page has some info on getting the bearing off:
http://www.off-road.com/toyota/tech/rearaxleseal/index.html

If your talking about taking a rear axle for a spare, what your gonna need to do it get a shaft with a good bearing on it, wether you have to get a good one pressed on or whatever, and carry that with you. To make it even easier you should carry one with full set of new brakes, then all you would have to do to replace a spare would be to unbolt those four bolts and the brake line and slide in and out a new shaft.

But, to specifically answer your shaft, that backing plate that all the brake shoes and all is connected on there is held on by a shaft that has to be pressed off. So if your thinking about taking a shaft as a spare, it is gonna have to have that backing plate on it to be of any use, unless you have a press on your rig:)

Good luck, hope I made sense...

Some axles sleeves are on harder than others. Sometimes you must press them off but about 1/2 the time you can pick the shaft up by the backing plate about one foot above the ground and drop it down on the floor. Do this a couple of times and the whole thing slides apart slick as snot!

belive it or not the method chris described works great. you may need to slam it on the concreat really hard to get it to come off but it will not hurt the splines. just be sure you remove the c-clip that holds the bearing in place befor you start.

Originally posted by TyTy
To make it even easier you should carry one with full set of new brakes, Why??

I carry one side with the bearing installed in the 4 bolt retainer, no backing plate, brakes or any of that. I also carry a plug for the brake line. That way I can get off the trail with three brakes. :D:D:D:D. The backing plate assembly takes up too much room.

Chris's method is the way I do it, works every time, wear good leather gloves.

Originally posted by camo
you may need to slam it on the concreat really hard to get it to come off but it will not hurt the splines.
You should have been there when I was trying it, nearly put a hole in the garage floor! :eek: And yes, I removed the snapring first. :flipoff2: Eventually had to cut off the retainer and tried again, still no go. Gutted the bearing and cut almost all the way through the inner race with a grinder, split it with a chisel, and then still had to pound the snot out of it to get it off.

Here is a picture of the C clip being removed....

oh hell yeah!! that is slick chris, worked perfently, thanks.

Originally posted by ryanwhit
oh hell yeah!! that is slick chris, worked perfently, thanks.

So what are ya up to now? how's it wheeling? Any pics?

That's kewl... :cool: I have never heard that before. To add to the question...
1)As a for a spare, will (1)axle w/new bearing installed work for either side? I can't see why not??
2) after you pop the old stuff apart, what do you have to do to set the new spare?

Reason I ask is...I haven't ripped the rear-end down that far yet, but I'm just trying to picture the process.

thanks
-jerry-

Originally posted by 89YotaRunner
That's kewl... :cool: I have never heard that before. To add to the question...
1)As a for a spare, will (1)axle w/new bearing installed work for either side? I can't see why not??
2) after you pop the old stuff apart, what do you have to do to set the new spare?

Reason I ask is...I haven't ripped the rear-end down that far yet, but I'm just trying to picture the process.

thanks
-jerry- 1) Yes

2) plug brake line, slide in new shaft, tighten 4 bolts, install wheel :D:D:D:D.

Originally posted by bertha


So what are ya up to now? how's it wheeling? Any pics?

whats up sam? I just bought '85 f/r axles from a guy on wed. I've taken them apart and using the front for spares and selling the rest. $250 for the pair is'nt too bad, i'll have spare hubs, birfs, spindles, and sell the rest and make it back. Plus, the rear diff was welded so thats going in the front. no pics of it wheelin, (i've only been able to go twice), but my gf got a digi cam for Christmas, so hopefully i'll have some soon. But it wheels awesome! I got some tough classes this semester, so i won't be able to go too much. But i think i see a spring break trip to tellico in my future:) :)

Originally posted by Chris Geiger
Some axles sleeves are on harder than others. Sometimes you must press them off but about 1/2 the time you can pick the shaft up by the backing plate about one foot above the ground and drop it down on the floor. Do this a couple of times and the whole thing slides apart slick as snot!

Nice tip.... :D You guys ever get that T-Case e-brake sorted out for a Taco :question:


:usa:

Originally posted by Chris Geiger
Some axles sleeves are on harder than others. Sometimes you must press them off but about 1/2 the time you can pick the shaft up by the backing plate about one foot above the ground and drop it down on the floor. Do this a couple of times and the whole thing slides apart slick as snot!

This has worked on 3 different axles (6 shafts/bearings) I've tried it on. I put a piece of masonite on the ground to keep from chipping up the concrete and/or hurting the axle splines. One of them was a real PITA and had to be held above our heads and slammed down as hard as possible (many times) to get the bearings off... but it still worked! :D
BTW, leave all the brake parts (minus drum) attatched for more weight and therefore hammering force against the bearing.

Also, if you just want to remove the backing plate, you could probably just remove the brake parts, knock the studs out, and then sawsall the backing plate in half to get it off...
That would be better for the bearings too if you're going to reuse them. :)

Originally posted by Chris Geiger
Some axles sleeves are on harder than others. Sometimes you must press them off but about 1/2 the time you can pick the shaft up by the backing plate about one foot above the ground and drop it down on the floor. Do this a couple of times and the whole thing slides apart slick as snot!

I just did this and it did work great, except I damaged my garage floor! :mad: :mad: Damn cheapshit construction around here. building codes are a whole new concept in Alabama.

Thanks for the tip, Chris. Now how about the secret method for getting the bearing and sleeve back on the axle shaft??!?

Find a piece of pipe or tube big enough to fit over the axle shaft but not bigger than the spacer and use it as a hammer and pound them on. Super easy. :)

I use a scrap piece of 2x3" 3/16" wall tube and pound on that with a bigger chunk of tube I have laying around as my "hammer" and it works great.

Originally posted by ErikB
Find a piece of pipe or tube big enough to fit over the axle shaft but not bigger than the spacer and use it as a hammer and pound them on. Super easy. :)

I use a scrap piece of 2x3" 3/16" wall tube and pound on that with a bigger chunk of tube I have laying around as my "hammer" and it works great. This is why I don't pay for press service at the machine shop. Had my local Lemoore-on machinist swap the bearing out for me, walked in the shop and he's pounding the bearing in with a chunk of pipe. Make sure your pipe size is the same as the inner race.

Does Chris Gieger walk around with a camera around his neck? The guy has pictures of everything.:D

Originally posted by Todd
Had my local Lemoore-on machinist swap the bearing out for me, walked in the shop and he's pounding the bearing in with a chunk of pipe.

LOL, I must be a machinist then! :rasta: :D

Originally posted by ErikB


LOL, I must be a machinist then! :rasta: :D

When you use your drill press and a 4" angle grinder to machine a part and it works, then you are a machinist !!! Hell Erik look at your runner and how much your SAS cost, you have to be a machinist:D :cool: :cool: :usa:

how about getting the bearing retainer flange separated from the backing plate once it's pulled off the shaft? i took out the 4 studs but can't get it to separate. im going to disks so i don't need the plate anymore.

Originally posted by poppycock
how about getting the bearing retainer flange separated from the backing plate once it's pulled off the shaft? i took out the 4 studs but can't get it to separate. im going to disks so i don't need the plate anymore. Support the backing plate in a vice or on a couple of blocks of wood and drive the flange out. Maybe soak it with some Liquid wrench before you start, they get rusted in.