i got this info,
"1946-1972 - Corporate "drop out" style (similar to a Ford 9"). 4.10, 4.57, 5.14 ratios available. Full floating. 8 lug."
out of the pirate bible.
i have an axle like this laying around, that i cant find parts for, it is an eaton rearend.
i saw somewhere a post about using 10.5" 14 bolt carriers, lockers, gears, and shafts in this axle and it working.
will it?

It does work but it is not a direct bolt in deal. I have a buddie that did it. Best I remember he used the eaton carrier with a 14 bolt detroit and the 14 bolt axles, I think he had to shorten one or both ot the axles a little, I'll see him Tuesday and will ask him. Maybe someone else has done this too. This conversion makes this axle significantly stronger because of the increased spline count. A lot of guy call eatons "banjos".

What is the gear ratio on the one you have? If you have the 5.14's and want something higher , i have a 4.57 set that ill trade for the 5.14's. Let me know if youre interested.

SEEJAY7 is right as far as i remember... Use the stock carrier, 14 bolt locker and 14 bolt shafts. I dont remember hearing about anyone having to shorten the axle shafts though. Also, do a search for Scott@rockstomper , you will find some posts on the eaton.. he knows more about them than most people.

You might want to try posting this in General 4x4 , you will get a better response.

BTW Eaton parts come up fairly regularly on ebay. Not to say that you shouldn't bling that shit out and create a Rockstomper-esque hybrid with D27 clearance (or whatever), but if it's JUST a locker you're after, check eBay.

Bob

thanks for the help, Azzy, ill pull the cover sometime this week and get the ratio, i just havent had time to play with this thing yet.
i dont think ill use it in my Jeep, even though it does have better clearance than my 60 :p

No problem man. Sent ya an email about the eaton.

Sorry it took so long to get back to you on this deal, Here it is: You have to use the axles out of a cab chassis truck. Those axles are a direct bolt in. You can use any of the other 14 bolt axles also but you will have to machine a spacer for the outside of the hub because the axle will bottom out in the detroit before it is flush on the hub

thanks seejay7.

Sorry to bring this thread back from the dead, but I'd rather do this then start a new lame post.

If you swap in the detroit from a 14 bolt can you also use the carrier bearings from the 14 bolt as well, or are you still stuck in using thoes illusive elliptical bearings I hear everyone bad mouth the eaton for having.

If the answer is you need to use the eatons bearings still....does anyone have a decent source for these?

You will still be using the eaton carrier and carrier bearings... the 14 bolt detroit is bolted in between the 2 piece carrier.

Do the HO52 and HO72 use the same carrier bearings?

Sorry it took so long to get back to you on this deal, Here it is: You have to use the axles out of a cab chassis truck. Those axles are a direct bolt in. You can use any of the other 14 bolt axles also but you will have to machine a spacer for the outside of the hub because the axle will bottom out in the detroit before it is flush on the hub



how do u figure???? C+C axles are the same lenght as a normal 14bolt, he only thing different is the hubs....the only thing i could see needing some kind of spacer is the van 14bt, they are wider

Dually pickup 14B is also wider.

It is correct that the C&C and SRW 14 bolt axles are the same length.

i have a eaton 14bolt hybrid. yes the C&C dually shafts and the SRW 14bolt shafts are the same. van and standard truck dually rears have longer shafts. i ran a 14bolt before so when i swapped i saved all of my parts. i just swapped the side gears in teh eaton with 14bolt side gears and installed the shafts. no spacers needed. the internals of the diff it's self are the same as a 14bolt meaning side and spider gears and of coarse shaft length is the same if you use the C&C or SRW 14bolt shafts. everything else is different. i have liked the eaton much better than the 14bolt. the increased ground clearance is definitely noticeable. i did not fully shave my 14bolt though. i only ground the lip off of it. anyway here are some pic's if it when i was swapping it and coils in my rig.
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=141160&stc=1

I really like the option of the Eaton, I know a couple people setting the up under their rigs, but no one I know has really run one hard. Im right near Scott and am gonna run a couple thing by him. But my main concern is the strength of the housing. I have picked on of these up by myself and they dont seem all that heavy. Whats the thickness on average and how do they hold up to abuse. I see in that pic that you dont have it trussed, except for the tube between the mounts. Is this even a problem?

I really like the option of the Eaton, I know a couple people setting the up under their rigs, but no one I know has really run one hard. Im right near Scott and am gonna run a couple thing by him. But my main concern is the strength of the housing. I have picked on of these up by myself and they dont seem all that heavy. Whats the thickness on average and how do they hold up to abuse. I see in that pic that you dont have it trussed, except for the tube between the mounts. Is this even a problem?


the pic is an "in progress" pic but i did not truss it. i did add gussets to the link mounts. these rears were used under 1ton trucks, a dually in my case. if they are used for that application i really doubt i need to truss it for use in my buggy. the pinion is almost 2" in diameter so that too will take a beating. i have only been running mine since this summer but i have beaten on since then. no issues. i run 42" swampers and i do like the skinny pedal. i broke a 14bolt shaft back when i was running a 14bolt and i still feel the shafts are the weak link with an eaton.

How wide are the eatons WMS to WMS? Are they the same as the the C&C at 63" or are they like an SWR at 67"?

there are different width eatons like thee are different width 14's. i have been told that the width is made up in the hubs like the SRW 14's and hte C&C 14's. anyway mine is 63" wide and all of the ones i found in the junk yard i got mine from were 63" wide. all were duallys.