Just out of curious, do you use a sway bar link w/ disco's, Currie anti rock or nope ?

Thanks!
YEOW!

what the hell is a sway bar??? whatever it is my heep aint got one:flipoff2: :flipoff2:

I've got ghetto discos, would love to have an antirock

60's

Anybody ever make a cheep anti rock style bar?

:cool:

How would you make the bar itself ?

The spring content and metal type would be a problem.

The side bars don't look to difficult but that bars.

Later,

solid piece of Chromo with long arms on either end attached to the axle for an anti-rock.

a balanced suspension needs none! if your DD-ing than maybe a disco, which is still equivalent to none off-road. the anti-rock is good for two things, band-aiding a poorly designed suspension of fine-fine tuning a well engineered custom comp susp...

Originally posted by HybridPOS
solid piece of Chromo with long arms on either end attached to the axle for an anti-rock.

I'd be interested to see a solid piece of Chromo twist without snapping.

If this gets built PLEASE get pics of it both in the buiild stage and working off road.

Thanks,

Originally posted by P&T Jeeps
a balanced suspension needs none! if your DD-ing than maybe a disco, which is still equivalent to none off-road. the anti-rock is good for two things, band-aiding a poorly designed suspension of fine-fine tuning a well engineered custom comp susp...

doesnt this statement need to be qualified by what type of suspension you have? Coil-over, coil, or leaf?

Originally posted by ibrocun

doesnt this statement need to be qualified by what type of suspension you have? Coil-over, coil, or leaf?

Leaves + ANTI-Swaybars = :rainbow:

Originally posted by NnF


I'd be interested to see a solid piece of Chromo twist without snapping.

If this gets built PLEASE get pics of it both in the buiild stage and working off road.

Thanks,
I don't need one, so I'm not building one. I know someone that will be though. Currie uses heat treated 4130. I don't see the chromo solid stock snapping.

Originally posted by ibrocun
doesnt this statement need to be qualified by what type of suspension you have? Coil-over, coil, or leaf?

no, not at all. a well-built balanced susp is a well-built balanced susp regardless of the means you use to get there...

Originally posted by HybridPOS
solid piece of Chromo with long arms on either end attached to the axle for an anti-rock.

Are you serious? :confused: This same thing has been discussed countless times. Do you all not get stcok-car catalogs? If not you are missing out. You can buy everything you need to build a swaybar in pieces for less than currie charges. But as someone else said, either build your suspension right or quit being a pussy.:rolleyes:

Well, I thought I'd try to run the stock sway bar with my new high steering and before I hit the rocks it had awesome road manners. Then After bashing the crap out of them and bending the gay little brackets back into shape I finally said screw it. I bought 9000's and set them up 3/4 the way up. Now the Jeep Feels stable enough I'm comfortable. I'd still feel more safe with a front sway bar, but I've driven it enough to not remember the difference.

Originally posted by tealj2
Well, I thought I'd try to run the stock sway bar with my new high steering and before I hit the rocks it had awesome road manners. Then After bashing the crap out of them and bending the gay little brackets back into shape I finally said screw it. I bought 9000's and set them up 3/4 the way up. Now the Jeep Feels stable enough I'm comfortable. I'd still feel more safe with a front sway bar, but I've driven it enough to not remember the difference.

How much lift do you have on that thing?

Originally posted by P&T Jeeps
a balanced suspension needs none! if your DD-ing than maybe a disco, which is still equivalent to none off-road. the anti-rock is good for two things, band-aiding a poorly designed suspension of fine-fine tuning a well engineered custom comp susp...


so you are telling me that a perfectly balanced suspension sitting on an extremely offcamber obstacle is just going to stay balanced. :rolleyes:

people run them for a reason. I cant think of how many $50K buggies I've seen keep all tires on the ground, and the body on the ground right beside them. In many instances, regardless of suspension balance (strictly coils), you need something to keep articulation forced, not accidental.

Originally posted by hightechredneck


How much lift do you have on that thing?
5.5" RE coils 2"pucks

I kind of agree with the poster about the body roll issue. My rig seemed to have a ton of body roll which was all but eliminated with the addition for an antirock in the fronnt

I run none and have no problems on the road with my TJ

JKS disco's here. Didn't want to shell out the money to replace them with the AR, since this set up works for me :)

Originally posted by BigBlueWrangler
so you are telling me that a perfectly balanced suspension sitting on an extremely offcamber obstacle is just going to stay balanced. :rolleyes:

and your telling me that a perfectly balanced suspension sitting on an extremely offcamber obstacle W/ A SWAYBAR is just going to stay balanced? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

is this swaybar hydraulic or something? come on; if your off-camber, your off-camber. period. if your going to argue the point, pick a situation that can actually be debated...

Originally posted by BigBlueWrangler



so you are telling me that a perfectly balanced suspension sitting on an extremely offcamber obstacle is just going to stay balanced. :rolleyes:

people run them for a reason. I cant think of how many $50K buggies I've seen keep all tires on the ground, and the body on the ground right beside them. In many instances, regardless of suspension balance (strictly coils), you need something to keep articulation forced, not accidental.

Agreed....next you'll hear that you need stiffer shocks though :rolleyes:

Originally posted by BigBlueWrangler



so you are telling me that a perfectly balanced suspension sitting on an extremely offcamber obstacle is just going to stay balanced. :rolleyes:

people run them for a reason. I cant think of how many $50K buggies I've seen keep all tires on the ground, and the body on the ground right beside them. In many instances, regardless of suspension balance (strictly coils), you need something to keep articulation forced, not accidental.

Have you ever heard of IC height, RC, etc.? You can't tune these things with a leaf suspension but you can with links. And yes these help with off camber situations. But you're whole statement is bs, no suspension with or without swaybars will keep you "balanced" when on a sidehill.:rolleyes:

With my old RE lift, disconnected front and rear and stock width axles, Jeep did sway alot.

Once I went to full width with same set-up, it helped ALOT

And now with new 4-link set-up it is perfect. Offcamber feels more stable.

I agree with the statement that a properly built suspension doesnt need anything.

Originally posted by Drunk Guy
I run none and have no problems on the road with my TJ

I think maybe your tires are holding you down! I have a 01 TJ with a 4" lift and 33's, and its not a very stable ride. I have the Currie kit, but I haven't installed it yet.

Originally posted by P&T Jeeps
a balanced suspension needs none! if your DD-ing than maybe a disco, which is still equivalent to none off-road. the anti-rock is good for two things, band-aiding a poorly designed suspension of fine-fine tuning a well engineered custom comp susp...

Whatever. I see you've added to your post the part about comp buggies. There is nothing well engineered here, swaybars are a tuning tool, period. There are a lot of advantages and your missing them. The comp guys run them for a reason, they work.

:flipoff2:

I didn't "add that" as it was what I originally said and still believe. that said, I have always respected your work & opinions and am sure there is a place for SB's somewhere but it's not on my rig. I honestly believe if you do your homework; match spring rates w/ shock valving, and properly design an effective, balanced suspension there is no need for them.

I do acknowledge that they are a tuning too, especially to the comp guys, (although I see more comp rigs w/o them than w/ them) but most of them are used as band-aids to crap suspensions by the JU world, IMO. :D

What people use them for and what they are might be two different things. Swaybars will work well on your "well engineered suspensions" too, you should try one, it might change your mind. Peace.

CJ

Just to stir this pot...

What are ya'll running on the rear of coil suspensions, ie. TJ's.

When I went to long arms I left the rear sway bar off the rear axle. I had lorts of body roll and my TJ would not keep the front tires on the ground. This is disco'd in the front with limiting straps all around. I admitt I have not matched shock valving to spring rate, Haven't looked at do that and not sure that is where I want to spend my money just yet.

Put the rear sway bar back on and removed the front limiting straps; it was a new TJ. Body roll stopped, body oscillations from torque shifting from one side to the other was stopped. Today I am a believer in a rear sway bar.

I am currently looking at the Currie rear swaybar kit but will have to look at a few installs first

97 TJ 4.0, rear 8.8, RE 5.5 springs, Clayton Longarm w/ triangulated rear, DT3000 shocks, 35x12.50 BFG MT's, RE adjustable track bar front, etc.

I'll be in the pool when the flames begin.

Our's is an '88 YJ with leaves front and rear. We've left off the "tracking Bars", ( not the best idea ) but, one thing I'm stressing to my Son is the "Sway Bar' has to be connected 'on road' and 'DISCONECTED' off. The higher you lift, the more unstable it is, even with a "balanced suspension", whatever that is? Terry