MdntRdr
01-04-2002, 10:50 PM
Jack (http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=36397)
Can one of these things be mounted parallel to the floor and hooked up to a Mod 3 and work?
If it would fit on there, then I dont see why it wouldnt.
Shaker
01-05-2002, 08:09 AM
pretty sure it would be too long to start the bend at zero......looking at my JD2......
MdntRdr
01-05-2002, 06:20 PM
Okay. Since I don't have my bender put together, I could be speaking out of my butt on this. Why do you think it would be too long? In speaking with ROKTOY and looking at his setup, this jack appears to be about the same closed length as his cylinder on his bender. The top of his sawhorse mount is 36" long. Is there something I'm missing?
I dunno... but once I get mine, and I can see how it all works.. I should have a better grasp on cylinder specifics that will work :)
MdntRdr
01-05-2002, 07:02 PM
If I don't get a definate answer, I'll go ahead and buy one of these jacks and build the whole setup and try it out. Hopefully it will work. My father-in-law said he has one sitting in his garage, I'll have to go check that out. I'm just trying to get this thing setup up cheap as possible since I can't set it up manually. Hopefully I will be sucessful in my quest.
Station
01-05-2002, 08:21 PM
Why do I not hear of anybody using the ram and hand pump from an engine hoist? Would it not be strong enough? Or is everyone just so lazy that they would rather push a button/step on a pedal than do a little pumping?
Sean
MdntRdr
01-05-2002, 08:55 PM
Originally posted by Station
Why do I not hear of anybody using the ram and hand pump from an engine hoist? Would it not be strong enough? Or is everyone just so lazy that they would rather push a button/step on a pedal than do a little pumping?
That's what I've actually been thinking about doing. The only thing I'm worried about is that the pump I found has 1/4" ports and all the rams I've looked at have either 3/8" or 1/2" ports and I'm just wondering if there's gonna be a loss of power between the two different sizes.
Do those rams work horrizontal? I have only seen them in vertical applications.
Patman
01-07-2002, 10:55 AM
While I definatley see the advantage of they hydraulic set up. After personally bending thousands of feet of tube by hand, I don't see how in a limited use, anyone would "NEED" hydro. Plus. the money you spend for hydro hardware, would pay for a couple of dies.
As far as the Jack handpump idea. It would work, but how long do you want to pump that handle!!? I can make a 180* bend in 2".120" wall DOM in about 2 minutes by hand, do the math and see how many pumps it would take, my guess would be way over 100. My arms get tired just thinking about that.
I agree Pat.
I guess this would be for people who don't want to drill holes in their floor or who want a somewhat portable tool.
Originally posted by Eric
I agree Pat.
I guess this would be for people who don't want to drill holes in their floor or who want a somewhat portable tool.
Portability is the main reason I want hydro. It's pretty easy to bend with a long handle anyway. It'd also be easier to see where you are in your bend
tsm1mt
01-07-2002, 12:28 PM
Originally posted by MdntRdr
Jack (http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=36397)
Can one of these things be mounted parallel to the floor and hooked up to a Mod 3 and work?
Why not a 10T PortaPower? I think I paid $160-ish for mine, new..
'course, I still haven't bought the JD2 to go with it..
I "need" to go hydraulic since I plumbed my floor with poly-pipe for the radiant heat. :D
MdntRdr
01-07-2002, 02:03 PM
Originally posted by tsm1mt
Why not a 10T PortaPower? I think I paid $160-ish for mine, new..
'course, I still haven't bought the JD2 to go with it..
I "need" to go hydraulic since I plumbed my floor with poly-pipe for the radiant heat. :D
When I look at the cylinders that come with these things, doesn't look like they have the appropriate hook-ups on each side to mount to a stand such as ROKTOY's. I'm I wrong?