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Why can I not post attachements? How do I post pictures? I could do this some time ago but now can not. I was going to post pictures of shaved and braked axles Rockwells.

Of course I know how everyone hates talking about Rockwells!

Todd

Upload them to another site and post them from there. You just can't upload to the POR servers and post.

J. J.

You need the little red ster next to your name. read the announcement at the the top of this BB

Upload them over at ORC, that's what I do.

I finally got my rockwells and have taken the rear axle apart. I couldn't find a wheel bearing socket big enough to get the hubs off so I can't pull the brakes off yet.

Got a question, for you all running rear non-steer axles, do you just live with the pinion not being centered? My pumpkin itself is centered so of course the pinion is offset thanks to the diff.

Everything on these axles is huge! The more I get into them the more I like them. I can post some pictures of the components if anyone wants to see.

CJ

Yes, you just run it offset

yannajj,

Cool, thanks...I run a center output atlas(I guess i could offset it an inch or two when I make the motor mounts)....

I'm guessing that since the driveshaft ends up being so flat that the side offset doesn't create too many compound angles? People don't run into any problems with them?

CJ

Yea, post the pics CJ! I was going to go with the RW's before I decided on the 60's...What made you decide to go with the RW's? Are you keeping the TJ?

--D

Hey Rockrover,

I'll post some pics, I've been taking a few....I'm definately keeping the TJ. I decided to build a new frame to change the suspension around a bit. I wanted to do some things that the factory frame got in the way of doing. I'm getting rid of pretty much everything TJ and just re-using the body. I'll have a flat dash like the CJ's and stuff like that.

I'm selling my 60's because I decided since I'm building the new frame, if I want to do different axles I better do it now to minimize work.

CJ

Here some pics of my rear axle....
http://admotorsports.com/jeep.org/cjl-tj/01-06-02/P1010001s.JPG http://admotorsports.com/jeep.org/cjl-tj/01-06-02/P1010002s.JPG http://admotorsports.com/jeep.org/cjl-tj/01-06-02/P1010011s.JPG http://admotorsports.com/jeep.org/cjl-tj/01-06-02/P1010017s.JPG
If you want to view more and fullsize pictures:
http://admotorsports.com/jeep.org/cjl-tj/01-06-02/

Here are some more..rear hubs flipped in vs flipped out, rotella joint(I think that is it, maybe bendix, forget) vs spicer u-joint kind, and the rockwell shafts next to 35spline stub/inner 60 shafts.
http://admotorsports.com/jeep.org/cjl-tj/01-06-02/clark's/P1010014s.JPG http://admotorsports.com/jeep.org/cjl-tj/01-06-02/clark's/P1010015s.JPG http://admotorsports.com/jeep.org/cjl-tj/01-06-02/clark's/P1010026s.JPG http://admotorsports.com/jeep.org/cjl-tj/01-06-02/clark's/P1010030s.JPG

There needs to be more rockwell info/pics out there.

I emailed them out so maybe they will get posted soon.

Todd - you can email them to me too, I should be able to get them up today and posted for you :)

How do you get the backing plate off the housing? I see the round pattern of round headed stud looking things...any help?

To remove the backing plate on a rear axle use a torch and a punch.Those babies are pain to get off..by the way as for the rear pinion being offset. You can take the center out and spin it 180 degrees which will then place the pinion dead center. To do this you must redrill the holes in the center section or drill new holes in the housing and thread them..the first option is easiest..You can shave these guys pretty good to.I cut at least an inch and half out of the bottom of mine.Hope this helps.:D

Hey onetonwillysands10,

Man these things are tough. do you just get the area around them real hot and then drive them out? I might drill them out...not having any luck so far.

As far as the pinion being centered. My pumpkin itself is centered, so the diff is offset to one side. If I spin it around, I think it will just be the same offset to the other side...any ideas?

did u sell all ur dana 60 stuff? I got a TJ.... they would fit mine just fine Im sure!

No I've still got the 60's....they can easily be made to work in a TJ :P...you should buy them.

I emailed u at the address listed here at POR about selling the 60's set up.

What the hell kinda engine and tires are you running in a heep that the d60's couldn't handle?
It sounds pretty rediculous to me, but I won't say that until I know what you're running

Im4yotas,

I'm running a strong 350 with 42" TSLs, nv4500 and atlas 2. It isn't so much that the 60's couldn't handle it...

I wish I had run these first and never fooled with 60's.

You can not center the rear pinion unless you actually cut one shaft and one side of the housing down shorter. It will always be offset by about 5 inches even if you turn it 90 or 180 or 270 or 360 or 450 etc. The axle shafts are equal length.

A front axle that has been turned 180 will be within 1 inch of dead center.

Onetonwillis, I am curious what you are building with rockwells. I know your current stuff is Dana.

Pictures sent to DRM. Maybe they will get posted soon.

Here are the pictures that BMSN123 wanted to post, they look good...

Here's another

CJ Lagos - here are some bigger versions (for those who want more detail)

http://www.tennessee4x4.com/toyota/images/other/mvc-859f-s.jpg

http://www.tennessee4x4.com/toyota/images/other/mvc-859f.jpg


http://www.tennessee4x4.com/toyota/images/other/mvc-879f-s.jpg

http://www.tennessee4x4.com/toyota/images/other/mvc-879f.jpg



Man, that is some serious CLEARANCE :eek:

:eek: :eek: WOW!!! Talk about shaving an axle.. hehehe.. How much of that beast was chopped off? and what is it going in?

Originally posted by Rockbuggy
[BHow much of that beast was chopped off? [/B]

Here is a side by side that should show you:

http://admotorsports.com/jeep.org/cjl-tj/1-06-02/P1010001s.JPG http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?s=&postid=227647

1-1/2 more clearance (.25" less ground clearance than a dana 44)

Going under a 79 IH Scout - Not mine though

Now that's making good use of a rockwell.

Originally posted by CJ Lagos
Hey onetonwillysands10,

Man these things are tough. do you just get the area around them real hot and then drive them out? I might drill them out...not having any luck so far.

As far as the pinion being centered. My pumpkin itself is centered, so the diff is offset to one side. If I spin it around, I think it will just be the same offset to the other side...any ideas?

Yea those sons-a-b^%$#@% are a pain.I took a torch and cut the head off one side.I then took a hammer(bigger the better) and a punch and knocked them out..As for centering...I forgot to mention about shortening one side to get it dead center...my bad...

SWEET!!:eek: did you have to change R&P to shave that much off??? and did that shve job make of any oiling problems?

Finally figured out what needed to be done. This is the first real thing I don't like about these rockwells...damn that's a lot of annoying work.

when you shaved that did you put a drain plug back in...also does fluid sit in the tubes ?????Thanks Mike

ok i went back i see the drain plug on the side of the square hanging down.....

how about the fluid

Mike

hey cjlagos
if you don't want to shorten the tube you could run an lt-230 transfer case from a landrover
it's just as burly as an atlas, aluminum, 3.3 low range and offset to the passenger side. also I know a guy working on a plug in over and under drive for it so you could have all the gearing you need
but of course you would have to sell the atlas and I don't know where you would find a buyer for that thing:D

Hey CJ, why did you torch out the rivets???
You can just torch all the way down to the housing, and get a few more inches of clearance...

Good Luck...

Hey elf,

I thought about just cutting that whole flange off but decided not to. It wasn't as bad as I thought once I got the hang of it, probably took 30-45 minutes for the 2nd side. My 15x10 wheels will actually put that flange inside the wheel so it shouldn't hurt things ground clearance wise.

CJ

Gotcha CJ, i forgot you were running the hubs flipped in...
on mine, those flanges are prime targets for rocks...
Laters-

What widths are available from stock Rockwells ?

std hubs and hubs flipped ?

Hubs flipped in is about 69"

CJ

so what outside width with what tire/rim combo are you expecting ?

Originally posted by CJ Lagos
Hubs flipped in is about 69"

CJ

Not that it's a big difference, but Boyce lists them as 72" w/the hubs flipped.

J. J.