Hello all

I have a 77 fj40 with shackle reversal and 4 inch springs front and back, back with extended shackles to make her level.

Was on a trail last weekend and boy she sure feels tippy at slow rock crawlin speeds, I have 35 inch BFG mudds and 8 inch black steel wheels with 3 3/4 correct off set, I thought if I went to a 10 inch wheel it might help with my footprint a little, went to Discount tire and they said they could not get a 10 with the correct 3.5 or even a 3 3/4. What gives????

Any Ideas, and I do not want to use spacers, things get werd, I just want the correct wheel!

TLCA # 13071
Thank you
Seth Jacobsen

They are idiots... it's VERY common to have a 15x10 with 3.5 or 3.75" BS, that's what you normally find...

BTW, nothing wrong with bolt-on spacers, many of us run them.

Originally posted by exploren
Hello all

I have a 77 fj40 with shackle reversal and 4 inch springs front and back, back with extended shackles to make her level.

Was on a trail last weekend and boy she sure feels tippy at slow rock crawlin speeds, I have 35 inch BFG mudds and 8 inch black steel wheels with 3 3/4 correct off set, I thought if I went to a 10 inch wheel it might help with my footprint a little, went to Discount tire and they said they could not get a 10 with the correct 3.5 or even a 3 3/4. What gives????

Any Ideas, and I do not want to use spacers, things get werd, I just want the correct wheel!

TLCA # 13071
Thank you
Seth Jacobsen

Wheel w/o the hard top and you'll see a difference.

If you want to improve stability, stay with an 8" wheel, but get some with a 2" backspace. Do a search and find all of the details.

Jim

My very first thought was the same as GreenWeeny's: take the top off!

A big toolbox full of spare parts should help your center of gravity too! Works for me.

I do not have the top on, thats an old pic!!!!!!!!!!

Sethro

Spacers are fine if you keep up with them. The Cruiser bearings are just fine to hold up to the extra leverage. All Pro sell them for $99 for a set of (2) 1.5"

Next, do a thread search on 2" BS wheels. If you go to the trouble of doing 10" wheels, go for 2" BS. Summit sells US Wheels with custom BS. They are cheap too. Problem you go down then is that 12.50's won't stay on 10" wheels as well at low pressure without beadlocks so keep the pressure at or above 8#

Get rid of all the weight....tool box in the back does nothig but hurt you, strap spares to the floor and frame where applicable.

Finally, make sure you outboard your rear shocks at the top as far as you can. Folks that do SOA sometime inboard their shocks at the top so they can run a longer shock. Rear SOAs with stock Cruiser springs don't travel but 4-5" at best anyway so you won't need much uptravel...set them for downtravel and outboard them!

Nolen,

Help me out with the definition of inboard vs outboard shocks? My head is starting to throb....

Thanks
Ray

wngrog

I am not sprung over, does outboarding rear shocks still help tippyness?

Thanks
Seth

fj60/dana 60 wider axles help:)

Originally posted by exploren
wngrog

I am not sprung over, does outboarding rear shocks still help tippyness?

Thanks
Seth

I really don't see how you are complaing about being tippy :confused: I run 4" downey springs on 35" tires and i used to have a 3" BL and i would get sideways with my hard top on and i was fine. You are more stable with a SUA set up than with a SOA. Besides 3 wheel wheeling is the best, especially when one of your tires is 2 feet in the air :cool:

Keep in mind that if you buy rims with very little backspacing, you'll want them to have double thick centers. Rims like this give more leverage to bumps that hit on the ouside edge of the tire. Roots rocks etc that likely wouldn't hurt a normal offset rim (4"BS) will have more of a chance of bending a rim that sticks out far (1.5"BS).

Spacers have worked for many people on this board and would work for you...just be sure to get them from a vendor ON THIS BOARD. There are other companies out there that are a bit "ilreputible":( and don't know the difference between chevy and toyota center holes in rims and give you studs that are so short that only a steel wheel will work...not an aluminum wheel:mad:

it might be you,,, maybe you just need to get used to the feeling?? i am sprung over in a FJ55 and i can get waaaay leaned over w/o tipping, although i have been over 3 times now but that doesnt count:p

I think I will get the spacers from All Pro, what cha think? 1.5 x 2 = 3 more inches, he ahhhhhhhhh

Sethro

Then you'll be as wide as the rearend in a toyota pickup (the late 80's to early 90s ifs rears anyway).

www.mcmotorsports.com is where All-pro gets their spacers from, but MCM just charges a whole lot less.