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35 spline axles 1.5" dia, next to a stock 24 spline and 110CV

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KC finally caught welding in boots, not Tevas

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Verry cool.:eek: let the 'testing' begin.


-Jeff


Oh and those don't look like boots, but closed toe Birks.:flipoff2:

Absolutely fantastic. :eek:

Very nice - got some lift happening on those front spring mounts though. Guess there is no way around it with how much room the knuckle takes up from the wheel mount surface. On the d44 i did ages ago the spring plate sat a lot more beside the knuckle.

Sam

Actually, the lift from the spring perches is minimal. If you look at the stock rover housing you will notice they are fairly high to begine with. The 960 perches are around 1" higher.

Gee, I have two 9" center sections and a D44 and no real plans for any...

I wonder if this is something SWMBO's truck will need???

Don't let ArtM see this thread...'cuz the stock axles had 'plenty of strength...'














































:laughing:

BTW, nice work! Absolutely pimpin'!

Keep the pics coming. Looks great.

Way

Originally posted by Puffdragon
Actually, the lift from the spring perches is minimal. If you look at the stock rover housing you will notice they are fairly high to begine with. The 960 perches are around 1" higher.

Looks more like 3" when you compare picture 5 with the stock rover housing at the top of picture 8.

But still looks really good. I would like to see someone break one of those 35 spline axles in a rover.

are those D60 ball joint outers or 44 outers?

60s...hence 960(Ford 9"center/D60 outers)

Center section provenance?

I see where Strange will do most of the work for $300:eek:

Looks like one could build up quite the axle for $1000.

Kinda off topic, but...

KC/Jon - You sure about the separation on the front links? The picture looks like only about 40-60 degrees?

NOT critiquing. Just curious..

j

Sweet, say good-bye to shattered CVs.

Originally posted by redrangie
Kinda off topic, but...

KC/Jon - You sure about the separation on the front links? The picture looks like only about 40-60 degrees?

NOT critiquing. Just curious..

j

That was one of my concerns, but it has the same separation as before with the Safari Gard kit according to KC.

Tis

Originally posted by redrangie
Kinda off topic, but...

KC/Jon - You sure about the separation on the front links? The picture looks like only about 40-60 degrees?

NOT critiquing. Just curious..

j

That's kinda what I was thinking too, but I think it's just the camera angle..

Originally posted by Jtisdale
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There is the beef. Looking good!

JP

The three link separation is deceviing because of the different mounting location of the 3rd link. The separation is equal to the SG in it loading. The SG 3 link is kinda a PITA so fit to a non rover axle. We have a few new suspension setups that will replace the SG 3 link on all our axles from this point on.

seems like a more traditional 3-link would have been less work. I'm assuming the track-rod protector / axle mounting points gave you a lot of grief?

Originally posted by SeaRover
I'm assuming the track-rod protector / axle mounting points gave you a lot of grief?

It wasn't reused, new bracketry was fabricated. Am I missing your point?

no i'm a tard looking at things too quickly between meetings :emb4:

From KC's note it sounded like he first tried to reuse the SG 3-link bits but its obvious looking at the pics again that he didn't.

those are sweet man nice work.

Ohh, and by the way. we also build these for regular coiler fronts with radius arms. So Our front and rear axles are truely the strongest bolt in option for rovers to date. :rolleyes:

couple more

:)

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Bada-Bling

Just curious, how much for a '95 RR 4.0 with airbags? front and rear

D

SICK!!! Very nice work KC! Those beads look a lot beter than they did 4 years ago!!

Tiz you're gonna LOVE it! Right foot firmly planted, big grin, and nasty obstacles are in your future grasshopper!!

Welcome to the dark side my friend!

--D

KC-What was the source of the housing you used?

One of the center sections appears to be from Strange.

Don't tell me a 9" Ford center section can be put into a Rover housing-say it ain't so.

First Michael builds a coiler series one (Ike has gotta love that!), then Toyota centers in Rover housings, now 9" centers and 60 steering gear-my world is spinning!

I'm off to replace all of the non-genuine stuff on my truck with LR OEM:flipoff2:


ps-if all goes well today, I will have done a head gasket job in five hours!!! Woo fawkin' Hoo

Doug, Thanx man! Means alot from you. You have seen me go from my first products to this sillyness.

By the way what happened to ya on the 9 MOGs! We are about to start building them for a poor donor rover in the back.

Shram

We use all new housings. we do not use junk yard parts in any of our axles un-like other 9 builders. We start with a fresh 9" center of which we havwe a few options, And a pair of fresh DOM tubes. This is the base for all our 9" axles From there we adapt what ever parts we need to.

Oh, and for those that dont know. Tis's axle is running stock rover hubs (slightly modified) D60 spindles (slightly modified) Rover rotors and rover calipers. So you get to keep your wheel pattern etc. Ohh, and this is not a cost issue. You can go either way, for about the same price.

What hybrid axle can we build for you!!!!

Originally posted by Puffdragon
What hybrid axle can we build for you!!!!

PIMP!
:p

Insanely Jealous BTW

I paid the price to pimp a little:rolleyes: :flipoff2: :D ;)

Pimp away man.

Nice axles. Can't wait 'till they get thrashed on and we hear how good they really are.

Originally posted by Puffdragon

Tis's axle is running stock rover hubs (slightly modified) D60 spindles (slightly modified) Rover rotors and rover calipers.


Now this is good tech - how slightly modified are we talking here.

Just a matter of opening up the hubs up to the next bearing size?? What did you have to do to the d60 spindles?? Was it just so that you could fit the 35 spliners through or did you have to do something to the bearing spacing.

Sam

"Tis's axle is running stock rover hubs (slightly modified) D60 spindles (slightly modified) Rover rotors and rover calipers. So you get to keep your wheel pattern etc. Ohh, and this is not a cost issue. You can go either way, for about the same price.

What hybrid axle can we build for you!!!!"



K.C.,

This is really smoking, you have filled a gap.... Can you hear the wave coming?

Strange rover

If I told you all my secrets, I wouldnt have any secrets left.
But you are right for the most part. We use larger wheel bearings, thus the hub must be bored out a bit. And the spindles are a secret. Lets just say its beefy.

PS the 35 spline outers we use are so large that we have to bore out the chevy style spindles to have proper clearance (read Full thickness outers)

KC
I aspire to such greatness!

I didn't mean to imply you were using boneyard parts-that's my gig:flipoff2:


Peace,
PT

Originally posted by Puffdragon
Strange rover

If I told you all my secrets, I wouldnt have any secrets left.
But you are right for the most part. We use larger wheel bearings, thus the hub must be bored out a bit. And the spindles are a secret. Lets just say its beefy.

PS the 35 spline outers we use are so large that we have to bore out the chevy style spindles to have proper clearance (read Full thickness outers)

mmmmm - interesting. Time to pull my front d60 apart and take a few measurments. I got a rear salisbury to match it up with so putting rover hubs and brakes on the 60 would be worthwile. I figgered it would be possible since Jac Mac does a 35 spline conversion on the salisburys.

Nice to know that somebody has actually done it.

Sam

Tis' What R & P ratio are you running now? Bet your biggest problem now will be the low powered Rover Motor. What's next, Small Block 350?

Lookin' good. Can't wait to see those babies at the National Rally this year. You are going aren't you?

:drool:
I wish I had those......but truthfully, I wish I wheeled enough to need them.
Excellant work.

Originally posted by lwg
Tis' What R & P ratio are you running now? Bet your biggest problem now will be the low powered Rover Motor. What's next, Small Block 350?

Lookin' good. Can't wait to see those babies at the National Rally this year. You are going aren't you?

Larry-

4:56, I had 4:11s which were nearly perfect for the road with 37's but slightly undergeared offroad. I think 4:56s will do nicely.

I will be at the rally...what about an informal run @ Montrose or Independence before the event. We tried this last year but didn't make anything of it.

Tis

PS- I'm pretty well satisfied with the rover lump, I don't see any launches up 45' 70 degree slopes like the buggy guys in my future. Most everything else you can creep or work your way out of...although it does provide adequate "bump" power.

Originally posted by Jtisdale



I will be at the rally...what about an informal run @ Montrose or Independence before the event. We tried this last year but didn't make anything of it.

Tis



I'd be up for it. I downgraded to 33" tires for now but I think I could still drag my arse through those trails. Hopefully I will have a trailer by then to make the roadtrips much easier.:D

pulling this from the grave do we know what kind of spindles you can use to run 1.5 inch dia. shafts and still keep the rover hub? i don't think they are makeing these axles any more or are they?


Strange rover

If I told you all my secrets, I wouldnt have any secrets left.
But you are right for the most part. We use larger wheel bearings, thus the hub must be bored out a bit. And the spindles are a secret. Lets just say its beefy.

PS the 35 spline outers we use are so large that we have to bore out the chevy style spindles to have proper clearance (read Full thickness outers)

pm puffdragon I am pretty sure he has some spindle bored all ready and would probably sell them for the right price.

-ben

This didn't end up working so well. I've got from the spindle out including the rover hub if you are interested in my parts for cheap. The problem is bolting a "slug" to the end of the rover hub with 5 smallish flange bolts. They don't stay tight and they don't hold up to the added beef, I broke 3 without any effort. There isn't any room to increase diameter or add bolts IMO.

I've gone with more conventional 60 parts while still retaining the rover bolt pattern. New parts should be back within a few days, I'll post up some pics.

Tis

This didn't end up working so well. I've got from the spindle out including the rover hub if you are interested in my parts for cheap. The problem is bolting a "slug" to the end of the rover hub with 5 smallish flange bolts. They don't stay tight and they don't hold up to the added beef, I broke 3 without any effort. There isn't any room to increase diameter or add bolts IMO.

I've gone with more conventional 60 parts while still retaining the rover bolt pattern. New parts should be back within a few days, I'll post up some pics.

Tis

What are you doing for the rear? 10 bolts?

yep, David, ten bolts.

see the pic on page 2 of this thread.

yep, David, ten bolts.

see the pic on page 2 of this thread.

Thanks, looks fairly straight-foreword. Are you going to the option I used for the front?

if I remember right tis used 60 spindles from the get go.

-ben

maybe i wasn't clear what spindle is used in this pic. and is bolted on or is it welded to the axle?

now that i am looking a little closer what spindle is used in the front here and if you say dana 60 then what did they come off of i know that they will need machine work but was looking for a starting point

now that i am looking a little closer what spindle is used in the front here and if you say dana 60 then what did they come off of i know that they will need machine work but was looking for a starting point

Looks to me like the outters of of a late-model Ford D60 based on the knuckle.

Dynatrac balljoint which I believe are Ford.

New outer beef, nearly broke my back getting these out of the truck. New shafts on the way and as soon as Pendy gets my steering gear together I'll finally be back on the trail.

Dynatrac balljoint which I believe are Ford.

New outer beef, nearly broke my back getting these out of the truck. New shafts on the way and as soon as Pendy gets my steering gear together I'll finally be back on the trail.

Why did you upgrade? Surely you weren't breaking your old stuff??? :confused:

Not breaking shafts but some of the other parts weren't holding up. Specifically the "slug" bolted to the rover hub was not staying tight and I broke several bolts holding the two together.