: Brake lines on HP60


jlake1
03-15-2004, 08:35 PM
Picked up a '79 60 for the front of my heep, but it didn't come with the soft lines, so I am not sure what the stock brake line set-up is.

I would like to run a single braided line down from the master, if possible.


Any help would be great, thanks.

And by the way, I searched.....:flipoff2:


Thanks,
Jay

jlake1
03-16-2004, 05:07 PM
ttt.....

Thanks,
Jay

built4wheelin
03-16-2004, 05:15 PM
i ran a flex line to the top of my diff (D60 rc). used a 1979 f-250 rear line. its like 24" long. gives plenty to flex axle.

then went hard line to the knuckes and stock flex lines to the calipers.

jlake1
03-16-2004, 05:43 PM
Thanks for the update. Did you use a stock or aftermarket rear brake line to get the 24"?

Also were the ports on it compatible with the flex lines or M/C?

I'm running an E350 master.

Thanks,
Jay

built4wheelin
03-16-2004, 06:12 PM
a stock '79 f-250 line is the longest one i could find. it's about 24" long and the "T" has 3/16" female fittings that work perfect for running the hard lines down the tubes.

the top end is also 3/16" female double flare... i had to use an adapter to get it into my 1/2 ton master. not sure on your 1 ton master cyl.
adapters are easily available tho...

saf-t scissors
03-16-2004, 07:10 PM
78-79 F-150 and Bronco use a setup like this -- the hard line along the axle is attached to the flex line at the tires. It's three separate pieces -- a left line, right line, and the flex line from the frame.

You might be able to use these -- the only issue would be the length of the left and right assemblies -- the D60 is a couple of inches wider than the D44, so you'd have to make up the difference with a short hard line or maybe by bending/tweaking the hard lines.

4wd Chevies are similar -- short flex lines (12", same l/r) with hard lines (generic stock stuff, bend to fit) on the axle and a long flex drop line. I used the short flex lines on my rear discs.

HTH

axaviere
03-17-2004, 11:01 PM
this may be useless info, but i have a 79 bronco with D44. i swapped on 8 lug outers from an f250 and kept the same bronco/f150 brake lines, but my D60 has different lines to the caliper, which is the same caliper as the 44HD out of an f250. like the man said ford has a soft line from the proportioning valve to a "T" at the top of the pumpkin then hard lines out to brackets that hold the end of the caliper soft line and thats also where they join the hard lines. you could get either f150/250 or bronco lines from the calipers, even a russel or earls banjo fitting may work, thats all the stock lines are. good luck.

jlake1
03-18-2004, 02:51 AM
Thanks for all the help.....a few dozen trips to the autoparts stores, and I should be all set!

Jay

jlake1
03-21-2004, 05:01 PM
axaviere,
I didn't understand what you were trying to tell me before, but it all makes sense now. Too bad I already modified my $50 D60 brake lines.....

....sooooo now I need adapters to go from the 7/16 caliper lines to the 3/8 F250 line.

No one knows if anyone ever built a 1/4 (7/16 thread) softline drop ~24in long, do you?

Thanks,
Jay

plug ugly
03-22-2004, 02:43 PM
Originally posted by sclemons

You might be able to use these............................................. maybe by bending/tweaking the hard lines.

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thats what i did and it worked just fine. Not the prettiest thing in the world, but working so far.
http://www.superford.org/getfile.php?id=96812&toggle=fullsize&f=back of front.jpg

Shoope1
03-22-2004, 04:37 PM
Originally posted by plug ugly



thats what i did and it worked just fine. Not the prettiest thing in the world, but working so far.
http://www.superford.org/getfile.php?id=96812&toggle=fullsize&f=back of front.jpg

Sowhere down the road I think that hard line setup you have will bite you. The brake line is exposed to any stick branch rock that can get up there. And it will happen.

built4wheelin
03-22-2004, 05:02 PM
Originally posted by jlake1


....sooooo now I need adapters to go from the 7/16 caliper lines to the 3/8 F250 line.

No one knows if anyone ever built a 1/4 (7/16 thread) softline drop ~24in long, do you?

Thanks,
Jay


you should be able to find adapters to go from 3/16" hard line to your 1/4" flex lines. look in the weatherhead bin at your local parts dive.

plug ugly
03-22-2004, 09:30 PM
[i]Originally posted by Shoope1 [/Sowhere down the road I think that hard line setup you have will bite you. The brake line is exposed to any stick branch rock that can get up there. And it will happen. [/B]


So i'll bite, what would you recommend? As far as I know, all 78/9 for coil setups came that way, not sure how the leaf stuff came, but I did fine with a similar setup on a D44 sas I had. i agree that the line is exposed, but here in Ca. we dont drive over that many tree branches

Shoope1
03-23-2004, 09:09 AM
U might be alright then. For west coast wheeling.

saf-t scissors
03-23-2004, 09:41 AM
I don't buy it either. What specifically do you see wrong with that setup? The hard lines are all properly secured, they're high and to the rear of the axle (minimizing impact/crushing damage, etc).

What would you do differently?

Using the single flex drop from the frame to the caliper leaves fewer feet of line down in harm's way, but it's hardly a bulletproof setup, either... we had a guy kick a 6" dia log up into the wheelwell one time (actually wedged itself up in there). If he'd been running a single brake line drop from the frame, it could have been damaged... but instead he was a setup like plug ugly's, and the line was well out of the way.

Either setup could be susceptible to damage given the right circumstances.

Shoope1
03-23-2004, 12:02 PM
Ur right. Flex hoses are vunerable too. Its just my opinion that the hard line in the middle is more at risk.
just my opinion.

Myself I like flex hoses better.