Everyone told me that the cast, not welded radius arm mounts can't be cut off or there will be a hole. Is this true? I thought it was till a few 77-79 Bronco owners told me they could be cut off and that they are NOT hollow.

So I come to the source, are they hollow or solid?

well I've heard of 3 people for a fact that have done it and I will be cutting up my 79 d-44 in about a week to do it...................

The long tube is two separate pieces. You CAN narrow the axle, by grinding the weld and knocking off the the cast piece, but if you are just going to grind the cast wedges down, don't expect to make it out of the driveway.

I think he means cutting them off and welding on a different axle not shortening the origional axle. Like im going to cut them off and weld them on a d-60.........

If that's the case, why not buy some new ones from duff vs. killing a good 44.

I saw one in person that was cut and it was hollow.

I was talking about cutting them off (the radius arm mounts) to mount my coils on it. If I can't cut them off I'll get it retubed with 1/2" tube and maybe shortend some.

Cuz duffs are 75 bux plus shipping and I have a housing at my disposal for free. if you would like to buy it i will sell it to you for 90 dollars. It has a welded on 3/8th's inch plate, axle truss and leaks a little gear oil out of the stock plug welds. Oh yeah the long tube has been poped loose too at one point but it has been straightened and welded back in :flipoff2:


Im cuttin mine up because I wouldn't want to sell it to somebody. It *works* but its not worth the time for someone to use it, just to have it leak all the time. But if you see it different I will glady sell it to anyone who wants it ;)

What does duff make, tubes?

Are you trying to sell me your pumkin?

I already have the axle w/ Warn hubs, Warn shafts, 4.10s, CTMs, Lock-right, and high steer arms.

WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU ASKING XJ4THEKICKIN? Are you talking about the radius arm mounts on the axle? the little "<o>" shapped parts or the radius arms them selves? Cuz the radius arm mounts you cant mounts your springs to. And I have no clue as to what your going to have re-tubed to a 1/2" inch.

heres a pic draw some arrows to what the fuck your talking about and what you want to know. http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?s=&postid=2576781

Originally posted by muddinmike
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU ASKING XJ4THEKICKIN? Are you talking about the radius arm mounts on the axle? the little "<o>" shapped parts or the radius arms them selves? Cuz the radius arm mounts you cant mounts your springs to. And I have no clue as to what your going to have re-tubed to a 1/2" inch.



YES! thats WHAT THE FUCK I am talking about! I was asking If I could cut those castings off? So the axle will be smooth or are they hollow inside?

How the fuck do you have no clue what I am going to retube w/ 1/2" tube? If the mounts are hollow I can't cut them off to mount my fucking coils so I will have to retube my fucking axle. Get it now?

What the Fuck!? ;) :D

alright man, here is the deal. certain years they welded them onto the axle and later they cast them into 12" sections that had tubes pressed into them and were all welded together to make an axle as opposed to solid tubes with <> welded to them. now one guy took the cast style deals to a machine shop and they wanted $150 and after he picked them up the guy said no less than $150 a side if he ever had to do it again. you should get a quote in writing from a machine shop before you look at going this way. i got the welded on ones and just took a grinder to them myself.
http://www.superford.org/getfile.php?id=95060&toggle=fullsize&f=grinder02.jpg

Hey XJ, what is your axle out of? I happen to have a 73 bronco axle housing that the previous owner cut the axle wedges anbd track bar mount off of. it isn't hollow. In fact I am looking for a D44 housing with the wedges on it to put in my bronco. maybe we could trade housings or something. where are you located?

Thanks guys yeah I never thought about a trade.....If I had the axle on me I would trade in a heartbeat, but I want have it off my friends rig till April. :rolleyes:

My axle is a 78-79 F150 or Bronco. If you want to wait a little while I'll trade you or someone. I guess I could take everything offf and the hysteer arms and we coud swap housings. I do have a Forward Air by my house.

Is your housing rusty? Mines clean w/ new paint, heck even if its rusty I'll trade, LOL!

Originally posted by kwspony
Hey XJ, what is your axle out of? I happen to have a 73 bronco axle housing that the previous owner cut the axle wedges anbd track bar mount off of. it isn't hollow. In fact I am looking for a D44 housing with the wedges on it to put in my bronco. maybe we could trade housings or something. where are you located?
EB's are welded on, not Cast on so you can them off

Too bad there isn't a web page that tell you what years ran what wedges. An if it had pictures and information.... I bet if a guy searched he could find one.

http://77cj.littlekeylime.com/images/dana44/78-79tubesandcoilmountpaint2.jpg

Originally posted by Mr.N
Too bad there isn't a web page that tell you what years ran what wedges. An if it had pictures and information.... I bet if a guy searched he could find one.





That sure would be a great idea if someone did that.... ;)

like pictures and a place for those pics, a site if you will where people could go to somehow without leaving the house.

you know i cant tell if the person that started this thread wants to put a D60 or what. but i will tell you that making this
http://77cj.littlekeylime.com/images/dana44/78-79tubesandcoilmountpaint2.jpg
fit a D60 or putting them back on a 44 will be costly. you could just get a new d44 axle cheaper

I don't want to have to shorten a housing, I would like to find a EB housing to save me all the trouble. good luck with yours.

Originally posted by Mr.N
Too bad there isn't a web page that tell you what years ran what wedges. An if it had pictures and information.... I bet if a guy searched he could find one.

http://77cj.littlekeylime.com/images/dana44/78-79tubesandcoilmountpaint2.jpg

Too bad I ALREADY looked at YOUR page many times.

The only reason I started this is because some Bronco guys said my years were off and I was wrong about the castings, I SHOWED THEM YOUR WEBPAGE! :flipoff2:
Plus webpages can be wrong, so I asked Ford guys directly, is that ok Mr. N?

I found your webpage on NAXJA before I found it on here. :D

Proof is here: http://caos4x4.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2532

Originally posted by jopes




That sure would be a great idea if someone did that.... ;)

Someone already DID days ago.... :flipoff2:

Originally posted by axaviere
like pictures and a place for those pics, a site if you will where people could go to somehow without leaving the house.

you know i cant tell if the person that started this thread wants to put a D60 or what. but i will tell you that making this
http://77cj.littlekeylime.com/images/dana44/78-79tubesandcoilmountpaint2.jpg
fit a D60 or putting them back on a 44 will be costly. you could just get a new d44 axle cheaper

Nowhere in your entire post did I understand anything you just typed. If you can't understand you have issues.....but lets try this for what the 3rd time?

I have an XJ (hint: my user name) I have a built HP D44 w/ cast mounts I want to put in my Jeep. I asked a simple simple very easy question, "Everyone told me that the cast, not welded radius arm mounts can't be cut off or there will be a hole. Is this true? " The answer, Yes they can't be cut off without a hole in the housing.

Nowhere at any time was D60 or anything else mentioned by ME THE GUY THAT STARTED THE THREAD. :flipoff2:

your dumb.

There is always a hole in the housing. how does the axle shaft get through. try using words like is the tube solid so I can grind the casting off or is there a "gap" between the two ends of the casting.

I think that would make more sense. You confused everyone because you posted a question that is very vauge


:flipoff2:

Originally posted by Mr.N
Too bad there isn't a web page that tell you what years ran what wedges. An if it had pictures and information.... I bet if a guy searched he could find one.

http://77cj.littlekeylime.com/images/dana44/78-79tubesandcoilmountpaint2.jpg
Have you seen the Dana 44 page i made?
Its here
Mr. Marks Dana 44 page (http://77cj.littlekeylime.com/web_rs44.html) :flipoff2:

well then quite simply, if you have the cast <> on your axle, you sir are stuck with them. is that plain enough? you can however find a D44HD that came out of an F250, that will have perches for leafs already and swap everything from the built 44 over to that axle fairly simply. or fab over the <> on the axle that you have. plain enough? the hole in the casting section is irregular at best, thats why you cant cut them off. you could retube, but the D44HD would be best. you have leafs mr XJ? i think the perches even line up with you guys rigs. & hey thanks for clearing up your confusion as you never said why you wanted to cut them off in the first place. had you said you were putting a built 44 under your heep, someone would have mentioned the D44HD housing to you. but hey, your a heck of a guy, glad to help you out. i salute you :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Originally posted by XJ4THEKICKIN
The only reason I started this is because some Bronco guys said my years were off and I was wrong about the castings, I SHOWED THEM YOUR WEBPAGE! :flipoff2:
Plus webpages can be wrong, so I asked Ford guys directly, is that ok Mr. N?

I found your webpage on NAXJA before I found it on here. :D

Proof is here: http://caos4x4.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2532
Thanks for pointing this out, I'll go correct them :D
My web page has been wrong in the past, I even caught an error last night on it. However I did place a lot of time into it and have talked to many people at Dana and was luckly to have several books sent to me my them. So if my years are off it because Dana info was incorrect. (Yes I've found some errors. I'm always open to some send me corrections. )

Note from my web page "Do note that because of the different Ford plants some parts do overlap production year(s). I’ve been informed that usually the Dearborn plant received parts first in the 60’s, while San Jose and Atlanta were at the end of the line. "

Originally posted by XJ4THEKICKIN
Proof is here: http://caos4x4.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2532 :rolleyes: That is note proof. It's one guy with a swapped in axle and another agreeing with him.

I really would like to find proof of a 78-79 Ford axle with weld on wedges. Need pics of the BOM and wedges. (I've been know to change pics for jokes, so not modifying the pics!) Really I'm looking for this and no proof has yet to be published that I know of, and as you know I'll go after it.

I don't think they are out there because the EB, F150 and F100 that use wedges are 2.75" axle tubes, all 78-79 are just under ~3" axle tubes. So custom wedges would have needed to be made.

Originally posted by welndmn

Have you seen the Dana 44 page i made?
Its here
Mr. Marks Dana 44 page (http://77cj.littlekeylime.com/web_rs44.html) :flipoff2: :D
You'll have to modify the Mr.N in the pic (on the tube next to the inner tube yellow arrow end) before I believe you! :p

Now find the hidden Mr.N in this one.
http://77cj.littlekeylime.com/images/dana44/dana4478-79axle_cut.jpg

Originally posted by axaviere
well then quite simply, if you have the cast <> on your axle, you sir are stuck with them. is that plain enough? you can however find a D44HD that came out of an F250, that will have perches for leafs already and swap everything from the built 44 over to that axle fairly simply. or fab over the <> on the axle that you have. plain enough? the hole in the casting section is irregular at best, thats why you cant cut them off. you could retube, but the D44HD would be best. you have leafs mr XJ? i think the perches even line up with you guys rigs. & hey thanks for clearing up your confusion as you never said why you wanted to cut them off in the first place. had you said you were putting a built 44 under your heep, someone would have mentioned the D44HD housing to you. but hey, your a heck of a guy, glad to help you out. i salute you :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Thank you! :)

Its ok you do drive a Ford.

Originally posted by Mr.N
:rolleyes: That is note proof. It's one guy with a swapped in axle and another agreeing with him.



LOL! I know your right, I was saying its proof that I've been looking at your webpage. Yeah ahh neither of them know what they are saying.

yeah i do drive a ford. and i am ditching the axle your swapping in. and your swapping ford parts into your jeep so is that ford envy? i know our 78-79 D60 axles are highly prized by jeepers. but all in fun man. look for a f250 housing, like i said i am pretty sure your leafs line up perfect, just get a 77.5-79 f250 axle housing. i think ... you better measure first, but the guts will swap & the outers as well.

Originally posted by XJ4THEKICKIN


LOL! I know your right, I was saying its proof that I've been looking at your webpage. Yeah ahh neither of them know what they are saying. Guess I jumped the gun.
Guess I'm turning in to an old POR guy that is more worried about jumping in an argument than posting facts :flipoff2:

Originally posted by axaviere
yeah i do drive a ford. and i am ditching the axle your swapping in. and your swapping ford parts into your jeep so is that ford envy? i know our 78-79 D60 axles are highly prized by jeepers. but all in fun man. look for a f250 housing, like i said i am pretty sure your leafs line up perfect, just get a 77.5-79 f250 axle housing. i think ... you better measure first, but the guts will swap & the outers as well.

Thanks man yeah all in fun ;)

By the time my XJ is where I want it to be it should have Jeep/Ford/Toy/maybe a little Chevy in it. :p

i hear ya, but as long as you use all them parts to make it work how you want it, thats just fine. GM started creeping onto my rig when i used GM calipers on the D60 rear and now i am leaning towards a 14bolt rear axle, but ssshhhhh dont tell anyone