I think I'm gonna start off by running 33's under my scout with my 3/4 D44 & 14 bolt (shaved of course, I don't wanna send the sparks flyin'):eek:

at least I would have NO fear of breakin' an axle

Come awn.. at least some 35's :p

14 bolt and 33" :eek: trench digger

:D :D :D 14 bolt and 33" cool :smokin: :smokin: :smokin: :usa:

Originally posted by camo
14 bolt and 33" :eek: trench digger

C/mon it'd be shaved :beer:

I ran 33's with a D60 for 1 run. Talk about a grave digger:mad3: I hit every rock on the trail. Go with at least 35's! Your 44 can handle them.

Why put in a 14 bolt?? Why not run a Dana 44?? If set up right it would hold up just fine and you wouldn't be leaving a trench behind you. :confused: Why waste the effort if you're not gonna run big tires? :confused:

Originally posted by GloNDark
Why put in a 14 bolt?? Why not run a Dana 44?? If set up right it would hold up just fine and you wouldn't be leaving a trench behind you. :confused: Why waste the effort if you're not gonna run big tires? :confused:

That's a good question....

I REALLY want to get 35's or even 37's but there's no way that's gonna happen anytime soon. I've got a 6month old baby and am planning on moving back to colorado in a few months so most of my money is tied up right now.

I would just get 33's and stick em on my scout which has 44's f/r but then what happens when I do an axle swap in a few months or a year (I ALREADY OWN THE AXLES and harware to swap them) and my tires are still in good condition, then it's like I wasted my money cause I sure couldn't use 15" 33 on my 3/4 ton gear, that I plan on running 16" rims with. So I'd have to buy all new tires and wheels.

What I'm thinking is that if I get 33's now and put them on my 3/4 ton shiat, with 16" rims then while i'm still not running really hardcore (I've still got a lot to learn about wheelin' hardcore) I can buy one 37" tire at a time and that way by the time I'm dragging my axle on the hardcore shiat (that I don't even do yet) I'll have the tires I need to clear the cool shiat without having to take out a second morgage on the house.

did that make any sense????

Originally posted by Cliffhanger


I would just get 33's and stick em on my scout which has 44's f/r but then what happens when I do an axle swap

Are you SURE 15" 8-luggers won't clear your 3/4T stuff w/o a little grinding on the calipers? :-)

You could always buy some 16" 5 on 5.5 wheels for now, buy your new 33s for a 16" wheel and run 'em until the new axles come, then swap the tires over to the 8-lug stuff.

I, too, am looking down the road towards 16" wheels.. but there's a shortage of wheelin' tires in that size. Interco makes lots of big tires.. for 15" rims, and 16.5s. Check out the selection for 16s!

aw hell, just run it and spank some of them TJ's with the Dana 35C and 35"s...just don't air down to single digits:p

Originally posted by tsm1mt


Are you SURE 15" 8-luggers won't clear your 3/4T stuff w/o a little grinding on the calipers? :-)

I have SERIOUS reservations about grinding my calipers :eek:


You could always buy some 16" 5 on 5.5 wheels for now, buy your new 33s for a 16" wheel and run 'em until the new axles come, then swap the tires over to the 8-lug stuff.

That's a thinker, since I'd be getting new rims anyway. That's defintely chaper than buying new tires in a year or so.


I, too, am looking down the road towards 16" wheels.. but there's a shortage of wheelin' tires in that size. Interco makes lots of big tires.. for 15" rims, and 16.5s. Check out the selection for 16s!

I haven't looked much into the 33" selection for 16" rims but I like the variety of 35" and up for 16" rims for sure.


Thanks for the tips TSM1MT :beer:

Originally posted by Cutter
aw hell, just run it and spank some of them TJ's with the Dana 35C and 35"s...just don't air down to single digits:p

No doubt on the single digits :eek: 35's on 35's...hmm, kinda has a nice ring to it (yeah like SNAP!!!) :D

Originally posted by Cliffhanger


That's a good question....

I've got a 6month old baby and am planning on moving back to colorado in a few months so most of my money is tied up right now.

did that make any sense????

PERFECT SENSE!! If you are eventually going to run 35's or 37's GO FOR IT!! I thought for some reason you were gonna run 33's for ever. :eek: :D

He's from Nebraska, how the hell you think they dig the ruts to plant all that corn?

Originally posted by Cliffhanger


I haven't looked much into the 33" selection for 16" rims but I like the variety of 35" and up for 16" rims for sure.

Thanks for the tips TSM1MT :beer:

*I* don't like the 35+ assortment!

I think I saw 36x13x16 TSL Biasply.. and some TSL-Radials.

I don't think there was anything else 35+ offered by Interco for a 16" wheel. No 38s. No SXs.

Plenty of stuff in the 31-35" size range, tho' not "35x12.50s" necessarily.. but it's easy to find "truck" tires for 16" wheels.

Just not big fat flotation tires. :)

Originally posted by FearMe
He's from Nebraska, how the hell you think they dig the ruts to plant all that corn?

Now thats funny :D but so true...

What are you doing now??? Have you actually sat down in the ol lazy boy and thought about what this is going to look like??? Think about it. Full width axles and 33's on a Sprout. Kind of reminds you of a roller skate doesn't it??? :flipoff2:

I hear ya though, heres a twisted thought for you. 16" steel wheels (cheap) for 5 on 5 1/2 pattern and metric rubber. Say a P285/85R 16. You get your "33's" plus when the axle swap comes together you have good rubber for the daily driver/tow rig (3/4 or 1 ton P/U)??? I don't know kind of waists a set of wheels though. But any way you look at it you are going to be out one or the other.

If you stick to the 44 front 15" wheels clear the calipers with no grinding. Its the exact same set up as a 1/2 ton front end. Same calipers and stands. The rotors and hubs just have 2 more holes in them on the 3/4 ton 44. The problem lies in those monster 13" drums in the rear... but that can be cured as well. Disc brake swap will cure it, shallow offset, or wheel spacers. Actually I think they'll just bolt on.

Now a question for you. When you say 35's or even 37's are in your future, are you talking radials??? Not a good choice in my opinion if you are talking doing hard core rock, especially with a lead sled like a Scout.

And to answer your question, I will! (make fun of you) :flipoff2:

How's the baby? Hope all is well. Be home in March for vacation.

Since he has a 14 bolt, I'm assuming the 3/4 front 44 is also a Chevy. If thats the case:

Originally posted by Bob Levenhagen

If you stick to the 44 front 15" wheels clear the calipers with no grinding. Its the exact same set up as a 1/2 ton front end. Same calipers and stands. The rotors and hubs just have 2 more holes in them on the 3/4 ton 44.


Wrong. The caliper brackets are different, and will require grinding (as will the caliper) to fit a standard backspacing (4 1/8") 15 x 10. However, it is a good way to go, the grinding is not excessive IMO, and I've done/helped with several.

Originally posted by Bob Levenhagen

The problem lies in those monster 13" drums in the rear... but that can be cured as well. Disc brake swap will cure it, shallow offset, or wheel spacers.


Wrong again. The same wheels that won't fit the front w/out grinding, will fit the rear. However, some rear disk setups (mine included) will require grinding (not as much as the front, thought).


Pete

Yeah dude, just run a 44 if all you're planning on running for tires is 33's or that thing will be a total grave digger.

Originally posted by tsm1mt


You could always buy some 16" 5 on 5.5 wheels for now, buy your new 33s for a 16" wheel and run 'em until the new axles come, then swap the tires over to the 8-lug stuff.



This is the route I will go, so long as I can get 16"x 5-on-5.5

Thanks for the advice guys:beer: :beer:

Um, yeah, great advice Jakester...., but if you read the thread, he's looking to do 37s in the future (when he can afford it).

I'm in a similar boat. I have 35 x12.5 x 15s on a 5 x 5.5 wheel right now, but am going 14 bolt rear and 44, 8 lug front (someday a 60).

I'm trying to decide between keeping 15" tires (I am going at least 38s for wheeling though) or go 16.5. I agree that the selection for 16" tires by Interco is slim.

I'm hesitant about the 16.5" tires due to the lack of bead retention. I will be doing Rockstomper's beadlocks, but this still doesn't address the inner bead (would like to have at least the standard bead retention there).

In a recent thread, there was mention of Chevy 16.5 having the standard bead retention. I just need to confirm that and find out what the BS would be on a set of stock Chevy 16.5s.

I figure I can always sell the 35s, not sure if the market is as good for the 33s in your area.

Good Luck,

Charly

Well after all the dicussion I looked in one of my mags and noticed there's only an average of $10-$30 difference in tire prices from 33"-35" and even some 33"-37" prices were only $30-$40 different.

I don't know about you guys but that's not near as much of savings as I thought it would be for the 33's so I'll definitely be holding out for AT LEAST 35's maybe even 37's but it will be a daily driver so 37's are just a maybe.

save up for a little longer and get the 37" then do the swap. other wise you will get the 35" and for about 10 minutes they will be cool. then your gonna say. gee i got these great axles and put in a bunch of work if only i would of spent a few extra bucks and got the tire i wanted the first time. :D

Originally posted by camo
save up for a little longer and get the 37" then do the swap. other wise you will get the 35" and for about 10 minutes they will be cool. then your gonna say. gee i got these great axles and put in a bunch of work if only i would of spent a few extra bucks and got the tire i wanted the first time. :D

OH man, if I had a dollar for everytime I said "I wish I would have spent the extra $100 and got that one instead....."

Originally posted by GloNDark


OH man, if I had a dollar for everytime I said "I wish I would have spent the extra $100 and got that one instead....."

Yeah then we'd all have that EXTRA $100 that we needed at the time huh?? ;) :beer: :D

Originally posted by camo
save up for a little longer and get the 37" then do the swap. other wise you will get the 35" and for about 10 minutes they will be cool. then your gonna say. gee i got these great axles and put in a bunch of work if only i would of spent a few extra bucks and got the tire i wanted the first time. :D

Yeah I'm gonna. But it's still a daily driver so I'm not sure if it's gonna be 37's or 35's:confused:

Originally posted by Cliffhanger


Yeah I'm gonna. But it's still a daily driver so I'm not sure if it's gonna be 37's or 35's:confused:

35s. Or both.

You can get some decent 35s pretty "cheaply".. I've been thinking of something like the Grabber MTs at $135-ish each for daily use.

Until I completely stop driving my Scout around town and down the highway n' such, it's too expensive to burn up $$$ tires.

I'll have a set of larger/more aggressive tires strictly for trail use.. but *I* can't justify going through a set of 37s in a year.. I hated it when I burned up my first set of 33s in 12 months (4k miles in the first month driving it to Moab, Colorado, Seattle, etc to go play)

'course now on those long trips, I have my Travelette and car trailer. The 1T runs 235/85-16s at $85 each that should get plenty of mileage.. and the trailer runs 235/75-15s.. $50 each. :D

Originally posted by Cliffhanger
Yeah I'm gonna. But it's still a daily driver so I'm not sure if it's gonna be 37's or 35's:confused: For a DD, I think 35" is a good compromise.

I have ran both 35" and 38.5" on my SII with a D44 rear, without any problems. :)
But then again, I only have the 304cui.... :(

Originally posted by camo
14 bolt and 33" :eek: trench digger
my ass! that's a land "ancor":eek: :eek: :eek:

Yep, I'm running the Grabber MTs as my street/winter tires.

They only cost $120 each at Sam's Club.

Originally posted by Charly
Yep, I'm running the Grabber MTs as my street/winter tires.

They only cost $120 each at Sam's Club.

They sell 35" grabber MT's at sams club??? Do you have to request them special or something??

The largest tire I've ever seen there were 275/70/R15's or something like that. I know that 315/75/R15 (or 16 and 16.5) are the equivalent to 35's

years ago we used to get 35" yokohama m/t at sams club

They did have to special order them, but they carry them. And for the price it was worth waiting the week it took for them to get them.

Originally posted by Charly
They did have to special order them, but they carry them. And for the price it was worth waiting the week it took for them to get them.

SWEET thanks for the tip:beer:

I go to colorado at least once or twice a month anyway,:idea: oh wait I don't even have to go that far!, there's a Sams Club in Chyenne. Maybe I'll give them a call and see if they can still order them.

That is a sweet price, the mags quote $144.00

I just contacted Sams Club in Cheyenne WY and was informed that General Tire's Grabber Mt(Mountain terrain) in the
35 x 12.5 x 16.5 size runs $131.62 per tire (not installed of course)

.......Here's a thought....... swap in the axles, go to the PNP and pick up a set of 16x7 Stock ford rims.... and get a set of Michelin 900.16 XML radials ( 36 or 37" if memory serves ) and you're stylin' for low bucks....... oh yeah ... cut the fenders to fit:D

Hmm, sorry, I just got mine about a month and a half ago, and they were 120.80 each.

Dont bother with the big axle if your only going to 35s. I had a Scout for years and used to lead the Scout trip through the con and we never broke a rear 44 in the 5 years I lead the trip. Lots of bigger than 35 tires. I upgraded to a 35 spline 60 when I went to 36s and ended up with less clearance...doh!

Ive got dual 60's that Im getting parts for (slowly). Still need the histeer arm(the one like Avalanches w/twist), tierod & draglink with the TRE's & go thru the axles to make sure everythings fine such as the kingpins, still need missing hubs, still need to make the spring perches(2in wide) for the rear SOA & set the pinion angle, but I have not decided if I will use one of my 4in lift spring sets or stock cause it depends on the tire size 35 36 or 37(16 or 16.5in rim) Ill run. Where I currently have the 15in.
Rite now Im needing brakes done soon on my 44's & since when I engineered my reverse shackle in anticipation of the D60's & SOA I havent a good front pinion angle(need longer driveshaft). Im needing new tires, luckily Ive got 1 spare tho, so Im not looking forward to putting anymore $$$ in the current setup especially tires for 15in rims that Ill have to modify my calipers to run. I still need front shocks & to fab a front shock tower/hoop.
This too is a ScoutII!!! :usa:

Like Camo said, your are not going to be happy with 35's in short time. But hey, weaving through the rocks taking different lines than everyone else will make it more interesting for you.

Originally posted by scwafish
Dont bother with the big axles if your only going to 35s!

I wouldn't if A: I didn't already own them and have a detroit in the FF14 & B: or if I had a place to store them, besides under ANYBODY ON POR's RIG :eek: :flipoff2: C:I wasn't planning on running 37's in the future

Other than that I wouldn't bother.