I finnaly did it, i tiped my trooper over ( is there a club for that?) but i got it back on its feet with minor door dents (chicks dig body damage) but my question is, if you reduce the wieght of the body i.e. the doors all 4 and the back 2 would it help the roll over, or will it jsut make it worse. is there a way to decrease the top heaveyness with out any major mods. thanks

Originally posted by be-raddd
if you reduce the wieght of the body i.e. the doors all 4 and the back 2 would it help the roll over, or will it jsut make it worse.

It may make it somewhat less likely to flop since there is less weight up top. But in the event that you do flop over again, the outcome is going to be a lot worse if all of the doors are removed. You'll lose quite a bit of structural integrity with no doors on. JMHO
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yeah you gonna crew things over taking doors off, that's a lot of structural integrity for a rig lacking tube, also what would normally puncture your doors will either screw you over your passengers or leave you with even worse damage to more integral parts, this prolly won't doo much, but other than LOWERING (ummmm no) the rig, try putting fairly heavy things along your floor boards, only thing is it would suck to be nailed by a 45 pund plate in the event of another roll

Originally posted by douchebagkangaroo


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relevance to the thread.......... roll overs bad!!!
copy land rover and have a fiberglass roff starting from the window sills up made!!!

what if i got tube doors fabed. would that help the structural integrety? ive been thinkin tube doors all around on a 4-door would look pretty cool. never seen any pics of it at least. i was thinkin id re-mount the spare tire to the floor in the back, that would also move some weight lower. any more ideas?

you could always make it wider to lower COG

im running a set of rims that have 4.5" of back spacing and are 7" wide. This helps ALOT whith stability. On these rigs is a good idea to run as wide a tire as possible whith as little lift as posible. But if your trooper is already lifted and on bigger tires i dont realy have much advise.

stability really has to do with "sprung" vs "un-sprung" weight. having layed my old rig down before, as well as numerous 3/4 flops and way too many "close calls"...............well i was super aware of this as an issue.

my rig now feals more stable than ever............BUT............i have a considerable amount of the trucks weight below the leaf springs. as well the motor is mounted lower as compared to the stock motor..............and i have removed all the glass and doors up top.

and on top of all that, i am full width with 14.5" wide tires.


NOW.........................does that help you..............NO.


you wanted to know about making the stock truck less likely to flop.


Basically make the track width wide as possible with as little lift as you can get away with to clear the tires. Skip the roof racks and top heavy shit if you wheel it a lot.

then think about an axle swap :flipoff2:

Matt put his finger gently on it... the largest amount of weight up the highest is GLASS.

All the other suggestions (wider, lower, etc.) still ring true, but if you want to lower your Center of Gravity (COG), pull the glass. Pulling all the side and rear doors will have that affect, but other folks have pointed out the decrease in structure inherent in doing this.

Randii

i searched but couldnt find anything specific.

anyone know about how much lighter lexan is than glass? all i've seen is that it's "lighter" and it is easier scratched and faded, and doesn't break very easily

itt seems like with the money put into gettin lexan put in and all, you'd end up spendin a crap load of money that could be aimed in a better direction, trie mountin the tire in the back, that would definetely make a difference, try a wider off set, think about heavier bumpers, if you're really stuck on this, try adding weight to the bumpers








no, no no.................i..think i got it

fill you tires with sand!!!!!!!!!

but you might wanna ditch the cv's before that









aw heck.........buy a new truck, maybe an audi or a subaru chop the fenders and slap some 33's on there!!!!
yeah yeah that's the ticket!!!!!!!!!!!!

theres a guy on ultimatesuabaru.net who has 33s on brat...:eek:

i remember seein apicture of one in a 4x4 mag

THAT WAS MY POINT ABOUT UNSPRUNG WEIGHT :rolleyes:


TOTALLY wrong approach...............you can make 1000 lb bumbers, but they are still over the suspension wich makes the truck top-heavier ..........................think about it :idea:

a better soulution is like a 2" custom backspaced wheel or a pair set of wheel spacers........................all in an effort to make the track width wider. ............thus more stable.


i guess the LINE is that if you are building your truck as a "wheeler only" then you can approach it one way....................purely functional.


BUT, if you still daily drive your rig, you will have to live with ultimately have to live w/ some of the inherent characteristics of the factory type body style. you CAN take steps to decrease the weight and tippy-ness, but not really eliminate it.

just by bolting up my other wheels to my trooper i increased the track width by i think 4". The tires are about as wide as the plastic part of the bumper. This not only helps whith stability but also helps you sling mud:cool:

Originally posted by douchebagkangaroo

buy a subaru chop the fenders and slap some 33's on there!!!!


heh.. a subie wagon on big* tires kinda looks like a rodeo.


*(by big I mean, big relative to stock :flipoff2: )

I went with 3 1/2" BS x 8" rims when I was IFS, and with 33"12.5/15's my track width increased 9" over stock and it made a huge difference. Barring SAS w/ wider axles, I think youre just going to have to deal with a tippy rig... I know I did. Its just another one of the many reasons to chop your rig:flipoff2: