Does anyone know where i can pick up some 5" springs? i would like some rovertym spring but i heard they stopped making them in the 5" height. i tried to email them but got no response i also did a search.

There is a place in Oregon that does, do a search for Disco on 37s and you'll find it.

Although seeing the disco in person makes me very scared of wheeling next to him, the springs are very very stiff and allow almost no flex.

Justin

I have the rovertym 5" springs and they lifted my RR Classic 6.5" :eek:

I am yet to fit a tube bar front and rear but hopefully that will bring it down a little bit :confused:

Why not use the 3" springs that are available just about everywhere (and in various spring rates) and use a 2" spacer under the lower spring perches?

I believe RT makes sweet spring spacers for the front that allow the shock to be mounted to the top of the spacer (thus not losing 2 more inches of extension due to the lift).

i thought about the 3" springs with 2" spacers but that limits me to just 5" of lift if i wanted to go bigger with the 5" springs then i could use spacers.

I think 5" of lift on a Disco is about all you would want to go. They get very unstable above the 4" mark unless you keep those sway bars connected.

Brad

Rovertym is expecting a shippment of 5 inch springs may 1st.
front springs are going to be 255 lb linear rate and the rears are going to be 330-360 progressive.

Drew

thanx for the info drew, do you know if they will be the new style of springs and also do you know the price?

yes they are going to be the new style of spring and they are going to be $380 for a set of four.

call Steve for more info thats all i know

Drew

i'm curious to see how these 5"+ trucks turn out - anyone else besides redrangie and billster running that much suspension lift?

Originally posted by SeaRover
i'm curious to see how these 5"+ trucks turn out - anyone else besides redrangie and billster running that much suspension lift?

Me too, i have 4" and mine is scary as hell on side tilts.

Originally posted by SeaRover
i'm curious to see how these 5"+ trucks turn out - anyone else besides redrangie and billster running that much suspension lift?

This summer I should be around 8-10" of total lift.

But I'm also compensating for the height change to keep the stance wide and COG low. I actually think my truck will be quite stable when it is done.

QUOTE]This summer I should be around 8-10" of total lift.[/QUOTE]

Total = tire height increase, suspension and body lift?

In that case i'm 3" (going to be 4" with the 37"s), 2.5" and 2", totalling 7.5" now, and 8.5" in June.

That said, I am also 8" wider now, and will be 10" wider in June...

I think a 5" suspension lift is NOT to be compred with a 3 SL + 2 BL...that is just more stable.

Why not go that route instead of the 5"ers?

Originally posted by DiscoDino
QUOTE]This summer I should be around 8-10" of total lift.

Total = tire height increase, suspension and body lift?

In that case i'm 3" (going to be 4" with the 37"s), 2.5" and 2", totalling 7.5" now, and 8.5" in June.

That said, I am also 8" wider now, and will be 10" wider in June...

I think a 5" suspension lift is NOT to be compred with a 3 SL + 2 BL...that is just more stable.

Why not go that route instead of the 5"ers? [/QUOTE]

uh oh! here we go again wiht the body lift??? (ducking!)
I've read a lot over the years about thesee...and though not on rover lists, I keep hearing of issues of stress-related damage to actual mounts or teh body cracking at teh mount as well..

The sawzall is your friend! stop lifting so much!
...but would my stock axles really last if I did stuff 35's in there! didn't think so...will stay below 34"

so for now at least, BL is not for me! I am pretty happy with the ride height at ~ 41" beltline with 255-85's not sure of what my lift really is inch-wise as never mesured the stock springs, but wouldn't want to go any higher as it is soooooo damn flexy on side tilts(or I think is is can't remember it's been soo long since I wheeled the damn thing!)

Paul

My apologies. I meant 2" Body + Suspension = 8-10"

About 15" of total lift

I'll also be about 16" wider too.. Maybe more.. my mind is shot tonight.

Well as I said already, my 6.5" lifted rangie was abit nerve rackin at first (and I am still sourcing wider stance) but its not that bad, I have 255/85 rubber under it and no body lift.

I would not reccomend goin higher than 5" lift in the springs and I am hopein that mine drops abit after abit more weight is added to each end.

Thing is with anything over 4" of lift on a range you need to get custom driveshafts and on a Disco you need a custom rear shaft to cope (the DC/CV front shaft should be ok upto 6" on a disco).

I've been running my stock rear driveshaft with 4" lift (rovertym 5" rear springs rear, 3" springs plus 1" spacer front) with no issues. The front DS is a DDC unit.

Madcowdungbeetle, How will you compensate to keep the COG low? Or was that a slip of the keyboard?

i'd like to see some pics of your rig beetle when you're finished. I plan on getting max offset wheels and maybe some wheel spacers. i would go with the 3" suspension and 2" body but i dont like how the body lifts leave gaps between you bumper.
http://68.49.112.94/blakeluse/Rover6.JPG

Bluewater, is that your truck??

No, thats not my truck. That is a pic my friend showed me of a body lift on a rover.

I didn't think so, I know the guy who owns that truck, and i was trying to make sure you and him weren't the same guy.

brad

Originally posted by Bush65
Madcowdungbeetle, How will you compensate to keep the COG low? Or was that a slip of the keyboard?

weight reduction, and some shifting around of some other heavy items.

you'll see:flipoff2: :D

i would go with the 3" suspension and 2" body but i dont like how the body lifts leave gaps between you bumper.

well if you expect to be a bolt-on bitch, then no. it will always look like shit :flipoff2:

whether by your own or paid-for skill have something created to match, and you can end up with a nice looking truck.

the 2"susp./2" bodylift and 35's have a lot of titles behind them on rangies in the rest of the world. IMO you can't argue with the success of the combo. lots of theory - but the titles to rainforest challenge, warn winch challenge, outback challenge all speak for themselves.

having said that, rovers have much more mass in the frame than a lot of other makes that typically run 5" or more lift - like unibody jeeps, or toyotas. personally i would go coilover before running that much big-spring, but i think it's really cool that someone is out there trying it! ;)

Originally posted by Bluewater
[Bi would go with the 3" suspension and 2" body but i dont like how the body lifts leave gaps between you bumper.
[/B]


Whats the problem?

Move them up then....:rolleyes:

I would get the same guy you are getting to do the body lift to lift your bumpers too...

:flipoff2:

Na i do my own work. i guess it's just personal preference on the body lift. as far as coil over go i thought about going that route but decided to try it this way instead because of the price difference.

well set up 5" are fine off road, no off camber issues with the right spring/suspension set-up.

However, if you don't re-invent the wheel so to speak, with shock placement, spring mounting and weight transfer, it will suck.

I can't wait for the 5" springs to come back. I have been running a band-aided solution in the rear for some time.

If you balance the travel, 50/50 up down, 5" rocks. If you leave it all droop, then you get tippy.

Originally posted by ROVER JUNKIE
Rovertym is expecting a shippment of 5 inch springs may 1st.
front springs are going to be 255 lb linear rate and the rears are going to be 330-360 progressive.

Drew
At these spring rates there is no chance in hell of getting 50% up / 50% down travel. These are touring rates, and stiff on the front at that.

Originally posted by Slunnie

At these spring rates there is no chance in hell of getting 50% up / 50% down travel. These are touring rates, and stiff on the front at that.

Your a newbie, so I will be nice, as you never really know who you are talking to over the web.

(I think 64rover even learned that.)

I have run a 280lb in the front, and and have run a 330 in the rear. I currently have 280 front(if I remember, they were custom), 300 rear (albeit progressive). Would you like to come across the pond and see 50/50 travel in the front? I can do 50/50 in the rear but I would have to strap it. Right now it is about 40/60 do to the shock placement and spring design. PM Way or Wilsby, as they have both wheeled with and in my truck, and have seen it work. In fact, Way's truck is a 50/50 truck as well, but he has a 3 link, and only runs 250lb in the front I think, maybe he will chime in. If you don't retain the springs in the rear, you will never see the front compress or droop right.

It's not so much spring rate that limits travel, in as much that the link and busing design have greater effects on this.

Ta RedRangie.

You've got it and getting 50/50, then I'm looking the dickhead. A good job getting 255/330-360lb/in flexing.

There here!

Got the first ones! Steve sent them to me on Monday, and I just got them in. I think they call them rr1-5's. Anyway, SUPER thick coils, progressive, and a 370# max rate. Well over 5" on fresh install. I am going to beat the pee out of them this weekend, and let everyone know.

I took them to my favorite urban ramp/wheeling space, and they worked well on forward and backward ramping. I then did a ledge/slope of about 60 degrees or more at about 40". Took the load well, without letting the fronts unload completely.

More to come...
j

thats good to hear tell me how they work out for you after you do some wheeling with them.

I took "reggie" up on a trail of fairly large moguls, (some around 40" deep) and twisted him up a bit. The new Rovertym springs worked well. VERY stable. They have more coils per inch and larger wire than the old style, which I think is what allows them to go full pack.

Oh, and yes they do stuff all they way, and this was with the truck empty of everything except a cooler and recovery gear. They seemed to have no problems stretching either, but time will tell on this.

I am more than pleased, and would recommend them.