: SR or Not (shackel reversal)


Greg82
04-05-2004, 10:22 PM
I have just been surfing the search engine for an hour and found some good advice, but I still can not decide.

I am putting a D60 dually front under my CJ I will be narrowing it to full width 67". The leaf springs are planned to remain on the same 28 inch center.

I can not decide what style front hanger to run and if I should do a SR. I will be running waggy front spring, but have considered XJ rears.

I am looking for about 5 inches more Wheel base from the front.

OK i know I am all over the place with this post.

Please shoot me your ideas.

THANX guys

JeepinDoug
04-05-2004, 11:01 PM
Your options are to post in N00b, use the SEARCH button or give up.
Take some pics of when you get that full 60 mounted with a 27.5" spring pad width, I'm sure others will love to see it.

bad80cj-7
04-05-2004, 11:15 PM
hahahahaha !

scope
04-06-2004, 04:43 AM
Holy crap! You're gonna look like a dumbass with the right wheel sticking out a foot or so. Which is fitting because from your question, you are a dumbass.

Start searching. Start with "full width axles" and "outboarding springs". If you must cut down the axle to the point where you don't have to outboard then you are an idiot; give the axle to a wheeler that can use it.

You are not gonna get five inches without relocating the steering box.

And your welcome:rolleyes:

blue p.o.s.
04-06-2004, 05:24 AM
Originally posted by Greg82
I will be narrowing it to full width 67".

:confused: how the hell you gonna narrow it to full width? full width means not narrowed jackass. kinda like saying i'm gonna take that slut's virginity after ya'll are done with your gang bang.

P&T Jeeps
04-06-2004, 06:05 AM
SRS is so '90's....:rolleyes:

Steve N
04-06-2004, 07:55 AM
Originally posted by blue p.o.s.


:confused: how the hell you gonna narrow it to full width? full width means not narrowed jackass. kinda like saying i'm gonna take that slut's virginity after ya'll are done with your gang bang.


:rolleyes:

:cow:

Greg82
04-06-2004, 08:36 AM
Hmm lets think about this you take a full width dually front. Thats 75 inches right?

O ya then you narrow that off the short side and the rest off the other side. Then you end up with a narrowed full width axles.

Hmm thanx for trying to understand.

Yes I will have a D60 narrowed full width running a CJ 28 inch center.

Guy I guess I should just ask " should I do an SR or not"

I try to post the pics when it's done so you guys can try understand

jcruiser70
04-06-2004, 12:14 PM
I'd go for the SR, just did it on my fj40, makes a nice difference in the ride quality. And it will keep you from bending leaf springs.

thundr undrgrond
04-06-2004, 02:04 PM
ok, im gonna be nice here... what the fork is the point of cuttin your axle tubes down to make up for the hubs.. get some different hubs man!!!! then your not gonna be startin out as such an ass wehn u tell someone that your making an 'narrowed full width rear' instead u can sound intelligent and say u converted your drw front 60 to srw. and while your at it, i hope u plan on runnin about a 6'' or so thick springpad on the drivers side, casue the only way i can see u keepin your narrow spring width is to put your pass side springpad on the diff itself. and then get some funky shaped u-bolts to fit it. to take that rear, and bolt in the pass side spring, then measure how much u need to cut off the long side so you have both sides stickin out the same, just cause ur too lazy to move your hangers is dumb. plus if you wanna do a shackle reverse and move your rear forward, then your already screwin with the hangers to begin with, why not just outboard while your at it, save the money on a custom axle, and get a set of srw hubs. or if your hardcore about usin those dually hubs, get some hummr rims, they make up for the extra hub.
another thing u need to consider with that idea, is that now your diff wilkl be mostly centered under the jeep, you create a whole new set of driveshaft problems with it on a multiple angle, and it migh cause clearance issues with crossmembers, oilpans...etc...


now stop thinking so far 'outside the box' and do what is proven to work!!!!

thundr undrgrond
04-06-2004, 02:17 PM
ok, just cause i was curious about this, and had to visualize it better, i took the ole measurin tape to my jeep with a 60 under it. a drw converted to srw one at that. first, u wont be able to cut enouhgt outta the short side to make up for the hub. so that means ur gonna be puttin the pig just about centered under that jeep. now i have a relitively large amount of lift, and a sbc and that puts my diff under the motor. fairly close to it at that. it also makes me not able to run a front shaft cause now the tranny itself is in the way of it. plus the multiple angles are horrible. im no pro here, but i think its time for u to rethink this whole thing out. lots of issues that u dont see goin to be created....

Greg82
04-07-2004, 08:32 AM
Ok first off the only reason to even consider the DRW hubs up front is because I am using hummer rims. I did not want the SRW hub sticking out into space.

I have done some measure under there, but I do not have the numbers with me. I will get some measurements and post back with a more complete plan.

Thanx for the input and sorry to have not thought this out more completly.

Greg82
04-08-2004, 07:43 PM
Ok I finally took those measurments again. And from what I see it should work.

A DWR d60 has WMS of about 75 inches and I want 67 therefore I need 8 off.

I am using stock CJ Front spring location that's 27 inches on center. So by leaving the fixed side of the DWR 60 as a starting point.

I came up with 20 inches outside of each spring pad. The numbers come out to 1.5 inches off the short side. ( Yes I realize that means I need a blank shaft because of the spline length). The remaining comes off the long side 6.5 inches to get the 8 required.

So now I will have a DRW d60 with a WMS of 67 inches and using the stock 27 inch center to center Cj springs.


Back to the SR I have done more searches and have decide to do the SR.

Thanx for input guys, and sorry I was not clear enough to being with.

teapot
04-08-2004, 08:19 PM
just do the sr you won't regret it

thundr undrgrond
04-12-2004, 10:28 PM
glad to see u did ur homework... it just seems like alot more work than needed,but who am i to judge. anyways, if your runnin any kind of arched springs the s/r is the only way to properly absorb bumps. however, dependin on how much actual flex ur suspention has, u may end up needin a long spline shaft... i did.

el ranger loco
04-12-2004, 10:48 PM
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