I was wondering if anyone knew the amount of lift that I will need to run 38x15.50 TSL Radials on my '93 TTB F-250. I was told that a 6" lift would be enough, but I'm afraid that the tires will rub on the trails. I'm currently running 33x12.50 BFG's with no problems, however, these tires are not a true 33" tall. If anyone has any suggestions I would greatly appreciate it.

-Woodrow

do yourself a favor and dont lift the ttb, find a dana 60 out of a similar year model f350 and swap it in, will cost a little more, but you will thank yourself in the long run.

actually, for the cost of alignments it would probly be cheaper to swap in the solid 60. it is a very easy swap from what i understand

wes

Yeah, I've heard that the swap wasnt that hard to do, but I have an issue of very little space to actually do the work. Plus, this truck is my daily driver (for now) and I'm not too concerned about the overall off-road capability of the truck. I've seen the swap kits for around $2,000, but I'm not sure if there is anything in the kit that I cant fabricate myself. Thanks for the advice though, it will definetly give me something to consider.

-Woodrow

^^^ What he said

the TTB 50 will be snapping stuff left & right with the larger tires you are talking about if you are doing any serious wheeling. if you are building a mall cruiser then your ok other than you will be eating tires left & right b/d the lifted TTB is usually a PIA to allign correctly hell it's hard enough finding someone who can actually allign a stock one well.

the D60 SAS Will be your friend though will be slightly more expensive to start out with but will pay for itself without question over the time you own the vehicle

but if you insist 6" should be enough though you may need to do a little fender trimming to make it not scrub @ full compression. but you will have to check this out. The lift MFR's have lists of what they know you can run w/ given lifts they are usually right on the money or may shy an inch to the conservative side

Want 38" tires and a locker on your full size rig sporting a TTB 44 ???


EASY just buy LOTS of these :rolleyes:

This is a year old picture, the collection has doubled since then. If not for the TTB you could get alloy axles and ox joints.. But alas NO alloy axles for the TTB 44, The u joint is the weak link...Good luck

Originally posted by Woodrow
and I'm not too concerned about the overall off-road capability of the truck.

if you don't care about how it off-roads...why spend all the money liffing the truck to get it on 38's? oh wait...you want your truck to look cool. fawking poser :rolleyes:

ttb front ends will break the shit out of axles once you put anything over a 35 on them. 38s good luck. ohh yeah your :rainbow: for posting a question like this on the pirate forum i thought posers/ pavement pounders didnt exist here. GO to a new forum and how about trying to use a search option because there are a bizzzzilion threads like this one with people wanting to know how much to lift to fit a certain tire. you might as well just buy a body lift and get some 35s

Ok, first of all, I never said that this truck is a street-only vehicle. I use this truck as much as possible, and enjoy 'wheeling it very much. However, the area that I live in is dominated by 4-wheelers and rail buggies. There are very few trails that I can actually fit my truck on as it is. The trails that are available are not difficult trails at all. So dont get me wrong, this truck is used for off-road purposes, but it spends most of its life on the street due to it being my daily driver. So no, I'm not a little preppy poser who just drives a big truck to look cool, and I'm not lifting it to make it that way. My only thing is that there are no hardcore trails in this area to take it on (as far as rocks go) and I plan on using it mostly in the mud and on regularly driven trails. I'm sorry if this does not match your idea of 4-wheeling, but the area that I live in is very different from the open country that most of you enjoy. I'm just trying to make the best out of what I have available, I'm sorry that you dont accept this.

-Woodrow

i still say do the 60. mud and ttb dont get along real well because the axleshafts are not in a sealed axle. if you look the beams have large cut-outs in them for the suspension travel, and the ujoints really dont like getting mud in them.

do the 60, it may cost a little more the first time, but you will not regret it in the end. even if its a ball joint 60, they are still so much better than the ttb, and will hold up to 38s much better than the ttb would.

wes

I'd also vote 60, even though there is no way to vote.. If I remember correctly.. with a leaf spring ttb, and a leaf srpung d60 of the same year, don't they pretty much bolt right up? same leaf spacing? Then get the f350 steering, and your done!

but hell, if all your doin is mud, the ttb will last for a bit.. if you don't put a locker in it.
I honestly didn't have a problem with mine in my ranger (d35 though) but it woulda cost just as much to refurb it with new bushings/bj's/steering/springs/shocks as I Have into the SAS. Of course I chose to upgrade rather than repair..

yes, it is a BOLT ON item. (the dana 60 from a similar year 350) any f350 from 87-97 i believe has the dana 60 you want. dont quote me on that though

wes

Originally posted by Woodrow
The trails that are available are not difficult trails at all.

if everything around you in not that difficult...then why do you need 38's? because of your first post the "poser" flag was raised. now that you have explained yourself a little, the flag is still raised. I'm not trying to bash or anything, just trying to understand the necessity of 38's if the trails aren't that hard.

Originally posted by RedNeckRea
because of your first post the "poser" flag was raised. now that you have explained yourself a little, the flag is still raised. I'm not trying to bash or anything, just trying to understand the necessity of 38's if the trails aren't that hard.

I love this site. :D Don't be silly and put a huge tire on your truck when the truck is not built to handle it. RedNeck said it all, if you don't have any serious offroad challenges then why bother with a big tire? Remember, when you snap axles and are stranded on the side of the road you embarass all the rest of us Ford owners. :flipoff2:

The main reason that I want the lift and tires is for additional ground clearance on the trails. True, they are not very difficult to traverse, but there are alot of ruts and jumps used by 4-wheelers that you have to go over to make it through some of the trails. I've got 3/4" skid plates covering the bottom of my truck, and I dont know of one of them that I havent used yet. And if the 60 is a true bolt on, then that is what I am going to do. I was just scared away from that when I saw the price of the conversions, and I figured that it was going to be a very difficult undertaking.

As far as the "poser" thing goes, none of you know me, and you dont know who or how I am. I'm not doing this for looks or popularity. This truck will eventually become a woods-only vehicle when I get enough money to put down on a newer F-250 for a daily driver. But for now it is serving as a dual-purpose rig. I grew up running trails with my dad, and now I do it in my own truck with the knowledge he shared with me. So I'm not just another young guy who lives in the suburbs and bought a big truck just to be cool. Take it as you will. I know how I am, and my friends know how I am. I have nothing to prove to any of you. I just had a question about MY truck and I wanted to ask people who knew the answer. Thanks to everyone who has helped me. As for the rest, I'm sorry for wasting your time.

-Woodrow

save the dd and spend the cash you woulda spent on the tires and lift on a dedicated off-road vehicle. If you don't fit on the trails get a smaller vehicle. Hell you got the tow rig, why ruin it?

dont get a kit for the dana 60 it is so much easier to find a dana 60 bj style for your type of truck for approximately 1000 bucks and it is as simple as unbolting your old ttb set up and bolting in that new straight axle dana 60. its so niiiiiiiice.
3/4 inch skid plate wow thats some serious amount of metal any pics?

Yea, but bj's suck.

Wait a minute, what am I saying!? :flipoff2:

Originally posted by lentzOUTLAWZ4x4
dont get a kit for the dana 60 it is so much easier to find a dana 60 bj style for your type of truck for approximately 1000 bucks and it is as simple as unbolting your old ttb set up and bolting in that new straight axle dana 60. its so niiiiiiiice.
3/4 inch skid plate wow thats some serious amount of metal any pics?



Yeah, those skidplates are pretty stout. It was originally a special order truck for AT&T. It has the skid plates, posi front and rear, and a few other things that I cant remember right now. And I would like to find a woods vehicle such as an older jeep or something along those lines, but there's nothin like running a full-size truck down the trails. My paint is shot from driving down 4-wheeler trails. I dunno, I just find enjoyment in taking up the entire trail with my truck, but maybe I'm a little off. And about the pics, I'm working on getting some on my computer, but for now i dont have any of it. I think I'm also going to do the d60 swap. If it's truly as easy as bolting in on, then that seems like the most logical thing to do. Thanks for the help guys.

-Woodrow

There are alot of trails near Chattanooga. So that excuse doesn't cut it.

I dont personally know of a great deal of trails near Chattanooga, but I havent been 'wheeling here for a very long time. I grew up in South Florida and that's where I've done more of it. I know of a few small places that are fun, but the trails are limited. There used to be a place called Mt. Etna, but they recently closed it down and patrol it regularly. There is also an ex-military ammuniton plant, but it is also closed to public use. I'm told that most of the trails at Tellico are too difficult for my truck, but I personally havent been there. If you know of any other places to go, I would really like to know about them.

-Woodrow