: Tundra
OffroadRunner 04-09-2004, 01:00 PM Anyone here tow with one. It would be my daily driver and tow rig. Keep in miind I am on the east caost so huge mountains are not a real concern. I work at a Toy dealer and we just got in a used 00, V8 4x4. I was going to wait to get the new 05 3/4ton, but this is a smoking deal. I dont think I can pass up. tired of the 89 Suburban.
Qustions is we have them in the shop all the time. But how well do they hold up towing 1-2 times a week. i even have a LSD new third sitting in my garage.
flimmy 04-09-2004, 01:32 PM Originally posted by OffroadRunner
Qustions is we have them in the shop all the time
The real ? is why do you have them in the shop all the time ? Are they in for stupid shit or for motor or tranny problems ?
Eskimo 04-09-2004, 01:34 PM twice a week? how heavy do you tow? if you're gonna haul a vehicle of any weight twice a week, I'd pass.
flimmy 04-09-2004, 01:34 PM opp's forgot to tell ya , why don't you just take your trailer w/rig on it to work and take it for a real test drive :D
OffroadRunner 04-09-2004, 01:44 PM Originally posted by flimmy
The real ? is why do you have them in the shop all the time ? Are they in for stupid shit or for motor or tranny problems ?
maint, brakes, oil changes..... i guess I did word that wrong. No major problems. I just look at them all day and I want one.
We have yet to have any enigne work not bad for being out for 4 years. Have had a few trannies, and xfer cases. but they are rare.
OffroadRunner 04-09-2004, 01:45 PM Originally posted by flimmy
opp's forgot to tell ya , why don't you just take your trailer w/rig on it to work and take it for a real test drive :D
i thought about that but the wiring is different. the thought did cross my mind. Either way I am taking it home tonight just to see if my wife wil even let me buy it..... :eek:
brett 04-09-2004, 01:46 PM I've got a 2000 Tundra V8 and have towed with it, but it's not great. It's got plenty of power but I don't think the tranny would hold up.
I avoid towing with it, if at all possible. It's just not heavy duty enough IMO.
OffroadRunner 04-09-2004, 01:51 PM Originally posted by Eskimo
twice a week? how heavy do you tow? if you're gonna haul a vehicle of any weight twice a week, I'd pass.
83 toy, toy axles, 38 TSL's, yadda yadda yadda lighter then most trail rigs for sure. stripped down to bare necessities. Trailer does have electric brakes.
I have towed with the boss's demo. (same truck) but was wondering more about longevity (sp) all the people around here use them more like a car. yuppy bastards. I have yet to see one that looks like the hitch has even been used. So i am asking the P.O.R. gurus.
OffroadRunner 04-09-2004, 01:54 PM Originally posted by brett
I've got a 2000 Tundra V8 and have towed with it, but it's not great. It's got plenty of power but I don't think the tranny would hold up.
I avoid towing with it, if at all possible. It's just not heavy duty enough IMO.
so what do you tow with???????
thats what I was thinking but they do come with a class 4 hitch.
has anyone had any problems I havent heard of any tranny problems with them.
brett 04-09-2004, 02:00 PM I use the 'burb or the MH. Usually the MH because my trailer is already hooked up and I like to drive it in between trips.
My Jeep and trailer are pretty heavy, but it does nice for flat towing, although it's not very heavy and tends to get pushed in the corners. I did flat tow my sons toy from CO Springs to San Diego and it did fine.
I do like the truck but it's just not the same as a big truck.
Originally posted by OffroadRunner
so what do you tow with???????
thats what I was thinking but they do come with a class 4 hitch.
has anyone had any problems I havent heard of any tranny problems with them.
GearMan 04-11-2004, 10:32 AM i had one and didnt like the fact it would get squirly when towing over 4500 lbs so i sold it and bought a cummins 3/4 ton at a min. if doing moderate to heavy towing is a must and a full float axle is a must when considering vehical for towing
MikeW 04-11-2004, 04:16 PM Saw this on a website
Quote:the prerunner weighs in at 3250, and the trailer at about 1500. that is a combined weight of 4750, and the tundra was on the rear bumpstops.
GearMan 04-11-2004, 06:19 PM Originally posted by MikeW
Saw this on a website
Quote:the prerunner weighs in at 3250, and the trailer at about 1500. that is a combined weight of 4750, and the tundra was on the rear bumpstops. thats what i looked like going down the road
whitefish 04-12-2004, 06:20 AM Everyone I've met with a Tundra says they're nice for driving around town, but put a full load in the bed or a decent sized trailer behind it and you'll want to puke.
That, and their trailer-ratings per pound aren't much better than a freaking 4.0 ranger.
OffroadRunner 04-12-2004, 07:41 AM Class IV hitch rated at 720 tongue weight. 7200 GTW......
Josh83 04-12-2004, 08:24 AM Originally posted by MikeW
Saw this on a website
Quote:the prerunner weighs in at 3250, and the trailer at about 1500. that is a combined weight of 4750, and the tundra was on the rear bumpstops.
The trailer doesn't exactly look properly loaded.
crashinaz 04-12-2004, 08:56 AM In the picture above, they might as well have dropped the tailgate and driven into the bed. Loading the trailer properly when towing with a 1/2 ton is a BIG factor... It's actually a big factor with any vehicle, the effects are just magnified with the 1/2's lighter duty running gear. I had to back on when towing with my old Z71, otherwise the back tires were dangling off of the back of the trailer. Bertha tows his 2nd gen 4Runner complete with 38's, tons of tools, and so on with a Tundra. Last time we went wheelin' I figured I'd be a smartass when we got on the on-ramp and show him a little CTD superiority :D... I rolled on the boost and of course left him behind, but after settling down he had no problem hanging with me at 70mph on the flat Phoenix freeways. Would it have been the same story in the mountains? No. Was I impressed with the little Tundra? Yep.
OffroadRunner 04-12-2004, 10:20 AM Originally posted by crashinaz
In the picture above, they might as well have dropped the tailgate and driven into the bed. Loading the trailer properly when towing with a 1/2 ton is a BIG factor... It's actually a big factor with any vehicle, the effects are just magnified with the 1/2's lighter duty running gear. I had to back on when towing with my old Z71, otherwise the back tires were dangling off of the back of the trailer. Bertha tows his 2nd gen 4Runner complete with 38's, tons of tools, and so on with a Tundra. Last time we went wheelin' I figured I'd be a smartass when we got on the on-ramp and show him a little CTD superiority :D... I rolled on the boost and of course left him behind, but after settling down he had no problem hanging with me at 70mph on the flat Phoenix freeways. Would it have been the same story in the mountains? No. Was I impressed with the little Tundra? Yep.
Even with a 3/4 ton Suburban. I ahve just enough room to get the back tires on the dove tail of the trailer. If I am towing long distance I back my rig on the trailer.
I have always heard %10 total trailer weight on the tongue. The Tundra pictured above is a good example of how NOT to load your trailer.
crashinaz 04-12-2004, 03:12 PM Here's what Sam (Bertha) said... The reference he make's to "mine" and "hers" is regarding an extended cab vs. a double cab...
First thing I will say is mine tows much better (IMO) to hers becasue of the added wheelbase. It feels much more stable but he power of course is the same.
Cons: I wish it had more power. It does fine and can tow easily at 75 with no probs except it has to downshift on steep grades (I know most do but you tend to feel it more with this engine). Btw, they will be coming out with one in the 300+hp range this year i was told.
I really haven't found another con yet, it's roomy, quiet on the road, suspension seems to be dialed in just right. I guess those are pros but I like it alot and the first thing I will do here soon is add the TB spacer and then the chip to get me about 290+hp.
Hope this helps with your decision.
CanuckJeeper 04-13-2004, 07:09 AM Originally posted by OffroadRunner
I have always heard %10 total trailer weight on the tongue. The Tundra pictured above is a good example of how NOT to load your trailer.
While I agree that the Toyota up there is not loaded properly, it sure beats having it the other way around.
I'd MUCH rather have too much tongue weight than too little. Of course, perfect 10% tongue weight is what I try to achieve... :D
JP
Lowtorious 04-13-2004, 08:21 AM What's wrong with the Burb, seriously?
Spank 04-13-2004, 04:28 PM May sell the g/f's XJ and buy a tow rig. Considering a Tundra. I've driven a lot of them (worked for a dealer) but have zero towing experience.
What is the tow rating for a v8 tundra? I think I saw 7500 above somewhere?
I'm curious about the transmission strength also. Anyone else with personal experience?
whitefish 04-13-2004, 07:44 PM Originally posted by Spank
What is the tow rating for a v8 tundra? I think I saw 7500 above somewhere?
7100 at best configuration.
Chister 04-13-2004, 09:58 PM I have an 02 Tundra.. (THAT I WANT TO SELL AND BUY A SUBURBAN.. HINT HINT....)
I love it. I dont want to get rid of it. I hate to get rid of it. but I have to get rid of it.
Anyway... I pull a 87 4runner on an all steel-diamondplate decked carhauler trailer and i also load a 4x4 ATV on the front as well as a ATV in the bed.
I actually have to load it with the rear tires just barely on the trailer to balance everything out properly, but it drives great. It tows at 70mph over rolling hills with no problem.
I also have been doing a side job doing deliveries for the past year. I load up a full 14 foot trailer with full kegs for delivery to dry precincts (Wonderful TABC ya know)....
It pulls great and handles great. I put new tires on it just yesterday , the OEM tires lasted 32k miles and wore very evenly. It handles Great in teh snow and on the ice in the winter and the stability is great in the snow and ice.
SO.... if you want to buy my truck.. :D :D
Clicky the linky below. I'm hot to deal. I just want to get my loan payoff for it.
whthilux 04-13-2004, 11:09 PM just like ford has sterling doesnt toyota have a big truck division.I saw abig flat bed diesel it said hino or hilo something like that are those made by toyota.
Originally posted by Spank
What is the tow rating for a v8 tundra?
Who cares? I personally couldn't be paid enough to drive any of the "1/2 ton" trucks available today at their max "tow rating". They're all grossly over-rated by at least 2,000 lb. The F150 is "rated" within 100 lbs of what my 2500HD is "rated". Are they that close? I don't fawkin' think so.
Bottom line is that 1/2 tons in their best form are "marginal" tow rigs best suited to folks who only tow light loads & then not on a regular basis. And the Tundra is "marginal" as a 1/2 ton, being much softer than GM, Ford, or Dodge (Probably Nissan too). Would I be willing to tow a 3,500lb rig on a 16' trailer behind one? Yeah, if that's all I had available. Would I BUY one with towing that in mind? No.
TEX
OffroadRunner 04-14-2004, 02:10 PM Originally posted by Chister
I have an 02 Tundra.. (THAT I WANT TO SELL AND BUY A SUBURBAN.. HINT HINT....)
I love it. I dont want to get rid of it. I hate to get rid of it. but I have to get rid of it.
Anyway... I pull a 87 4runner on an all steel-diamondplate decked carhauler trailer and i also load a 4x4 ATV on the front as well as a ATV in the bed.
I actually have to load it with the rear tires just barely on the trailer to balance everything out properly, but it drives great. It tows at 70mph over rolling hills with no problem.
I also have been doing a side job doing deliveries for the past year. I load up a full 14 foot trailer with full kegs for delivery to dry precincts (Wonderful TABC ya know)....
It pulls great and handles great. I put new tires on it just yesterday , the OEM tires lasted 32k miles and wore very evenly. It handles Great in teh snow and on the ice in the winter and the stability is great in the snow and ice.
SO.... if you want to buy my truck.. :D :D
Clicky the linky below. I'm hot to deal. I just want to get my loan payoff for it.
Dude sweet truck.
I hate to say it but the pay off is pretty high and its black. I can get one brand new for 2k more..:flipoof2:.... I work for a dealer and get a sweet deal. The problem is Toyotas have a resale value throught the roof. I am sure you are gong to sell it but right now its not what I am looking for.
mucknet 04-14-2004, 05:41 PM Well I own a tundra, and haven't towed with it.. but I will be!
I'll be pulling my 4.0 TJ, with 60/14/39.5 IROK's.
I'll let you know how it goes ;)
If its miserable, I'll be in the market for a 1 ton diesel.. :)
I know OPP's tows with one. Has airbags rear for leveling, tows a toyota thats pretty heavy (5kish).
wes8517 04-19-2004, 03:41 PM http://www.tundrasolutions.com/photopost/data/500/151MVC-008S.JPG
http://www.tundrasolutions.com/photopost/data/500/151MVC-009S.JPG
this is what has swayed me to just keep my tundra, so i can finally buy myself a trail rig. this guy tows his desert truck which weighs about 4000 lb. on a trailer that weighs about 1750 lb. i have talkt to him a few times and he said that he does not currently have rear airbags on the tundra tow rig, but is going to add them. he said the best mod he did for towing was an upgraded rear swaybar from hellwig. he said that both trailer axles have brakes and that despite the lack of power it tows quite well. just thought id add this to the thread
wes
OffroadRunner 04-19-2004, 05:54 PM http://www.tundrasolutions.com/photopost/data/500/151MVC-008S.JPG
http://www.tundrasolutions.com/photopost/data/500/151MVC-009S.JPG
this is what has swayed me to just keep my tundra, so i can finally buy myself a trail rig. this guy tows his desert truck which weighs about 4000 lb. on a trailer that weighs about 1750 lb. i have talkt to him a few times and he said that he does not currently have rear airbags on the tundra tow rig, but is going to add them. he said the best mod he did for towing was an upgraded rear swaybar from hellwig. he said that both trailer axles have brakes and that despite the lack of power it tows quite well. just thought id add this to the thread
wes
Dude all got I got say is SWEET fawkin setup. It neeeds bags in the rear for sure, but damn someones got some $$$$$ to play with
jasonmt 04-19-2004, 07:00 PM just like ford has sterling doesnt toyota have a big truck division.I saw abig flat bed diesel it said hino or hilo something like that are those made by toyota.
Hino is Toyotas commercial truck division. We have a Hino FD that we use for a service truck that drives very nicely and is reasonably fuel efficient.
http://media.canadatrader.com/canadatrader/404/1414/1/01006.jpg
Eskimo 04-19-2004, 08:33 PM Is it just me, or is the bed to cab relationship different at the top of the bed vs. the bottom on the black Tundra towing the desert truck? Looks like the frame is bending... :eek:
wes8517 04-19-2004, 09:23 PM Dude all got I got say is SWEET fawkin setup. It neeeds bags in the rear for sure, but damn someones got some $$$$$ to play with
ya, the front of the tow rig also now has a long travel kit, he has more money then i do
and eskimo, the first pic it does appear that way, i think its just the pic, the 2nd throws that out the window though. i have put a 7500 pound trailer behind my tundra with about 1000 for the tongue weight (cattle trailer), and it didnt do that, just squat almost to the bumpstops, was only loaded this way and driven this way for approx. 2 miles
wes
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