Yes I searched for balance and ballance and then tires. Got some feedback on tires. I knw all this shit has been beet to the fawkin ground. What happened to the old search engine?
ANYWAYS!!!
Got some 40-17-15 hawgs on a steel 10wide rim. I hand mounted these SOB's and got bored and threw them back on my toyota. well they are so cold and out of ballace that they shake like hell at 35mph. What can I do to ballance these beasts? I need to drive to the trail. I am not going to dismount the tires without hydrolic assistance. I also am poor and interested in what I can put in to balance these tires. Preferably through the vave stem. Obviosly not equal. heard of sand,BB's, and golfballs. and thing else of true working deals? can a rig shop just ballance for say 6 bucks a tire?

the tire balancing machine at my local tire store takes up to 44"ers

on the bigger tires I have always done them with a buble balencer , and stick on weights . I use the real thin stickon weights to get it perfect and then lightly smear silicon over the top of them this waterproofs , and prevents the weights from coming off. Heck when you go to take them off youll have to pry them off with a screw driver they stick that good. I usually get out for aroun 5 dollars worth of weights and always ride like a caddy!

Skyetone,
Ya got a pretty damn bouncy ride, huh? I used to work with tires for semis and other heavy equipment and we used this really cool stuff called Equal. It looks like sand.....really. It has to be added thuu the stem with a 'special' machine or it won't work properly (So the Rep says), not just tossed into the tire by hand. The cool thing about Equal, is that its always adjusting to your tires being off balance, not like regular lead weights that are permanent, till you rebalance your tires. Any shop that services Big Rigs should be able to put this stuff in for you, but I was working for Jacks Tire & Oil. Call them and look into it. We had Truck Drivers that would swear by this stuff, and didn't want their tires balanced any other way. Let me know if you go this route, and how well it works.

Good luck keeping those piece of shit tires balanced! I had a chevy with 44 ground hawgs and after spending $100 and two hours at the tire shop the tires stayed balaced for a total of two days!!! They were by far the worst riding tire I have ever experienced. They wore like iron and rode like it too!!! Although I hear great things abouth that equal stuff that balances internally. Oh yeah, and it was kinda spooky for everyone watching me rev at 8,000 rpm through the mud pit. WHy you ask? Maybe in fear of part of the 64 ounces of lead on each tire waiting to be thrown off their way. My advice= save the money and don't worry about it cause they will never ride good and won't stay that way even if they did!

64 ounces of lead!!!! [size]HOLY SHIT[/size5] How many ounces in a pound :D
Some say equal is garbage. did a search on that. The hawgs are free to me temporarily. Mostly just screw off tires. 40 swamps I may get concerned about. I just want to be able to go to the local pit and raise hell without having to brake out the floor jack and 300 pounds of tires and changing there ya know. I may try the truckstop and see what they got to say. Isn't that on like 2100 and 700w ish? Gotta go to alignment specialists soon anyways. What about water? It's so cold it would almost freeze in the right spot :D

I tried equal, didn't make much difference. Plus the stuff blows out when you air down. Sure, you can put their little filters on the stems, but then it takes all day to air down a big tire. I think I'm gonna try BBs.

Pete

If you are going to put golfballs in them thru the valve stem please do a writeup and take pics. :D :evil:

Originally posted by Skyetone

Got some 40-17-15 hawgs on a steel 10wide rim. Preferably through the vave stem. Obviosly not equal. heard of sand,BB's, and golfballs.

No I cannot get a golfball through a garden hose let alone a friggin valve stem!! I just heard of this as an option.

Another thing I have heard about the equal is that if you get ANY moisture in there it starts to clump and no longer works...so if you are airing up and down at the trail equal prolly won't work to well...I have heard of people using 20 ozs of anti-freeze...it won't hurt the tire considering it doesn't hurt the heater hoses...it is corrosive but only on metals...if you try it let us know how it works...I think the real problem with balancing them on a machine is that you have the problem of them lop siding by sitting and then your trying to balance a tire that really isn't lop sided...did that make any sence???:D

Originally posted by Skyetone
No I cannot get a golfball through a garden hose let alone a friggin valve stem!! I just heard of this as an option.

Oh man you can't...shoot I was hoping for a write-up on it:D:D:D

Like said before, they're gonna ride like crap no matter what you do. If you want to do the cheapest thing, go down to Play it again and buy some range golfballs. Go to the tire place and have them spin the tires and tell you how much weight they're off on each tire. They're probably so out of round it's laughable too. Take whatever the weight they're off, and divide it by four. 16 oz = 1 lb..
Example, if your tires are off by 20 oz. of weight, divide it by 4 and add you come up with 5. Put in 5 golf balls. Each ball weighs 1.9 oz +/- a tenth of an ounce. Seems to work pretty good, once you get the tires warm, but when they're cold it won't matter. I used to have the death wobble at 55 mph with my 38 SX's. It would make you put on the brakes and slow down it was so scary. My rear's were incredibly out of round and about 24 oz's out. I added 6 golf balls to each rear tire and I could cruise 65-70 depending on the terrain (4 banger limited).
Try it. For as little it'll cost you, it's worth it. Don't waste you money on Equal, weights, etc., you'll never get it right with those POS tires. The golf balls just might make it livable. You won't hear them rolling around too bad, just at less than 1 mph and you have to really listen.
P.S. You need a spell checker!!:flipoff2:

Spell check blows!!! :flipoff2:
I duno but the golf balls souns appealing. Maybee I'll talk to 4WP and see if they will let me dick around with there machine. How do youwarm up a 17 wide bias tire in winter? Like I got 5 hours to let it sit in the garage to get warm only to jump on the road and have them cool half way off in 30 yards. Man maybee I'll get the 35 boggers instead :D buy some 38's later and make them deal with the ballancing :D

If you wanna warm up the tires just air em down to about 3-4 psi and drive down to the tire store. They'll be plenty warm by the time you get there, no matter how cold it is outside.

never mind

To get them warm, just drive. Go on the freeway, or any faster road for about 20-30 min and they should get very hot. :rolleyes:

My 44's will get pretty hot, even if the roads are icy.

this thread is 3 years old...way to bring it back to the top...

Dam, I didn't even notice that!! Well hopefully the guy got his tires balanced by now.

this thread is 3 years old...way to bring it back to the top...

this is what happens when people search, instead of just posting a new thread, like people get flamed for all the time. :flipoff: Damn cant win for lossen. and I aint talken about warming up I am talking about bb balancing.

hehe. When I mentioned warming up the tires, It was because several people mentioned it above. It had nothing to do with what you said. I also posted that before realizeing how old the thread is and that he probably figured it out by now (hopefully).

And you wonder why you get flamed when you post new topics :shaking:

then I will start a new thread. thanks

I have a spare full floater rear end, took out the seal, and axle, cleaned all the oil from the bearings so it spins free, mounted my 44"tsl`s on and spun them/ marked the heavy spot over and over till I was shure where they were heavy and then added sticky weights till they were good enough..60 something oz on one. the rest were all under 30 or 40 oz`s went from having the death wobble at 65-80kmh to absolutly no shakes at all, I had only 3.55 gears with those 44`s till 2 weeks ago, and had my truck to 185kmh on the Coquihalla, with no shakes , and with those gears my happy cruise is 125-130. All it cost me was 35 bucks and a few hrs time, now all`s still fine after 6-8 months of everyday driving, exept for spinning a rim in the tire, I have to redoo that one........this was before the ram assist

I have a spare full floater rear end, took out the seal, and axle, cleaned all the oil from the bearings so it spins free, mounted my 44"tsl`s on and spun them/ marked the heavy spot over and over till I was shure where they were heavy and then added sticky weights till they were good enough..60 something oz on one. the rest were all under 30 or 40 oz`s went from having the death wobble at 65-80kmh to absolutly no shakes at all, I had only 3.55 gears with those 44`s till 2 weeks ago, and had my truck to 185kmh on the Coquihalla, with no shakes , and with those gears my happy cruise is 125-130. All it cost me was 35 bucks and a few hrs time, now all`s still fine after 6-8 months of everyday driving, exept for spinning a rim in the tire, I have to redoo that one........this was before the ram assist


problem with mounted weights is that the tire spins in the rim, so after a few wheeling trips u'd be out of balance.

Usually they do better with no weights at all.
I have balanced them the best I could, they were all right for a while and then got worse.
Ended up pulling all weights off and living with football shaped tires.

www.centramatic.com
Has a plate of weights that rides behind your wheel.
Putem on my toyota and helps balance them as you drive

yah I know the balance changes with rim slip and wear, but for 35 bucks few few months of smooth ride was worth it, and im poor. I need to do that 1 again, so i`ll do em all and have a few more months or till I sell the truck, 35 bucks for all 4 shure beats the 50 $ each the shops want, that still only lasts a while

No I cannot get a golfball through a garden hose let alone a friggin valve stem!! I just heard of this as an option.


I knew this girl one time, though, as the rumor goes, she could. I'll see if I can get pics and do a write up :flipoff2:

Check out http://www.innovativebalancing.com/