So, how about attaching a set of hinges on the right and bottom with removable pins? You simply install the appropriate pair for the application.

Cables will be detachable and connected to the inside (not visible on the outside when used).

Chop off the top of a (steel) door and hinge it like the fiberglass.

Any thoughts? Seems pretty useful.

The best solution I've seen is on Ike's 88". It is essentially making the rear door like the front doors in that the top is removable.

-Jeff


Ike...any pics?

There are several different way to make a split rear door. Its hard to determine what you are suggesting there, but hinging the top of a sawed rear door to swing upwards like the POE hardtops or the fiberglass hardtops seems like a pain in the ass. Liftgates in general are a pain in the ass. It takes twice as long to get in the back of your truck! I have a split rear door on the back of my 59 SII as Jeff mentioned. Its a door sawed in half that now bolts together. It operates as a normal swinging door, but is removeable if need be. Its really just a pain in the ass but less than a liftgate. The Santanas also had split rear doors, if you are interested check those out.
-Regards
-Ike

What I'm shooting for is a liftgate with a half top from a metal door, hinged on the top like the fiberglass ones.. In ordinary use the liftgate will swing to the right with those hinges, after the top is swung up. When I need to haul something long I would put pins on two bottom hinges and remove the side hinges, allowing the liftgate to swing down.

At the moment my RR LWB is in the middle of a conversion to non-ABS so I miss the room in the back. Of course,recently I also needed to haul that big thing!

Yes, it is a pain but if I need to haul that big thing once in a while I'd be able to do it.

What I'm shooting for is a liftgate . . . hinged on the top like the fiberglass ones.. .will swing to the right with those hinges . . . ., allowing the liftgate to swing down.
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So you want it to swing up, to the left and down? Or are you getting liftgate and tailgate mixed up in there? Why not use the factory metal liftgate and hinges? If you are going to haul large stuff it might be easier to just get a trailer. :flipoff2:

-Regards
-Ike

I want a setup like the D90 ST's but for the liftgate (the lower part) to ALSO swing up/down like in a Series truck.

The tailgate (upper) part will be a chopped SW door.

I mixed up tail/lift-gates I guess No room in the driveway for a trailer.

Why are you stuck on using half a SW door for the top? You will have to make up some bracketry but you might be able to use the stock hinges that the factory liftgate swings on. Seems like it would be easier to use the factory liftgate. As for the drop down gate you will have to weld tabs on your frame for the lower hinges as the NAS 90s dont come with them. Hell just sell that coilsprung junk and get a series with the liftgate tailgate setup. You'll be money ahead too!
-Ike

Methinks the ArtM is bent on making more work for himself than is necessary. A rear tailgate/liftgate setup with the complexity and operating tendencies of a Rubik's Cube is excessive...

Ike,

Isn't the factory liftgate fiberglass only? I want steel. As it happens I have a 72 S3 88 but that will have to be sold - too much time needed to tinker and support it, time I don't have. Plus, having a D90 has spoiled me and I can't go back to lthe Series. Whatever time I do have will be devoted to a 110 buildup - gotta move forward, Ike!

64rovr,

I am only going overboard here because, as I noted, my LWB is out of use at the moment and I need to haul some big stuff. Once that's back in action I'm sure I'll abandon my Rubik's Cube pipe dream!

By the way, how about also making the liftgate dual position?

Art, have I ever met you before at any of the rallies or anything in this area? I'm drawing a blank.

Ike,

Isn't the factory liftgate fiberglass only? I want steel. As it happens I have a 72 S3 88 but that will have to be sold - too much time needed to tinker and support it, time I don't have. Plus, having a D90 has spoiled me and I can't go back to lthe Series. Whatever time I do have will be devoted to a 110 buildup - gotta move forward, Ike!

64rovr,

I am only going overboard here because, as I noted, my LWB is out of use at the moment and I need to haul some big stuff. Once that's back in action I'm sure I'll abandon my Rubik's Cube pipe dream!

By the way, how about also making the liftgate dual position?

I will trade you a trailer for your series III you ninkompoop. After the series is gone you can park the trailer in your drive and quit redesigning the wheel in a square form.

But dam boy I like your style telling the series boys to move forward when you are asking their advise. Gutsy. I see a barbecue coming on.

Seeking new friends, any takers
Jim Pendleton

I will trade you a trailer for your series III you ninkompoop. After the series is gone you can park the trailer in your drive and quit redesigning the wheel in a square form.


Jim -You beat me to it, that was pretty funny.

Art- You have time to fabricate some goofy rear gate setup and build an entire 110, but no time to keep a series running? Yes the factory offers a metal (aluminum and steel) liftgate for defenders. It was used on the North American Spec POE or Port of Entry hardtop 90s, its also used on many trucks in the rest of the world. Its pretty much the same gate thats been in production since 1958. However, Since you seem hellbent on wasting money and wasting time I would suggest starting with a side door or maybe a hood and go from there.

-Regards
-Ike

Guys, guys...

I ASSUMED there was not a metal liftgate since I was in NAS thinkin' mode. Yes, now I see I am an ASS on this. Do you honestly think I'd take the option to "redesign the wheel" if I didn't have to???

I now see ECR has a writeup on this POE setup. OK, so half the problem solved. Now, it's only a matter of welding on lower hinges and making all four of them removable. Surely this isn't a monumental job!

Ike,

If it were just a matter of "keeping a Series running" then I can manage that. But it's been plenty more. Let's face it , a Series needs constant attention. I'd rather make do without all the aggravation and spend my money where it counts.

Yes, yes I fell in love with these when I first got into it but, again, after getting the D90 I am finally in Series heaven - it's what a Series should be in today's world. It is my daily driver - I can't do that in a Series.

Art, are you a 6-foot-7, one-legged, wet noodle-armed pansy?

Let me check...No, three legs. I' m just a 42 year old, regular guy who's had his fill of Series headaches. Time to start enjoying the rest of my Rover life in peace and less stress.

Peace and less stress? Wait until you start having some electrical issues with that Range Rover :eek:

Art, are you a 6-foot-7, one-legged, wet noodle-armed pansy?

No, but he plays on on TV.

Hehe! This thread is the most I've laughed in a long time.

:flipoff2:

Seeking new friends, any takers
Jim Pendleton

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Now if you are into the cheap/easy one night stand......DieLucas is you man! :flipoff2:

-Jeff

How much are you willing to pay? If you are interested in quality & long term it'll be pricy, but worth it.

Now if you are into the cheap/easy one night stand......DieLucas is you man! :flipoff2:

-Jeff

Thanks for the info. Like everyone here on PBB I will try Lucas first, and beg for you later.

Actualy Katrina is my choice.

JP