: Buying a Land Rover


Rock Solid
04-25-2004, 06:55 PM
I am considering purchasing a 1965 Land Rover series 2A. The seller is asking 4500.00 but I need some opinions from land rover owners about whether or not that price is too steep. The Land Rover has a rebuilt ebngine w/ only 2000 miles on it. However, underneath the cars shows alot of rust there are alot of scratches in the paint. I know nothing about Land Rovers so I need some insight here. Please help out a fellow offroader. Thanks.
-Dan

64rovr
04-25-2004, 07:00 PM
Your name is suiting.

It took me 5 seconds using Google, search for "Buying a Series Land Rover"

http://www.fourfold.org/LR_FAQ/Series/FAQ.S.look_for.html

First link that came up. Do your parents still spoon-feed you?

Rock Solid
04-25-2004, 07:13 PM
Thanks for the site, it was really helpful. However, you don't have to be such a fucking asshole. I was just trying to get some information about something I know nothing about from the people I assumed would know the most about them.
-Dan

64rovr
04-25-2004, 07:23 PM
You're welcome :flipoff2:

pendy
04-25-2004, 08:41 PM
Thanks for the site, it was really helpful. However, you don't have to be such a fucking asshole. I was just trying to get some information about something I know nothing about from the people I assumed would know the most about them.
-Dan


:shaking: :shaking: :shaking:

Newbie. We like specific questions. If you do a search and run the vehicle over for obvious problems then report back with real questions instead of time wasters, maybe you will gain some respect and get some feedback.

We get tired of wiping ass for people that do not contribute or participate only for their needs with open ended requests. farkng aholes that we are.

What kind of rust are you seeing. A series rover is worth probably 800 to 14000. Based on the information you gave us how can we determine your truck?

Anyway welcome to your worst nightmare. Land Rover owners on Pirate.

JP

Leafsprung
04-25-2004, 08:58 PM
Dan,
Dont get your panties in a bunch. Theres an expectation here that you will do a little leg work on your own before asking questions. If the rust on the frame is surface rust, its probably not a bad deal. If there are holes, its probably not so much of a bargain. Good luck with your purchase, feel free to PM me if you are loking for some pointers.
-Regards
-Ike

Old Scout
04-25-2004, 09:05 PM
However, you don't have to be such a fucking asshole.
-Dan


Try not to be such a noob and we will play nice.

DieLucas!
04-25-2004, 09:38 PM
Try not to be such a noob and we will play nice.

No we won't. You're damned if you do, damned if you don't.
Welcome to the dark side, bitch!

Serious One
04-26-2004, 12:11 AM
A series rover is worth probably 800 to 14000.

Maybe more...maybe less.

It's kind of like saying, "I'm looking at buying an engagement ring, but I'm not sure if the diamonds are real or not, can you tell me what it's worth if it's 1/2 inch across and 1/4 inch tall?"

Pictures of the truck, and especially the rusty areas would help the most. There's probably someone on here that might even be familiar with the exact truck you're looking at (possibly might have even owned it at one point).

Anyway, a little leg-work will get you far here. But, I think you've pretty much figured that out by now.

m016324
04-26-2004, 06:04 AM
Adam I concur
Dumb Ass Newbie

give us some better info

ben

Simon
04-26-2004, 08:39 AM
Look for penetrating rust on the firewall and the frame. Check the footwells and the door posts carefully. Check the frame outriggers, especially at the lowest points, where they meet the frame and around the fuel tank. If there are rust holes or deep, flaky rust, don't pay more than you think the rig is worth knowing you will have to repair or replace both the frame and firewall. A rebuilt engine is nice, but engines for series rovers are (comparatively) easy to replace or rebuild. I am a noob too, but I have had my 109 since January 2000, and recently bought a 65 88 that I went over for similar issues last spring. The 88 had surface rust on the firewall and frame, but no flaky rust. You may know this, but the best way to check the frame and firewall out is with a heavy screwdriver and a hammer. Poke around with the screwdriver and use the hammer to bang on suspect spots of the frame. If you hear a "thud" instead of a ringing bang when you whack the frame run away. If the screwdriver penetrates the frame or the firewall, run away. If the owner objects to your whacking away at the frame and poking the firewall, run away. You will have to get dirty. Bring a flashlight when you go to do this.

Like any other used car, look to see if the owner has tarted the thing up. Is there paint over the rust? Look for evidence of bondo repairs to the firewall and frame. I've seen that before. Also look for rust patches on the frame. Any patching is a good sign the rest of the frame is not far behind in terms of needing repair or replacement.

Don't worry about rust in the doorframes.

Feel free to PM me if you have questions. I'll be sitting in front of the computer all day today, and PBB helps me maintain my sanity.

I'd also ask the woner how long he has had the rig, and ask him for details on the rig. Then, verify. I did this with my 109, and did not catch the owner in a single lie when I went to look over the rig. A lying seller is a good reason to run away.

I used the OVLR site information as I was not Blessed with the knowledge of the existence of the PBB and the exalted membership of this board at that time.

For perspective, I have an 88 pickup cab in 99% stock condition (complete with worn out springs), with surface rust only on the frame, surface rust on the firewall mostly removed and repainted, a rebuilt engine, freshly boiled and repainted fuel tank and radiator, all new hydraulics and brake shoes, rebuilt wiper motors and freshly powder coated wheels and new tires for sale for $7,500 and no one has seemed interested in buying it. So the price is too high. But I am not that interested in selling it (the wife is interested in selling it). If your rig is a surface rust only runner, I'd say $4,000 might be a good price. I bought the 88 with a seized engine and toasted hydraulics for 2k, which might have been too much.

The scratches on the paint add value since they will give people the impression that the rig is used for more than the daily Starbuck's run.

Simon, fellow DAN.

Rock Solid
04-26-2004, 05:43 PM
I drove it today and it ran great. The engine in this LR is the 3.51 V8. It has been rebuilt along w/ the transmission and the transfer case and we has installed the over drive ontu it. After the rebuiklts, the LR has less than 2K miles on it.

Simon
04-26-2004, 05:48 PM
Teh overdruve will probbly dye, and the tranimission will not be far behind it with that engyne in the rig. Drive it gently. You might want to have some sparse axle hafts on hand two, or get a salisburiy acksle for it.

Simon

64rovr
04-26-2004, 06:02 PM
Depends if the guy who did the swap was halfway intelligent and also swapped in the rest of the Stage I drivetrain. Did he mention the rig having a different transmission/transfercase than stock?

Rock Solid
04-26-2004, 06:19 PM
He didn't, but I didn't ask. This guy seemed like he really knew what he was talking about, He did all of the rebuilds himself.

64rovr
04-26-2004, 06:56 PM
Does superman Rover rebuilder guy have a name? Somebody here might be familiar with him or his work.