Corp 14 bolt FRONT axle. Does this thing really exist, or is it a joke on me? I have searched and searched. Found two articles that mention a 14 bolt front, but that is it. I cant find parts, info or the axle. Whats the deal? My pops spoke of them from time to time; a long time ago.

The only ones I've seen have been custom made. I'm about 99.876590% sure they never came stock in any GMs.

I also pretty confident that there was never a factory produce 14-bolt front axle, though I have seen a couple of custom built ones.

Is there any known build info for that? I cant say I have ever made a rear axle into a front. Im going to do a search, but if any of you chevy people have that kind of gouge lying around, please share. Or a Dana 60 front would be nice, with 5.13's in it, for about $500.

Is there any known build info for that? I cant say I have ever made a rear axle into a front. Im going to do a search, but if any of you chevy people have that kind of gouge lying around, please share. Or a Dana 60 front would be nice, with 5.13's in it, for about $500.
Check out www.ck5.com There was a guy there that had one custom done. All in all it ended up costing about the same as a d60, but it was all chebby baby. I think that is the main reason he did it, just to be "original".

They were NEVER offered as a OE front axle in anything. Period.

Wagoner Machine (http://www.wagonermachine.com/) builds custom 14 bolt front axles.

Actually there is a 14 bolt front axle. Not really the one you are looking for though. They come up front in the new 2500/3500 Dodge ram 4x4s. I think only in the dually though. Petersen's had a writeup on the a while back. It is the AAM 9.25 14-Bolt axle. It has a 9 1/4 inch ring gear, 1.4 inch shaft diameter, and 33 spline axles. I'm guessin it would be hella hard to get your hands on one of these though. Oh and Wagoneer machine makes custom 14 bolt fronts as well.

just get a dana 70 front axle...ok, so its not as original as building your own, but how many ppl out there have 70's up front?

Actually there is a 14 bolt front axle. Not really the one you are looking for though. They come up front in the new 2500/3500 Dodge ram 4x4s. I think only in the dually though. Petersen's had a writeup on the a while back. It is the AAM 9.25 14-Bolt axle. It has a 9 1/4 inch ring gear, 1.4 inch shaft diameter, and 33 spline axles. I'm guessin it would be hella hard to get your hands on one of these though. Oh and Wagoneer machine makes custom 14 bolt fronts as well.

Notice the Forum. "Chevy Talk".

definitely a myth...

Perhaps I have been under a rock all my life, but I havent heard of W.M.S. before. Do these guys do quality work?
And I would like some opinion here. d60/ d70/ or build the 14b. I have a 10b up front now on my sub. Its a half ton, but I did the 8 lug conversion to match the lugs after I grenaded my rear 10b and put the 14b in. Im not trying to be unique, I just worry about that 10b on the trail.

are you lookin to wheel it hard or just occassional rides? you could swap in a d44 with some upgrades maybe and roll with it if yer not lookin for a pocket-book killer. and you can have the 8-lug also. if yer wantin to spend the $$, just get a d60 and 35-spline outers...

Actually, I wheel it pretty hard now. But a truk is never done if something can be upgraded. The problem is over here in Kalifornia the trails I want to be on are pretty tough. 38 inch tires are near law and so on. 38"s on a 10b or a d44 is just looking to make some trail repair. Im in the military and lots of cash is one thing that wasnt in my contract, so the d60 is a strech for me. The d70 just seems so frikin big.

Swapping a 10 bolt for a D44 would be a complete waste of time.

Whoa.....i had a dream a couple of nights ago about a Corporate 14 bolt front axle.....man was it sick!! i must be too for dreaming about axles.....but yeah, not really production pieces unless you are pansy enough to own a new dodge.....but for the record, 'Corporate' axles are not Chevy.....they are made by a third party company that is now called AAM, the ones producing the new dodge 14 bolt front axle, but the company itself has been around for decades making stout pieces for all makes/models of 4x's, much like Dana/Spicer.

Whoa.....i had a dream a couple of nights ago about a Corporate 14 bolt front axle.....man was it sick!! i must be too for dreaming about axles.....but yeah, not really production pieces unless you are pansy enough to own a new dodge.....but for the record, 'Corporate' axles are not Chevy.....they are made by a third party company that is now called AAM, the ones producing the new dodge 14 bolt front axle, but the company itself has been around for decades making stout pieces for all makes/models of 4x's, much like Dana/Spicer.


Thats a filty dream.

Swapping a 10 bolt for a D44 would be a complete waste of time.



Thats why I just did outers.

[QUOTE=The Agony].....but for the record, 'Corporate' axles are not Chevy.....QUOTE]

touche` but one must assume that he is refering to a chebby axle considering it is the chebby forum. I agree, swapping a 10b fer a 44 would be a waste of time. Wait till you bust the 10b then decide what to do (but start saving now;))

but for the record, 'Corporate' axles are not Chevy.....they are made by a third party company that is now called AAM, the ones producing the new dodge 14 bolt front axle, but the company itself has been around for decades making stout pieces for all makes/models of 4x's, much like Dana/Spicer.

Until sometime in the 80s or 90s, American Axle was a division of General Motors, and they only made parts for GM. This is the company that has made every axle (several varieties of 10 bolts, 12 bolts and 14 bolts) that GM has used since forever. It has only been recently, since the company was spun off (actually bought out by a group of executives that worked there) that they have sold anything to another auto maker.

Keep the 10-bolt and save some money for Moly axleshafts for it. :D

Keep the 10-bolt and save some money for Moly axleshafts for it. :D

I can't believe you just said that.
save for teh 60. I know that's what everyone expects the people not spending the money to say. I wheeled for years on 10 bolts and 44's. lot's of repairs. with chromo shafts they are badass, but what kind of money are you going to spend. Find a 60 for 900-1100 and run it and don't look back. cheap upgrade right off when you get it- longfields u-joints. Keep em greased. love mine

Check out www.ck5.com There was a guy there that had one custom done. All in all it ended up costing about the same as a d60, but it was all chebby baby. I think that is the main reason he did it, just to be "original".


Yeah that was me. 14bolt front (http://community.webshots.com/user/k5monsterchev) I didnt really do it to be original. It might not make sense to some people now, but when the truck is all finished it will. Just read the whole post. I never posted it here because I didnt think you guys would appreciate it.

ck5 (http://coloradok5.com/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/1043325/page/0/view/collapsed/sb/5/o/all/fpart/all/vc/1)

Actually there is a 14 bolt front axle. Not really the one you are looking for though. They come up front in the new 2500/3500 Dodge ram 4x4s. I think only in the dually though. Petersen's had a writeup on the a while back. It is the AAM 9.25 14-Bolt axle. It has a 9 1/4 inch ring gear, 1.4 inch shaft diameter, and 33 spline axles. I'm guessin it would be hella hard to get your hands on one of these though. Oh and Wagoneer machine makes custom 14 bolt fronts as well.

I'm assuming the original post was referring to a front axle based on the 10.5" ring gear 14-bolt FF rear axle. The only similiarities the AAM front axle has is the 14 bolts holding the diff cover on...........

Yeah that was me. 14bolt front I didnt really do it to be original.

you say that you didn't do it to be original, but in your thread on ck5 you say "I went with a 14 bolt because, why not? Its something different, everyone has a 60."
that seems like an attempt to be original to me
also seems like a rediculous waste of money and time when you could just get a 60
if you got a 70 you could stiff be rather original
how do you explain how a center dif is any better than an offset one?
:confused: :confused: :confused:

I can get a d70, but that thing is huge. And I would have to do the brake conversion on it so I'm still looking at $$$ after all said and done.
Would moly shafts in a 10b just make something else grenade? As far as the axle goes. I'm not talking drive line, just axle.

I'm not really sure what the true advantage to having a Dana 70 or 14-bolt front axle. Sure, the ring gear and diff are bigger but all of the ones I have seen have the same, or equivalant strength, axle shaft and u-joints which seem to be the "weak" spot on Dana 60's anyway. Does anybody regularly strip out a ring and pinion on a front 60???

I'm assuming the original post was referring to a front axle based on the 10.5" ring gear 14-bolt FF rear axle. The only similiarities the AAM front axle has is the 14 bolts holding the diff cover on...........

I know the 9.25 and 10.5 have pretty much nothing in common i was just show that nvrenuf's quote was false...

"They were NEVER offered as a OE front axle in anything. Period."

Moly shafts and all that.......... its a Suburban!! Those things are heavy. Just get the 60. Do you live on base or in town? If you need any help let me know, im not too far away.

spoolnaround-- Yea im on base. Cant say I like it though. I go through some kind of hasle everytime I LOOK at my truck. Base rules and all. Ur right down the road there. If I need some help I'll holler. Or just a wheelin trip. I want to take this thing on the Dusy Ershim trail this year.

I can get a d70, but that thing is huge. And I would have to do the brake conversion on it so I'm still looking at $$$ after all said and done.
Would moly shafts in a 10b just make something else grenade? As far as the axle goes. I'm not talking drive line, just axle.

I think a 14 bolt front would be just as big and just as expensive.

I've seen the center sections blow apart (gears) on those smaller front ends. We blew one apart every hunting season. Went to the 60 and have not had a problem since.

you say that you didn't do it to be original, but in your thread on ck5 you say "I went with a 14 bolt because, why not? Its something different, everyone has a 60."
that seems like an attempt to be original to me:




Yes, why not? Its not original, seeing as how there were other 14b fronts made before, and the center diff isnt original either, I have seen trucks with centered 60 and such, so its not original, just not seen that much.

how do you explain how a center dif is any better than an offset one?
:confused: :confused: :confused:

Did you read the whole post? I never said anything about it being better.

Corp 14 bolt FRONT axle. Does this thing really exist, or is it a joke on me? I have searched and searched. Found two articles that mention a 14 bolt front, but that is it. I cant find parts, info or the axle. Whats the deal? My pops spoke of them from time to time; a long time ago.


This wont help you, but I know a guy that runs a 14 bolt in the front of a land cruser. I dont know anything about it. And dont really like the guy. But if you really want to know I can make a few phone calls and find out some info about it.

This wont help you, but I know a guy that runs a 14 bolt in the front of a land cruser. I dont know anything about it. And dont really like the guy. But if you really want to know I can make a few phone calls and find out some info about it.

If you want to ask him where he got it from or if he made it himself you can do that but,
If you dont like the guy, I wouldnt dare ask you to humble him. He's probably an asshat anyway.
Thanks for the offer.

If you want to ask him where he got it from or if he made it himself you can do that but,
If you dont like the guy, I wouldnt dare ask you to humble him. He's probably an asshat anyway.
Thanks for the offer.


I'll make a couple phone calls on monday. The dudes just a jackass. But I think I can track down the guy that built it with out talking to the owner.

Good deal! Thanks johnny boy02.
And thanks to all others for your input as well.

Did you read the whole post? I never said anything about it being better.

if its not better and you're not trying to be original then what is the point in doing it. it just doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

Hey K5MONSTERCHEVY cool clear driveshaft and axle shafts man!

I just finished the axle. What do you think I have money pouring out of my ass or something??

i was just show that nvrenuf's quote was false...


but his post isn't false
your's is.
the new AAM stuff is NOT a 14bolt anymore then a Dana60 is a 10bolt,
even though they both have the same number of cover bolts

that 'pregnant 10 bolt' semifloat POS should never have been labeled as a 14 either

You bunch of fish eyed fools ought to appriciate that kind of work and trying to do something different. If people never tried anything new I doubt we would even be to dana 60's hell I remember when dana 44's were cool in the late 80's

I was on my 3rd d44 in the very late 80s and searching for a D60
the reason the d44 was "cool" had to do with the complete lack of lockers available for the 10 bolt
so if you wanted to wheel you needed a d44

Run your 10bolt and save for the 60 :D
It's a bolt in job!

Subur78