Ok here's the lowdown. I am selling my YJ to buy a trail only samurai and a daily driver/tow vehicle. So my question is for everyone who tows their 'zuk......what is your tow vehicle and how is it working for you? A buddy of mine tows his with a '91 Range Rover or a Suburban, and they work fine for him. The two vehicles I've been looking at are a Land Rover Disco or a Jeep Grand Cherokee (5.2 or 5.9 ltd <---:D). I'd be towing on a trailer with trailer brakes, if that figures at all in your responses. I just wanted to get some opinions.

I flat-tow my Sammy with my '93 Ford Ranger. It's a 4.0L 5 spd and it does okay. Hills take a little while, but it cruises along fairly well. Those trailers can get pretty heavy, so you might want to reconsider your vehicle choice for pulling it. If you want to flat-tow, you can use just about anything, but with a trailer, I would personally consider a truck. Just my opinion. ~Steve

my soft top sammy weights in at 2350 lbs if this will help.

I've towed my buddy's Samurai with our Grand Cherokee 5.9 Limited and I literally could not tell that the Samurai was behind it in tow. The standard 5.2 V8 Jeep shouldn't have any problem, and I would think that the I6 Grand Cherokee would also be more than sufficient.

Personally, I'd love to get my hands on a Grand Vitara XL-7 to use as my Samurai tow vehicle. My advise is that anything with 6 or more cylinders and good brakes should be fine for towing a Samurai.

Chevy full size truck---pulls nice

I pull my trailer with a 76' Scout II, it has a 345cid. But I've been flat towed as far as 300 miles by a 4 cylinder Toy.

Like everyone has said, you can flat tow with nearly everything. But if you want to get a trailer (the ultimate mod for a trail Zuk IMO) definately get something with a V8. A samurai may only weigh 2400 lb, but don't forget to add another 1500 lb for the trailer. I tried pulling a trailer with my V-6 Nissan a while ago, it was ok for a short hop but no way I'd want to try and pull hills with that combo. Since I wanted a nice daily driver I went overkill and got a Ford Lightning, 385hp and 450 ft-lb of torque. Now my only problem is finding speed rated trailer tires :D

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Originally posted by zukiman
more than sufficient.

My advise is that anything with 6 or more cylinders and good brakes should be fine for towing a Samurai.


I towed my Samurai with a I-6 Cherokee and it would pull fine - you could tell the trailer was back there, tho. I would Highly recommend trailer brakes for this combination, and would Not lift the tow vehicle.

Hmmmm....I've been concerned my wifes Durango with a 4.7 V8 wouldnt pull my sami on a trailer, I'm actually real close to buying a E350 1 ton van for a tow rig.

I'm sure the Durango could do the flats but there are some steep grades to the con. Plus I've heard theres some pretty big hills on the way to AZ house:D

The reason that I want to tow with a trailer is so if I break something I can still get it back home on the trailer. Depending on what I broke, if I was flat towing I might have to find the time to fix it before I could flat tow it home. Besides, this 'zuk is going to be a trail only 'zuk and I'd rather not flat tow and wear out the boggers I'm going to buy. I did some more thinking about a tow vehicle and I think I'm going to get a small loan of about $3k so that I can go with a 5.9 limited over a 5.2 limited grand cherokee. I really like the grand cherokees as a daily driver and since that is what this vehicle will be used for more often than not, I think I'll end up getting a 5.9. :D. I know some people have suggested a truck but I would want something along the lines of a cummins turbo diesel or a powerstroke and since I have to deal with parking on a college campus, I dont think a full size truck would work for me.

I know those V8 Grand's have some trouble cooling - haven't heard how well they tow. Not sure thow they'd do with those coil springs in the rear...:p

Any 1/2 ton V8 will do a good job. If you are considering a trailer, let me recommend you spend the few extra buck for the drop axles. The sami does not weight that much, but they have the aerodynamics of a BRICK! My 5.9L Dodge does a great job unless I'm going into a head wind. Then, well lets just say 7mpg would pay for the drop axles after a few long trips… Without a headwind I can get 9 to 10 mpg as long as I keep it below 70 mph (again the brick thing).

Originally posted by okcrawler
The sami does not weight that much, but they have the aerodynamics of a BRICK! My 5.9L Dodge does a great job unless I'm going into a head wind. Then, well lets just say 7mpg would pay for the drop axles after a few long trips… Without a headwind I can get 9 to 10 mpg as long as I keep it below 70 mph (again the brick thing).

He's RIGHT about the wind resistance. I had always run my rig with a windshield until this year. It makes a Huge difference towing it without it!

Save the money on the drop axles - take your windshield off...

I tow with a 94 toyota 4RNR V-6 it does allright but I want to get a power chip for it My buddy pull's his wrangler with the v-8 on a trailer 16' pulls 75-80mph and never takes it out of overdrive

Originally posted by scwafish
Hmmmm....I've been concerned my wifes Durango with a 4.7 V8 wouldnt pull my sami on a trailer, I'm actually real close to buying a E350 1 ton van for a tow rig.

I'm sure the Durango could do the flats but there are some steep grades to the con. Plus I've heard theres some pretty big hills on the way to AZ house:D

Try out the Durango first. It will most likely work fine. That is unless you really feel you "need" that E350 van. :D I use my V6 Tacoma to pull my zuk. I use an ex-Uhaul car dolly and it does fine.

On hills it's noticable but I can still climb the grades in the area at 65 (usually by downshifting to 4th). I've also pulled the zuk to Blue Lake/Deer Valley on hwy 88. It's noticable, but did fine. The biggest thing is that the dolly does not have it's own brakes so you have to take it easy and keep a larger distance.

My brother has also used my dolly to tow his zuk with his I6 Cherokee.

I thought about a dolly too, but after seeing that on at Suzi on the Rocks...dollys are now scary!

That is unless you really feel you "need" that E350 van.

Obviously no "need" for the van but why work a $30k vehicle at its limits when you could thrash a 3k car?, The van is cheap, has one ton drivetrain, and is setup with a compressor and a generator. I figured me and my son could also sleep in there. Obviously it will suck gas, but I won't be using it alot.

I had a 1/2 ton Ford with a V6 (K&N, superchip, 3" exhaust). It pulled my Zuk and trailer really well. It would pull 70-75 MPH easily. Hills would drag it down a little. If that truck was an extended cab I would have kept it. I just traded for another 1/2 ton Ford. This one is a crew cab and has the 5.4L V8. It should tow the Zuk and trailer with ease. Haven't tried it out yet.

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BTW, before I bought my V6 Ford, I towed trailer and Zuk from my house to Tellico (300 miles) with a 4 cyl Nissan 4x4. That was Not a fun trip. I hit Nashville at rush hour..... took several years off of my life I think. Didn't have trailer brakes either.

Like some others had pointed out watch what trailer you get.

I have a 6x12 "utility" trailer w/ a wood deck and it weighs 990lbs

my brother has a nice master tow for his race car that weighs 2200 (empty)

http://www.yager.net/zukin/new/zuke-on-trailer.jpg


And the tow rig...... well i get 16mpg towing at 75mph... :flipoff2:


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I'd get at least 1/2 w/ V8 and watch the HP and Torque figures AND at what RPM they rate them at. HP and torque at 5000rpm don't get you moving from a stop.

-mike

I have a 90 YJ with Chevy 305 and aoto tranny SPOA on 33s and have flat towed my sammi wich also has 33 TSLs and its scary.

It pulls no ploblem but Its not real fun. I want to trade the Yj in on something bigger like a burban or something.

I have Soa on my Scout with 35's and no swaybars. Talk about scary! Although my it also has 4.56's and lockers front and rear.

Here is a pic of my tow rig.....Doesnt get that great of gas milage, but it does get some a**!!

It will pull all day long at 80mph!

That kicks ass, Rude. If you flat towed, you could wear out 8 Boggers at once. :D

I've towed with many different combo's but I will say a trailer is the way to go.I flat towed my sammy p/u with a quad in the back and many other accessories and when we hit snow it wasn't so cool.This was with a 90 toy extra cab with a lift and 32's.When I flat towed with both of my suburbans it was effortless.When I trailer towed with the small suburban it was a toy but it was a short box reg cab 4x4 and it was a joke.The brakes are the best feature about trailering.For those of you that tow I would never recommend leaving it in overdrive especially with a stick.It runs the major load through both shafts and can prematurely kill a tranny.It also is easier on the drivetrain just to go a little slower and keep the revs at a reasonable level.:D :beer: :smokin:

Originally posted by 0ILBURNER
I know those V8 Grand's have some trouble cooling - haven't heard how well they tow. Not sure thow they'd do with those coil springs in the rear...:p

I can't speak for the I6 or 318V8 Grand Cherokee's, but there is NOTHING we can do to get our 360 (5.9)'s temp needle to budge. We regularly tow our boat and our heavy cargo trailer up the mountains to Tahoe from Sacramento during the summer heat, and even doing 85mph up those hills in 100+ heat with the A/C on, the needle won't even budge. Also, even with a 300lb. tongue weight, there's no problem with bounciness or sway with the stock suspension. We have upsized the tires to 245/70-16, and we put some more air in them with the heavy loads.

Before the ZJ we had a Toyota FJ-60. It towed our boat and trailer great, but its Inline 6 couldn't do anything more than chug its way up the grades in the slow lane. Just the opposite of the Jeep, which hauls ass in the fast lane the whole way no matter what we tow! The only way we know we have a trailer behind is that fuel economy drops from about 15.5mpg to, well, it depends how big of a rush we're in. :cool: But neither the ZJ's nor the FJ's temp needle would ever budge. We did have a problem with trailer sway in the FJ when we had a heavy load in our cargo trailer. But not with the Jeep.

I never towed a Samurai with our FJ-60, but our friend Scott Gomez flat tows his Samurai everywhere with his FJ-62. He has no problems except for slow acceleration. But he did lose a rear driveshaft on his Samurai once while flat towing, another reason why using a trailer is a good idea. Also, don't hit a deer with a Samurai in tow...the tow rig will make it over the deer fine, but it will splatter the deer just enough to absolutely COVER the Samurai top to bottom in chunks. Scott learned that lesson the hard way. He was picking intestines out of his Samurai's suspension and radiator for days, and to this day he still has deer hair glued to his front diff with dried blood. Ick! :barf: Apparently, the truckers on the CB who watched Scott disintegrate the deer found it to be rather amusing!

Originally posted by zukiman


why using a trailer is a good idea. Also, don't hit a deer with a Samurai in tow...the tow rig will make it over the deer fine, but it will splatter the deer just enough to absolutely COVER the Samurai top to bottom in chunks. Scott learned that lesson the hard way. He was picking intestines out of his Samurai's suspension and radiator for days, and to this day he still has deer hair glued to his front diff with dried blood. Ick! :barf: Apparently, the truckers on the CB who watched Scott disintegrate the deer found it to be rather amusing!

Well, I was going to eat breakfast..................

Originally posted by zukiman
I can't speak for the I6 or 318V8 Grand Cherokee's, but there is NOTHING we can do to get our 360 (5.9)'s temp needle to budge. We regularly tow our boat and our heavy cargo trailer up the mountains to Tahoe from Sacramento during the summer heat, and even doing 85mph up those hills in 100+ heat with the A/C on, the needle won't even budge. Also, even with a 300lb. tongue weight, there's no problem with bounciness or sway with the stock suspension. We have upsized the tires to 245/70-16, and we put some more air in them with the heavy loads.

See that's what I want to hear. I'd probably have to get a loan for around $3000 to get a 5.9 but I'm thinking I might just take it out of the samurai budget for now and not do my buildup all at one time. I'm definitely set on buying a 5.9 now.......the only problem I'm having now is finding a good samurai to build up and finding a 5.9! I think I've already pretty much sold my YJ so that puts me that much close to buying a 5.9

I can't remember if it was in JP or 4WOR magazine but they packed four adults in a brand new ZJ (4.7L) and drove from Cali to ???? inland a couple days of staight driving with a trailer to pick up Vern Simone's Flattie and then back to Cali. They said the Grand Kicked Arse! As I remember the trailer was pretty big too. I would recomend trailer brakes though and maybe airbags to augment your 5.9L limited.

I pulled the boat (17 ft Larson) through some pretty hairy mountain passes with my stock TJ (Hey it's my "car"!) it had the balls but the short wheel base is a little quirky. I wouldn't tow anything else with a Short wheel base no matter what motor it had in it. 'Cause it would be down right scarry!
my $.035 CDN!
Dave
aka SHOGUNATOR

Don't let the published horsepower numbers fool you. Jeep claims only 245hp from the 1998 5.9 Limited, yet they claim 260 from the 2002 4.7 Overland. Look at the acceleration times though. Even with a 5-speed auto, the 4.7 High Output can't even come CLOSE to the 5.9 with a 4-speed auto.

Check out the latest Four Wheeler magazine. In their 2002 FWOY test, they got 8.8 seconds 0-60mph for the 4.7HO. In the latest issue of 4 Wheel & Off-Road, their 4.7HO was even slower. I seem to have misplaced my copy of Four Wheeler with the 1998 4WOY test (the Durango won) but the 5.9 Limited came in second. I don't have Four Wheeler's 0-60 time to quote, but I do know that one of the automotive magazines clocked its time as 6.8 seconds to 60.

Of course, towing is more than just about acceleration. My only point is that the 5.9 Limited has way more power than you should need. I have fun driving ours, because when I power-brake it from a stopsign, it'll either squeal all 4 tires as it rockets ahead, or if it hooks up it'll pull the driver's-side front tire off the ground. The looks I get from random people when I do that are hilarious!

Also, if you ever plan to use its 4wd system as it was intended, you'll be pleased to hear that it does very well when traction gets limited. The rear limited slip is extremely tight (it'll scrub the inside-rear tire on dry pavement when turning tightly) and performs exceptionally well in snow. It does things with ease that our FJ-60 could never do. And in about 50,000 miles, it has been trouble-free except for a very slow transmission fluid leak (3 quarts during the 50k miles).

Originally posted by zukiman
Also, if you ever plan to use its 4wd system as it was intended, you'll be pleased to hear that it does very well when traction gets limited.

Yeah I'll have to use whatever I buy as a daily driver but it also has to get me to my family's cabin in the mountains. The last 2.5 miles are straight up on a gravel road complete with switchbacks and washed out sections :D. Its also steep enough that a 2wd vehicle can't make it up the road unless it is bone dry, and even then it has problems. So yes, 4wd will actually get used.

Now I'm just waiting on someone to buy my YJ so I can go ahead with all the rest of my junk. Anyone want a YJ? :p

I tow with a 3/4 ton 1984 Suburban.
I sometimes glance in the mirror and think "hey that guy is following too close" Then.... DUH thats my zuk!

Sounds like you are in market for a new vehicle so my post is really no use to you. Anyway, I did tow once with my 98 F250 but this Ford sucks and I have had nothing but trouble since.

Good Luck

Ya gotta do it in style.................LOL . I have a 1973 International school bus, converted into a Camper/ Hauller. Its self contained, and loaded with spare parts.

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:flipoff2: Yaaaaaaaaaaa Babbbbbbbbbbby":flipoff2:
We called it the " Shaggon Wagon"

skeetshooters mobile metal shop, hauls diesel Lincoln welder, torch, spare parts & extra steel, his Zuk and my Scout.

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Originally posted by mudlite
Ya gotta do it in style.................LOL . I have a 1973 International school bus, converted into a Camper/ Hauller.

Dude if I could park that on campus I'd do it, but I think the parking and transportation officials would frown on that sort of thing. One thing's for sure, nobody would fight you for a parking spot!:D

I have a ZJ 5.9 right now... the badest stock SUV I have ever driven. My buddy has a 5.9 forsale, currently on eBay. This vehicle was his pride and joy. He has done quite abit of aftermarket mods to even further improve performance. I would sell mine and by his if I could. There is no problem pulling a Zuk with this vehicle. Also, they are like driving a sports car around town. You can haul people and keep items secure.:)

I've got a 3/4 ton Dodge with a 5.9 Cummins turbo diesel...... never had a problem towing the zuki ..... never had a problem towing anything:D :smokin:

Buy a set of cheap little tires and use those to flat tow with, I've flat towed for over 20,000 miles, and I love to watch people find a place for a trailer, and a tow rig, both at home and when traveling. Think about how much room you will need. If your YJ has a 4.0 in it, it will pull a 2,000 pds. sami just fine. IMO. Monte

Originally posted by Monte Busselman
I love to watch people find a place for a trailer, and a tow rig, both at home and when traveling.

....and I love to watch people trying to back up with a flat-towed trail rig, and I love to see their rig catapult off of the rear driveshaft at 75 MPH when a u-joint lets go, and I love to see them sit on the side of the road when a wheel/axle bearing takes a dump. And while they're at the trail, I love to see newbies sit around and watch the other guys try all kinds of crazy stuff, 'cause if they tear their shiat up they have to fix it before they can pull it home. I can pile my broke junk on the trailer and get home.

The first time you flip (not lay it on it's side.... but F L I P ! ! !) your sami, you will discover that a trailer is priceless. If you roll one down a hill, you would have a hard time dragging it home.


Getting the trailer / samurai up to speed is not the biggest issue....it's being able to stop the thing in a hurry if you need to. I used to tow mine with a 2wd toyota. It would go fine...but woudn't stop for crap. Now that I am married and have kids, I don't do (that kind of) stupid stuff anymore. My wife's new "car" is was a crew cab superduty. If you are gonna buy something full size, I'd buy a 3/4 ton because of the full floater rear axle....cause "stuff" does happen.

I towed with my F150 SuperCrew for the first time today. 5.4L V8, 3.55:1 axle. It pulls great! I use a 6x12' utility type trailer, about 1000#, plus the Zuk which is probably around 2500#. I don't have trailer brakes. The roads were wet, with a little snow, so I was keeping plenty of ditance in front of me, then this idiot pulls out in front of me! Thank God for four wheel anti-lock disc brakes! This truck stopped the load better with wet roads than my smaller F150 would have with dry roads. I want to eventually add brakes to my trailer or buy a bigger one with brakes. I can handle the weight just fine, but you don't know what the other morons on the road are gonna do!

We went up to Turkey Bay, LBL. Steep hills + 3-4" of snow = lotsa fun! Stupid alternator's not charging so I played for a few hours before the battery crapped out.

cheap and easy solution. i got an 02 dodge 1/2 ton with 4.7 auto. for 15k brand new with 100,000k free warranty. i can pull a jeep or zook as fast as i want which is usually around 80+ mph. and i got 11" disc on all 4 corners to stop it. it's even got an alternate second gear for towing. when i bought it , i loaded up the zook on the trailer and pulled it up next to my dads 01 dodge
which was empty. i outran him by a truck length 0-60. he traded his in the next day as well.
p.s my trailer weighs 1800 lbs empty.
or you can buy my old tow rig for $4500 if ya can afford the gas. 86 shortbed chevy with a 468 big block and 4 speed with no converters. it pulls anything just fine at 4 mpg. and fits in a campus parking spot with ease.

just wanting to know if a 1/2 ton what be alright to tow with or should i be looking at a 3/4-1 ton ? Just guessing here but i think the max i be towing is 6000lbs with trailer 8x15 and zuk

As others have said. You must have trailer brakes.

You won’t realize that you needed them until your trailer is pushing the rear of the tow rig past the front during an emergency stop. Cheap insurance.

We had a small camper (approx 2000 lbs) just about jack knife a full size van loaded with two race bikes, all the tools and spare parts, dodging a deer. Dad cut into it, gassed it and got out of it before we went all the way around. If the road is blocked with an accident or traffic, we wouldn’t have had that option.

I’m looking for a trailer as we speak. I picked up this tow rig Monday. I figure I could pull a five suzuki’s without trouble. 1992 D-250 cummins diesel.

I flat-towed my Zuk with my 89 Toy 4WD pickup last weekend 1,000 miles from CT to SC. No problems. The truck is on 33"s with the stock 4.10's and has 249,000 miles on it. Temp needle never went past it's normal position once.

I'm sure that setup would suck nuts in the mountains. A V8 anything would be way better but you do what you gotta do.:)

I want to get a new/newer F350 TD 4WD. I can justify to myself because I would have a definite use for it as a work truck (I'm a carpenter). I have to tow a 5x8 utility trailer full of tools anyhow.


Hef

I currently tow with a 1988 Suburban 4x4 1/2 ton, it does fine on everything, but am selling it in order to buy a crew cab so I can put a camper on it, the wife is getting tired of sleeping on the ground in a tent. If you're interested in a clean Burb for $3900 let me know.

I bought a 99 K2500 to haul my trailer. I think its a pussies 3/4 ton because it has 3.42 gears and the springs squat like mad with just my gooseneck trailer on it. I know the 33x10 tires dont help but the gearing causes me to drop down to 2nd on almost every little hill. But it gets me there and back and pulls rather smoothly. Just need to find some 4.10 axles and some helper springs.

I thought this one a big de-ja-vou thingy. Sounded REAL familiar. Then I looked at the date of the original post :rolleyes:
Originally posted by RocKrawler
............ am selling it in order to buy a crew cab so I can put a camper on it, the wife is getting tired of sleeping on the ground in a tent..........Good joice, the only way to go :D

My tow setup currently
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Old pic, Sami is taller now. Have no problem going, people ask how fast I can go and I tell them "faster than Texas Hwy Patrol liked" :) Stopping can be interesting.

I did use a friends custom trailer and towed home from Moab one time. That is a sweet lil trailer.

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I'm thinking seriousley of getting an old 70s or 80s full size station wagon as a poor mans tow rig

My rig is old school! What happen to having a tow rig with some 36's and lockers front and rear?

Originally posted by Azrckcrawler


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Gotta love that Arizona grass, er um pebble....LOL:D

:D :D :D

303rear wheel HP, 647 rear wheel ft lbs tq


hardly noticed those two little zuki's back there :D

You guys should see it all the tow rigs get stuck in the sand on the way out of the Hammers. It gets out of hand...

Originally posted by Joe_W


I'm thinking seriousley of getting an old 70s or 80s full size station wagon as a poor mans tow rig

I've got a '93 Caprice Wagon, L05 350 w/tow package for my towing purposes.

http://www.azfire.org/images/Dscf0227.jpg

Hauled my brothers 71 frd on a dolly with no probs as well as my '65 Impala SS without complaint. Pleanty of power and all the comfort a guy could ask for.

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Not to mention some wire wheels, Come Awnn!

Originally posted by fatkid
Not to mention some wire wheels, Come Awnn!

C'mon..thems wheels are pimp!!!:grinpimp:

Seriously, they're stock and the wife hates 'em, which is probably why they're still on there....:D

Originally posted by fatkid
You guys should see it all the tow rigs get stuck in the sand on the way out of the Hammers. It gets out of hand...



Hmmm, never had that problem :D must be the "oversized off-road tires" that voided my axle warrenty (HP60/sterling 10.5)

Dave you know what Im talking about, the sand gets deeper and deeper. Tires make the difference...

Originally posted by fatkid
Dave you know what Im talking about, the sand gets deeper and deeper. Tires make the difference...


i know exactly what you mean, i don't know how some of teh 2wd guy's get through the last wash.... i actually spun a bit coming in in 4wd last time, but then again i was also going 2 mph because my truck rides like shit!

just drove it off the lot tuesday :D
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i used to tow a 2000lb construction trailer with the zuk on it with a '97 f150 stepside 5.4L.....it towed just fine....lacked a little power only on the steepest hills......i really wanted to upgrade trucks for better braking and more weight on the tow rig so it would control the trailer a little better....i think my problems are solved

Thats cool, how did you fit it in your zuk?:confused:

Originally posted by ebuck


I've got a '93 Caprice Wagon, L05 350 w/tow package for my towing purposes.

http://www.azfire.org/images/Dscf0227.jpg

Hauled my brothers 71 frd on a dolly with no probs as well as my '65 Impala SS without complaint. Pleanty of power and all the comfort a guy could ask for.

http://www.azfire.org/images/Dscf0225.jpg

THATS what I'm talking about :D Was checking out a friends the other day, same car only the Oldsmobile version, self-leveling suspension...thing was pimp and you can get them for a great price.

But for the same great price can you get the ho's and the white hat with a purple feather?

Originally posted by Joe_W


THATS what I'm talking about :D Was checking out a friends the other day, same car only the Oldsmobile version, self-leveling suspension...thing was pimp and you can get them for a great price.

We got our for less than 4K with 90K on the odo (and just about perfect inside and out), self leveling susp, 3.73/posi rear and the go pedal is amazing on sumthin that size.

It's also got the rear facing seat at the far back, great for keeping the kids busy while on long trips. :D

Originally posted by fatkid
But for the same great price can you get the ho's and the white hat with a purple feather?

Amazingly enough...the ho's don't seem to appreciate my rig....can't figure it out:confused:

Originally posted by DSI



i know exactly what you mean, i don't know how some of teh 2wd guy's get through the last wash.... i actually spun a bit coming in in 4wd last time, but then again i was also going 2 mph because my truck rides like shit! Keep the engine bouncing off of the rev limiter works for me (25 mph up that fawkin hill) :D :D :D

I have a 98 Discovery with 3inch lift spings on 32's and I have flat towed and trailered my Zuk behind it. The only problem I have encountered with it is cross winds on the highway, it likes to change lanes by itself.

I removed the sway bar in the rear of the disco and will be putting it back on, since I don't wheel it anymore. That should fix the swaying tendancies with high cross winds.

y'all have nice trucks........cawksuckers!:flipoff2: I'm jealous.

Shit, maybe I should be towing my Toy with the Zuk!!:laughing:


Hef

silver zuk that is the rig I have been looking for to up grade from my 91.5 d350. lots of power and it will pull any thing i have ever put behind it or in it(4500 lbs of roofing sutff in the bed one time, had to go back for a second load because of the tool box, not because of the weight). put a 16cm turbo housing on it and a 4" exhaust, turn up the pump and there isn't a stock rig that will be able to toch you and it will still get @ 16 miles per gallon of cheap diesel!

I flat tow with a '93 4 door Xploder, 5spd. On flat goroud its just fine, but last year going thru the Rockies it sucked going up hill. the 4.0L was about gutless. all I can say is make sure the tow rig is alot heavier. the Zuki tried to pass me once in the rain when I went around a corner. If the Xploder was lighter, I would have rolled it or at least went into the ditch.

I was getting about 10 mpg with it. not good, but I was pulling across the desert in mid June (arizona/utah).

its embarassing to get passed by semi's going up hill :(

Originally posted by ebuck


Gotta love that Arizona grass, er um pebble....LOL:D

I just smile to myself as I leave for a weekend of four wheeling as my neighbor cuts his grass yet again :D

Originally posted by horse_with_no_name
silver zuk that is the rig I have been looking for to up grade from my 91.5 d350. lots of power and it will pull any thing i have ever put behind it or in it(4500 lbs of roofing sutff in the bed one time, had to go back for a second load because of the tool box, not because of the weight). put a 16cm turbo housing on it and a 4" exhaust, turn up the pump and there isn't a stock rig that will be able to toch you and it will still get @ 16 miles per gallon of cheap diesel!

I've already turned the "smoke screw" in.
I have to get a exhaust temp gauge, so I can turn it on up.

I have buddy that works on these all the timel.
He says you can around 600-hp without major mods, just buy "turning it up".

He's got a 97 that he tows a 6000 lb trailer with everyday at work. He said the gas mileage is poor, but it will fly.

Mine is powerful enough for I'm doing (3000 lb Zuk).
It will be a while before I work on the dodge.


No grass - must be nice. Now I see how you guys get time to work on your rigs. I spend 4-6 hours a week mowing and trimming my place.

http://www.superford.org/registry/vehicles/users/2462/1568/DCP03926.JPG

http://www.superford.org/registry/vehicles/users/2462/1568/MVC-057F.JPG

Here is my Tow Rig! :D

Originally posted by Azrckcrawler


I just smile to myself as I leave for a weekend of four wheeling as my neighbor cuts his grass yet again :D

Yah...all this daytime rain we've been getting and my 2 acres of grass is startin to look like a jungle...

Anyone got a writeup on how to turn my sami into a lawnmower???:D

That was my nooobeeee-be-gone post!!:eek:

Believe it or not, in other countries the sammies had a PTO output and they did have a lawmower attachment :eek:

If you want to play with toy like this, then you like to play wqith toy in general. A Zuk, even on a trailer dosent weigh that much. What about next years boat? Buy a tow rig for the FUTURE. Not just for towing a Zuk.
Have a nice day
Steve

Originally posted by ebuck


Anyone got a writeup on how to turn my sami into a lawnmower???:D

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Sounds like a great episode for Jesse James "Monster garage":D

Originally posted by Dychen
Believe it or not, in other countries the sammies had a PTO output and they did have a lawmower attachment :eek:

Hell yah! know where I can pick up the PTO equip???

Originally posted by NC Zuk


Sounds like a great episode for Jesse James "Monster garage":D

Already done using a rustang....

Heres my tow rig it is rusty but has a built 468BB and I got it for 500 bucks and put 500 in to it and it got me around last year. It is geting a new body this year and some paint. It will run 90 down the road like there is no truck on it. The guy I bought it from would put a car on the truck and tow a trailer with 2 more cars on that. He told me one time he was loaded (3 cars) and got pulled over doing over 100mph (the guy had some problems).

Scwafish pointed out this "tow rig" on another thread.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?s=&postid=1438952

I flat towed my buddy's sami with a 4.0 cherokee to Moab. Not a good idea!
I also towed with my girlfriend's 5.2 grand(tow dolly) and it towed like a dream. I was in the fastlane the whole way. No probs whatsoever.
Last year I got myself a 97 Dodge 1/2 ton 4wd with the 5.9. I also have a 16ft. trailer with duel axles and 4 brakes. I have no idea how much the trailer weighs, but its heavy. The truck is 6500lbs + the sami + the trailer = a lot of weight. The Grand is a little lighter so you would have some "passing power".Of course in the flats I can tow just fine. Its in the hills when it starts to lag. I just have to learn to take it easy.
Going up hills I'm in 3rd going 45-50 @2800-3000rpms. I also have 3.55 gears too. I think that 5'' llift , 35's and 4.56's should do the trick! :D :D
IMO the 5.2 or the 5.9 Grand will do fine, if you stick with flat towing or a dolly. Add a trailer and you'll be in the back of the pack.