the new formula#10 build (no booty fab!)

[a2b]

okay,,,,,, so i started over. here's the old build thread (http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=217569) after the jambo i went and got a STRAIGHT frame from jca. thanks for the hook up jc! its an IFS frame with loads of brackets and what not on it still...

http://www.thebestbuddies.com/pic/frame.jpg

so the last 2 weeks (with the help of dave (cragrat)) i have cut off and ground down and welded up all the holes, i am going to sand blast it and then paint it....i also learned that my welder was smitten with problems and thats why i could never get a good weld....now i am a pro :D

http://www.thebestbuddies.com/pic/frameclean.jpg

http://www.thebestbuddies.com/pic/lepor.jpg

dave came over today and we put the frame and motor on my trailer. i am going to continue to build it there so it will be mobile. saturday i am taking it to his house and we are going to fab up the motor mounts and tcase crossmember....

http://www.thebestbuddies.com/pic/trailer.jpg

even though i started over i am glad i did what i did cuz i learned alot and now i can do it right espicially since dave is officially on my team!!! and is pretty much leading the project..thanks Dave!!!

[Aaronn]

nothing like going backwards :flipoff2: :D

[Storm Trooper]

change your avitar

[Mustard Dog]

change your avitar

Not till he can proove his non-bootie status :D

[Air Ride]

change your avitar
na he's still the king until he is dethroned by a rival.

[Storm Trooper]

should i go out side and start taking pics?

[Wilson]

na he's still the king until he is dethroned by a rival.


I think San Diego CJ is in the lead for next years title. :flipoff2:

[4RnrRick]

Your old project wasn't that bad - was it??? Granted you got a little side tracked on that peddle assembly but you took care of that.

You might be careful on how many rigs you try building although you have a long ways to get to BoogerWeldz record......

[a2b]

Your old project wasn't that bad - was it??? ......

ya...my frame was jacked and my designs werent too great and all my welds were messed up pretty bad...i have it all under control now :D

[4RnrRick]

I forgot about that bent frame .....

[Aaronn]

This picture just needs to be here :flipoff2:

[a2b]

thanks aaronn :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

[whitebrowithafro]

BAWAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHA Thats too funny....I didn't realize it was that bad. Sorry bud, but I was at the Jambo, and was wondering what the hype was about. I don't know how I missed that :D :laughing:

Wish ya luck in the future :beer: and P.S. don't weld on painted, oily, or contaminated surfaces, not matter how quick you need to finish. Its just going to jeopardize your safety in the long run ;)

["The Boy"]

Man I remember taking off those brakets for the control arms not to long ago.. so you got it home and have been working on it ever since. Cool looks good! Keep up the good work and we well see you on the trail soon!

Boy

[CragRat]

For the record ...
Booty Fab and repairs...
1. Bent frame ... passenger rail was 1" higher than the other. (replaced the frame with a IFS frame from JCA, all brackets have now been removed and all the holes have been welded up and ground down for that "clean shaven" look)
2. Welding ... Proper assembly of the welder would have helped. If you can see "O" rings at the connection point, that is not good. (Repaired) I made him practice on some scrap before touching the frame. The welds that were made before the welder repair where basically without gas, no penetration and would have failed.
3. Pedal assembly ... Using the stock pedal assembly could have worked but removing the pedals from the cowl section would have been a good idea. (A Bling-Bling pedal assembly has been purchased and will be installed properly)
4. Transfer case mount welded to the belly pan ... :barf: A new transfer case mount and motor mounts will be fabbed up 5-15-04 moving the engine assembly back 8" and down 1".

I will help and guide him in his quest to be a "Formula Toy Player"
but, I will not build the rig for him.


Dave Vaughn
"CragRat"

["The Boy"]

I like the pink tube one the back of the frame. :p

Boy

[a2b]

I like the pink tube one the back of the frame. :p

Boy


its actually the front of the frame :p

[Mustard Dog]

its actually the front of the frame :p

Well it looks like he schooled you Boy :flipoff2:

[Tim Florian]

You guys are gettin it on the build up. Great work :smokin:

[JeepRecoveryTeam]

I will help and guide him in his quest to be a "Formula Toy Player"
but, I will not build the rig for him.





Hey Dave,

You gonna spot for him in August at the next comp?

You guys better get a move on if you're going to be ready.

d

[CragRat]

Hey Dave,

You gonna spot for him in August at the next comp?

You guys better get a move on if you're going to be ready.

d

I will have to ask Camo if it's in the rules for spotters to "add ballast" to thier bodies ... because you have an unfair advantage :flipoff2:

[RE:Todd]

[COLOR=DeepSkyBlue
I will help and guide him in his quest to be a "Formula Toy Player"
but, I will not build the rig for him.


[/COLOR]
Thanks Dave, he needs the guidance :D :D

[RedNeckRea]

is this build up going on in or near simi? if ya need a tool fetchin bitch (or someone to drink beer and watch :D) I can offer some assistance on weekends starting in june. lemme know

[jar head]

It's in North Hollywood

[a2b]

is this build up going on in or near simi? if ya need a tool fetchin bitch (or someone to drink beer and watch :D) I can offer some assistance on weekends starting in june. lemme know


sure...keep in touch...i build everyday at my house in north hollywood and sometimes i go to dave's and take it there in simi valley

[CragRat]

is this build up going on in or near simi? if ya need a tool fetchin bitch (or someone to drink beer and watch :D) I can offer some assistance on weekends starting in june. lemme know

I have plenty of people to sit around, watch and drink beer... "Haole" is the "Tool Bitch" ... but there is always room for more.

[a2b]

so last sat. i took the rig to dave's house and we had a blast. there was about 5 of us there and i had some cool pics, even a pic of a 1/10th scale rc rock crawler, but the camera was jacked and none of the pics came out.

we built the motor mounts out of 2" tube and just welded the end to the stock plate. we moved the motor back 8" exactly and down only about 3/8". this is an ifs frame thats why the motor mounts look high up off the frame.

dave also fabbed up the cross member to hold the transfercase. its 1/4" steel and it sits flush in the side of the frame and doesnt hang out the top or bottom. it bolts into the side. we will run a flat skid plate underneath the belly.

evertyhing is just tacked in...it needs to be full on welded and cleaned and painted. once i get everything together i am going to have the whole thing sand blasted and then we will finish the welds and paint it.

as you can see in the pics, i actually have a straght front cross member :D

i got my prp seats today. as you can see they are a tight fit. with tcase being that high, my passenger side might need to sit right behind the tcase. this may only work for me. i am the only formula that i know of that has this tranny. i have the L-52 tranny which is 6" shorter than the w-56, g-52, etc...so being back 8" with the short tranny, i have perfect front and rear drive angles. and i dont have to slap my pass seat right on top of the front output.


click on the pics below to make the bigger ;)
http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/519gallery/thumbnails/1.jpg (http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/519gallery/images/1.jpg)http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/519gallery/thumbnails/2.jpg (http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/519gallery/images/2.jpg)http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/519gallery/thumbnails/3.jpg (http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/519gallery/images/3.jpg)http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/519gallery/thumbnails/4.jpg (http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/519gallery/images/4.jpg)http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/519gallery/thumbnails/5.jpg (http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/519gallery/images/5.jpg)http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/519gallery/thumbnails/6.jpg (http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/519gallery/images/6.jpg)http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/519gallery/thumbnails/7.jpg (http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/519gallery/images/7.jpg)http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/519gallery/thumbnails/8.jpg (http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/519gallery/images/8.jpg)http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/519gallery/thumbnails/9.jpg (http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/519gallery/images/9.jpg)http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/519gallery/thumbnails/10.jpg (http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/519gallery/images/10.jpg)

[TNToy]

Looks good. I really like the way the crossmember looks. :D

But for sentimentaility points your shoulda just welded the OEM crossmember in there crooked so it matched the pedal assembly. :flipoff2:

EDIT: Oh yea, next time you make little thumbnail preview pictures, try 150-200 pixels. They're still tiny so dial-uppers can load a page fast, but you can SEE what's in the pics. :)

[Air Ride]

Hobie looks great I'm impressed and you got the mandatory "holding the steering wheel and making motor sounds" pic in. Very good, your learning fast.

[PAULR]

Looks great you guys :D :D :D

[Hammer Hog]

Hey Hobie,
Now you're on track :D Looking real nice :D
Keep it up and you'll be passin the crown real soon :D (After your build!)
Are ya going to make it to NorCal?

[jca]

Looks real good Hobie :D

[KSL]

I will have to ask Camo if it's in the rules for spotters to "add ballast" to thier bodies ... because you have an unfair advantage :flipoff2:

You could put me on your back. :flipoff2: Or i could join the team and spot if needed since I don't own my own rig. Right Aaronn. :D

[CragRat]

Getting this to be a "Roller" is the next big step. I think Hobie has most of the parts ...

[morpheus]

I have to call foul: In this picture you clearly aren't go vroom, vroom or making any sounds close to engine noises :D ... unless perhaps you were at WOT ... LOL

http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/519gallery/images/10.jpg

[Air Ride]

I have to call foul: In this picture you clearly aren't go vroom, vroom or making any sounds close to engine noises :D ... unless perhaps you were at WOT ... LOL

http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/519gallery/images/10.jpg
are you kidding me man, thats FWOT crankn a left hand donut on the lake bed. Of course he's not looking where he's going, instead he checking to see if the girls are impressed.

[JeepRecoveryTeam]

are you kidding me man, thats FWOT crankn a left hand donut on the lake bed. Of course he's not looking where he's going, instead he checking to see if the girls are impressed.

Don't lift until you straighten out... ask me how I know :flipoff2:

[jar head]

are you kidding me man, thats FWOT crankn a left hand donut on the lake bed. Of course he's not looking where he's going, instead he checking to see if the girls are impressed.


:D :laughing: :laughing:



It's good to see that it's coming along better and faster than the last attempt. It took me about 2 minutes to rip off that peddal assy on the last one. At least we know the welds on this one are going to hold up better. and with dave helping him every thing will at least be straight but Iwouldn't be gettin to eager to pass of that crown hobie has alot of work to do on that thing and if nobody is thare to guide him at the time who knows what could happen :eek: :D

[a2b]

I have to call foul: In this picture you clearly aren't go vroom, vroom or making any sounds close to engine noises :D ...


thats cuz i just got finished making the motor sound, then i made the stall sound and then the engine quit on me during the steep incline. dont you notice the steep angle that the buggy is at :D

steve, it will be tough to make by aug 20th. just depends how smoothly things go together. i will be there either way, hopefully with a running buggy.

and dont worry, by the end of this, i feel confident that i can pass the crown off to a worthy candidate.

KSL, after seeing dave spot john at the last cal rocs event, i decided i need a 6'5" 350 pounder for a spotter, is that you??? :D

[SR5Dave]

decided i need a 6'5" 350 pounder for a spotter, is that you??? :D

I'm 6'4", 275 and can lift a rig by myself? I'm also looking for a free ride to comps.... ;)

The rig is looking way better, keep it up!

[a2b]

I'm 6'4", 275 and can lift a rig by myself?

you can lift a rig by yourself :eek:

[KSL]

KSL, after seeing dave spot john at the last cal rocs event, i decided i need a 6'5" 350 pounder for a spotter, is that you???

I am only 6'4" 260 :D so I am not quite Dave (JRT) size but a whole lot biger than Dave (Cragrat) and still larger than most.

Watching all the Formula Toys being put together and watching them perform a few times almost makes me want to start a third (or is that fourth) project that will never get done.

[Haole]

Sounds like your getting a team together Hobie. Just need to get that rig done now. What's the plans for this weekend?

[Hammer Hog]

I'm 6'4", 275 and can lift a rig by myself? I'm also looking for a free ride to comps.... ;)


If Hobie can't use ya, I can :D :D :D

BTW, I'm now using Bellfields, so you don't have worry about lifting my rig to change out a @#*field :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

[SR5Dave]

If Hobie can't use ya, I can :D :D :D

BTW, I'm now using Bellfields, so you don't have worry about lifting my rig to change out a @#*field :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

I will spot for food and beer :D

Hope the bells work out for ya! Sounded like you were having some problems with the other _ _ _fields!

[Hammer Hog]

I will spot for food and beer :D

Hope the bells work out for ya! Sounded like you were having some problems with the other _ _ _fields!


You're on!!!!

And ya! Guess ya get what ya pay for, $79.00 ea. :barf:
Well not even that. Busted 3 in a row on first runs :shaking: 3 strikes apply :( :laughing:
Still have one more NIB
Saving it for White Elephant gift exchange :laughing:

[a2b]

What's the plans for this weekend?

well i am headed away for the weekend with the wife. i wish we were headed back to dave's house for more fun. but monday when i get back i am going to cut the peices and tack the chassis on. and then next weeked we will start putting the foor in after we get the seats in. also putting the rear spring hangers on.

[RE:Todd]

You guys stop talking bad about Team TinBenders secret weapon :D :D



Hobie, you're almost ready to come out and play with the big boys :D

If you don't make August (3 months away), get a big "L" tattoed on your forehead :flipoff2:

[a2b]

If you don't make August (3 months away), get a big "L" tattoed on your forehead :flipoff2:


great, even more added pressure to be done by then. i will do my best. its killing me that this weekend i have to take my wife on vacation for 4 days. i would rather be building my rig!!!

[braxton357]

Cragrat, I notice that you always get conned into building these losers junk (a2b, bob, etc.). Are you at least getting some lovin back?? :flipoff2:

[Haole]

Cragrat, I notice that you always get conned into building these losers junk (a2b, bob, etc.). Are you at least getting some lovin back?? :flipoff2:


Shouldn't you be studying for some class or some shit. How about learning how to post a correct map to Taco Bell or something?

[CragRat]

Cragrat, I notice that you always get conned into building these losers junk (a2b, bob, etc.). Are you at least getting some lovin back?? :flipoff2:
Where do you think I get all these cool tools to play with ...

[JeepRecoveryTeam]

I'm 6'4", 275 and can lift a rig by myself?

Big deal... I can roll a rig with one hand :flipoff2: :D

[KSL]

Big deal... I can roll a rig with one hand :flipoff2: :D
Tinbender did just fine at 6' 150lbs (i think i am being generous) with your rig. Maybe it was you calling him a pussy or maybe he just works that much harder. :flipoff2:

[SR5Dave]

Big deal... I can roll a rig with one hand :flipoff2: :D

Next time we're out at an event together we'll have to have a rig rolling comp... you're on!! :flipoff2:

[SanDiegoCJ]

Next time we're out at an event together we'll have to have a rig rolling comp... you're on!! :flipoff2:


You against JRT in a rig rolling contest ??? :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Now that's humor. :flipoff2:

[SR5Dave]

You against JRT in a rig rolling contest ??? :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Now that's humor. :flipoff2:

Quiet old fart, you couldn't upright your lark if your tried :flipoff2:

[SanDiegoCJ]

Quiet old fart, you couldn't upright your lark if your tried :flipoff2:


Maybe so, but I have 2 wheelable 4x4's, how many do you have. :flipoff2:

[SR5Dave]

Maybe so, but I have 2 wheelable 4x4's, how many do you have. :flipoff2:

One and a HALF :flipoff2: :flipoff2: (ok, so the ONE is stock...)

[a2b]

okay so dave and i did some work today. we put in the front springs and measure where the front shackles are going. the springs are 4" alcan springs, stock length. we will sleeve the shackle hole at 43" from front center of front hanger. keep in mind this is an ifs frame so we have no original shackle hole. we tacked in the chassis 1.5" above the frame. we also tacked in the rear hangers. they are the all pro rear hangers. the rear springs are the 4" all pro springs. we inboarded them all the way up in the frame and they are almost as narrrow as the front springs. hope it works well. looks like our wheelbase is 106"...

click on pics to make them bigger :)

http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/528gallery/thumbnails/dave.jpg
(http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/528gallery/images/dave.jpg)
http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/528gallery/thumbnails/frontshackles.jpg
(http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/528gallery/images/frontshackles.jpg)
http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/528gallery/thumbnails/secret.jpg
(http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/528gallery/images/secret.jpg)

[misfitcj]

could you blow those pics

[Napoleon047]

could you blow those pics
try clicking on them

a2b, is that uni-strut?? i assume its temporary and not your shock mounts or anything

[a2b]

try clicking on them

a2b, is that uni-strut??

no, its a secret :D

[misfitcj]

damn it intranet foiled me again........ltr

[Haole]

Are you sure Dave's working on that? There's nothing purple on it.

[a2b]

Are you sure Dave's working on that? There's nothing purple on it.


thats cuz someone hid the paint :D

[CragRat]

Hey, Guess what I found ?

:flipoff2:

[Aaronn]

well.....lets see what's going on :D

[a2b]

well.....lets see what's going on :D

yesterday i smashed my finger between tubes and i think i am going to lose my nail,,,aaahhhhh!!!!!!!

i was told to relieve the pressure by taking a needle and making a hole in the middle of the nail and letting it bleed from there. so i might just take a small drill bit and put my finger in the drill press just to make it intresting :eek:

[CragRat]

Take Pictures ...

[a2b]

well.....lets see what's going on :D


here, i just finished this.

http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/rearhousing.jpg


nice clean housing :D

[SR5Dave]

yesterday i smashed my finger between tubes and i think i am going to lose my nail,,,aaahhhhh!!!!!!!

i was told to relieve the pressure by taking a needle and making a hole in the middle of the nail and letting it bleed from there. so i might just take a small drill bit and put my finger in the drill press just to make it intresting :eek:

A very small well fluted drill bit is the ticket ;)

[a2b]

A very small well fluted drill bit is the ticket ;)


aaahhh. i see someone has experience. i am still waiting for my finger to turn purple like they told me it would, if it does, then i will drill it

[a2b]

a friend came over today and took some pics with his camera. mine sucks so these pics came out way better than the ones i tried to take. the motor mount is just tacked in right now. i will finish welding it when we get to that point. you can see our own fabbed up crossmember that is flush with the top and bottom of the frame. and the rear hanger is an all pro rear hanger, then we added the top peice to inboard and then we just have to put in the sides of the hanger that we will plasma cut a shape that will give the hanger its support that it needs. it should look nice! the hanger sits almost as narrows as the front springs and its tucked up all the way to the frame.



click on pics to make them bigger :)

http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/66/thumb/motormount.jpg

(http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/66/motormount.jpg)
http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/66/thumb/rearinboard.jpg

(http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/66/rearinboard.jpg)
http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/66/thumb/crossmember.jpg
(http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/66/crossmember.jpg)

[Air Ride]

Looks like your motor is 2 or 3 inches higher than stock. What up with that.

cross member looks cool, but don't forget to leave room for the exhaust.

[PAULR]

Damn Hobie your welds are looking good... :D :D :D

[Aaronn]

Looks like your motor is 2 or 3 inches higher than stock. What up with that.

cross member looks cool, but don't forget to leave room for the exhaust.
IFS frame...frame horns are lower in front :)

[Air Ride]

IFS frame...frame horns are lower in front :)
forgot he changed the frame

[a2b]

Looks like your motor is 2 or 3 inches higher than stock. What up with that.

cross member looks cool, but don't forget to leave room for the exhaust.


ya it looks funny doesnt it....ya we got room for the exhaust (i hope) :D

[4RnrRick]

L@@K'N GOOD. I like what you did with the rear springs hangers! Looks nice and bomber once they are gusseted.

[a2b]

L@@K'N GOOD. I like what you did with the rear springs hangers! Looks nice and bomber once they are gusseted.


thanks :)


so i finally welded up the last hole on the frame :) man, that took forever...cut off everybracket, grind them down, then weldup every single hole and then grind it down and then flap it......sheeeesh.....

i also just tracked down my hubs and rotors. i sent them to mike for the official "hendrix hub mod". i had him drill my rotors as well. now i will make this thing a roller saturday.

http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/hubs.jpg

[Lemoore-on]

:smokin: Cool! It looks much better :flipoff2:

[a2b]

:smokin: Cool! It looks much better :flipoff2:

at least i wont be shearing studds off at comps :grinpimp:

[a2b]

well with the help of me, russ, bob and dave. we got the rear crossmember in with jonny joints. finished the hangers for the rear. drilled and sleeved the shackle hole for the front springs and got it actually rollin :D

screw pics :flipoff2:

[Haole]

screw pics :flipoff2:


No way dude. You're not getting off that easy.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=132115&stc=1

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=132112&stc=1

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[Haole]

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=132119&stc=1

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=132120&stc=1

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=132117&stc=1

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http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=132118&stc=1

[a2b]

okay so the rig stand 6'5" tall at the top of the chassis. right now it has 28" of ground clearence. i figure once the springs settle and another 1000 lbs are added, it will sit lower and everything should balance out...

[Air Ride]

looking good but your front shackles are on backwards

[a2b]

looking good but your front shackles are on backwards


well actually, the other way the will rub when the spring droops. they look like they will rub on the inside frame foward of the shackle. thats why we turned them around....

[a2b]

looking good but your front shackles are on backwards

does it matter which way the shackles are turned??

[CSR]

does it matter which way the shackles are turned??

No, not on your frame. I needed 'banana' shackles on my truck to keep from hitting the body mount when the spring compressed. You no longer have that body mount, so it doesn't matter which way they're mounted. ;)

[a2b]

No, not on your frame. I needed 'banana' shackles on my truck to keep from hitting the body mount when the spring compressed. You no longer have that body mount, so it doesn't matter which way they're mounted. ;)


thats what i had thought but just wanted to make sure...

[4RnrRick]

Looking good! AND better than the last build!

I'm been meaning to ask this for a while now... When the rules say the chassis must be supplied by an approved vendor does that also mean that no modifications can be done to it? If I built a Formula Toy I would probably have to shorten up the lower side bars, behind the front tire and in front of the rear tire to allow for a bit shorter wheelbase but that would take some major tweaking. Okay I'm getting sidetracked.....I see that you cut the front hoop off. Is that LEGAL by the Formula rules??? And if it is, what chassis mods are legal?

[camo]

That bar is a optional when you order your chassis...so you don't have to keep it

[4RnrRick]

Thanks Camo....... So other than that, am I correct is saying you can NOT modify, tweak, remove or change the chassis in any other way? Could a formula guy bend the hood portion of the chassis down legally? (like what Wilson did) Just curious on whats legal to do and still being able to pass tech..... If I'm gettting out in NeverNeverLand - just tell me to go fly a kite or PM me because I don't want to hijack the thread to much.....

[a2b]

Looking good! .....If I built a Formula Toy I would probably have to shorten up the lower side bars, behind the front tire and in front of the rear tire to allow for a bit shorter wheelbase

thanks. luckily i have made some friends :D we had 4 guys at the house that day working on it. thanks guys!!!!

but as far as making the wheelbase shorter, that is kind of tough cuz you lose your approach and departure angles. then if you move the motor back but want to move your rear axel up, that makes your rear drive shaft angle worse. with 38's i measure 106" would be the shortest i could go without hitting the chassis. right now i have stock sized springs, but i want some springs that move the axel foward, once i get those i think my wheelbase will be like 109" or close to it. i put a 1" spacer relocation plate on the front so my wheelbase is now 107". these 56" rear springs are pretty long. i could defintely see how some 51's will help the departure angle.
just to get the 56's on, the frame sticks out that back farther than the chassis.
see.
-http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=132116&stc=1

and i think i might have to move the shackle mount back another inch cuz there is no weight on it right now and my shackle angle is already at 30*

[a2b]

i had a friend come over and he took pics of the rig and did the quick time virtual reality thing its pretty cool.

here is the link to download the pic. then you can move around and zoom in. just click on "rock crawler".

panaramic photo (http://homepage.mac.com/WebObjects/FileSharing.woa/9/wo/Y1gXvde03yrmii0A.1/0.2.1.2.22.31.97.2.35.0.1.1.1?user=bentonscott&fpath=Panoramic%20Images&templatefn=FileSharing16.html)

thats pretty cool.

here are some other pics that he took with his nice camera
rear chassis mount (http://homepage.mac.com/bentonscott/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/2004-06-23%2020.49.17%20-0700/Image-DD75EAAEC58F11D8.jpg)

rear cross bar (http://homepage.mac.com/bentonscott/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/2004-06-23%2020.49.17%20-0700/Image-DD75FF54C58F11D8.jpg)

grinding (http://homepage.mac.com/bentonscott/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/2004-06-23%2020.49.17%20-0700/Image-DD761E98C58F11D8.jpg)


notching (http://homepage.mac.com/bentonscott/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/2004-06-23%2020.49.17%20-0700/Image-DD762E7DC58F11D8.jpg)

right now the chassis is tacked in by temp means. by this weekend i will have it tacked in place with tube at the right places. 3 on the sides. then 2 in the front and rear.
also i am putting an x thru the chassis to the frame. prolly right on top of the rear spring hanger

[a2b]

well i got my one wheel to finally stop leaking. i took a tube of silicone 2 that i got from the depot. then smeared a thick layer over the bead around the wheel. then waited 24hr and then did it again. then waited 24hr and then aired it up. and then waited another 24hr and the wheel didnt lose any aire during that time, and the biggest difference is that you actually dont hear air coming out of it after youved air it up.

BTW 32 bolts for the rockstomper beadlocks is alot of freaking bolts to tighten. i have takent that wheel apart sooo many times now, i hope i dont ever have to do it again for a long while

[jar head]

Sounds like things are crusin along pretty good :D How's things lookin for the august run? ya think you'll make it?

[a2b]

Sounds like things are crusin along pretty good :D How's things lookin for the august run? ya think you'll make it?


doubt it....

[RE:Todd]

doubt it....Better get a hold of Dog, he can get his tatoo guy to put the big "L" on your forehead :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

[a2b]

Better get a hold of Dog, he can get his tatoo guy to put the big "L" on your forehead :flipoff2: :flipoff2:


i know i know. but it is coming together sooooooo slowly, its killin me :rolleyes:

[Wilson]

i know i know. but it is coming together sooooooo slowly, its killin me :rolleyes:


Still faster than mine

[SanDiegoCJ]

Hobie, it's looking real nice. Just keep after it and you'll be done before you know it. :D

[a2b]

Hobie, it's looking real nice. Just keep after it and you'll be done before you know it. :D

thanks :D

[a2b]

here is what we got done sat. we got the seats mounted, the chassis officially mounted and started the pedals. we used 1" tube .120 wall for the seats and the fire wall and pedal mounts. we still have to run some more tube for the seats and definetly for the pedals. there is another mount on the pedals right behind the frirst mount. the plan is to run tube from those to the sides where i drew the red lines. and also continue the tube straight down from the top as well from the first mount. my seats are rocked back a bit to make it more comfortable and to help get those legs up to push the pedals.

FYI: the seats are prp and are 22" wide according to their site. the front is rocked back a few inches and the rear tabs sit on top of the frame rail. with the L-52 tranny the seats clear about 1/4" from the tcase but the seats are shuved up against and touching the hendrix chassis. the seats could not be mounted any lower, thats another good reason to rock the seats back. they wont fit in there totally flat on top of the frame.

BTW my wheelbase is 108.5"

http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/73/front.jpg

http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/73/pedal.jpg

http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/73/pedaldiagram.jpg

http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/73/seat.jpg

http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/73/seatmount.jpg

http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/73/underseat.jpg

http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/73/wall.jpg

[misfitcj]

this thread is excellent, gread pics and good discribtion through out the thread. I can't wait to get state side and start building............a2b what thickness of floor pan are you planing on ?

[a2b]

this thread is excellent, great pics and good discribtion through out the thread. I can't wait to get state side and start building............a2b what thickness of floor pan are you planing on ?

thanks. i have some 10guage laying around that i will prolly use. or i might get some diamond pated like camo's and pauls...its not a big peice, just where the feet go. then it will open like comp style where the pedals are...

[PAULR]

I saw his rig this morning and the fab work is so clean... :cool2:

[CragRat]

thanks. i have some 10guage laying around that i will prolly use. or i might get some diamond pated like camo's and pauls...its not a big peice, just where the feet go. then it will open like comp style where the pedals are...

I have plans for the floor ...

[Reno Rich]

Polycarbonite-or just leave him suspended over midair! Save weight, stay cool. Might be a little dangerous I suppose. Dang, the Formula trucks looks fun! I might have to build one, once I get a garage.

[Hammer Hog]

It's looking real good Hobie. Your pedals are sweet. Vic called me today and said my Wilwood Pedals are finally in the mail :D
Missed ya at the John Bull trail last Saturday. Ran it in my recently 6" lifted Suburban w/35's
http://www.sandtastictoys.com/Sub1.JPG
Had no choice to run it...no green stickers allowed (My Formula Rig) and my new street legal 87 Xcab project is just under way :D

[a2b]

no green stickers allowed


what! :eek: that sucks. i wanted to run that trail in #10... i guess thats a good reason to have a street legal vehicle. its cool you got that other toy for one. i found a nice 1984 4runner the other day for about 1500 bucks. but my wife wouldnt let me get it. BUT, she said that i could get a jeep, lol. i tried to explain how much cheaper a toy would be, plus all the spare parts and stuff i have would just double with a whole nother rig. so instead of buy a 1500 4runner, she found a 3500 YJ for sale that she wants me to get :shaking:

[Hammer Hog]

what! :eek: that sucks. i wanted to run that trail in #10... i guess thats a good reason to have a street legal vehicle. its cool you got that other toy for one. i found a nice 1984 4runner the other day for about 1500 bucks. but my wife wouldnt let me get it. BUT, she said that i could get a jeep, lol. i tried to explain how much cheaper a toy would be, plus all the spare parts and stuff i have would just double with a whole nother rig. so instead of buy a 1500 4runner, she found a 3500 YJ for sale that she wants me to get :shaking:

Might as well get the jeep. Then ya can trick it out and take her for a ride and when she see's that it really does suck, then she'll want you to sell it. Then you will have enough $$$ to buy 2 Toys (His and Hers) :D :D

[too_slow]

Hammer Dawg,
Jeeps might suck, but as I recall the Cuz' Jeep as well as my barbi sammy cleared the 4inch boulder where your subarban got hung up, just between the trees.

[Hammer Hog]

Hammer Dawg,
Jeeps might suck, but as I recall the Cuz' Jeep as well as my barbi sammy cleared the 4inch boulder where your subarban got hung up, just between the trees.

Hey, who let ya out of the Suzsucki forum?
Hung up?, ya right! I was trying not to do body damage to my wifes fullsize Suburban on John Bull, never was stuck as seen here (http://extremewheelers4christ.org/images/P7030066.jpg). As I can recall on several occations, we have to park your Suzpucki :barf: down the hill due to the fact that the trails we run have rocks on them! :laughing:
BTW, your dad's jeep rocks. And my wifes Suburban is just a Suburban, However your dad's jeep doesn't know Jack :laughing:............ yet :D

[splatt]

what pedals are you using and how much were they?

[a2b]

they are wilwood pedals. you can go to their site and see all the different models that they have. it cost around 150 for the pedals, and then 50 or something for each master cylinder. expensive but they are real nice

[rustynuts]

hey hobie, looking good. how's it comin?

[a2b]

we are getting more done..i will take some more pics...

uh, i need to lenghten my throttle cable...any body got a spare throttle cable to i can splice into mine and make it longer?

[Hammer Hog]

we are getting more done..i will take some more pics...

uh, i need to lenghten my throttle cable...any body got a spare throttle cable to i can splice into mine and make it longer?

Bikeshop

[81toy420]

This picture just needs to be here
Attached Images
:clown: :clown2: :laughing: :laughing:

[PAULR]

Post some new pics of your rig. I'm gonna try and stop by this weekend and check it out. I wish I was going to be ready by the next event.:(
It's about time you got it done... you have enough people helping you. lol :flipoff2:

[misfitcj]

damn it man, I got all excited thinking that it was some new stuff don't do that to me :flipoff2: ........ltr Pat

[a2b]

damn it man, I got all excited thinking that it was some new stuff don't do that to me :flipoff2: ........ltr Pat

:laughing:
ya i know what you mean. i see a build thread put back up at the top and then i am like "sweet!" and then i click on the last page to find chit chat :shaking:

[a2b]

Post some new pics of your rig. I'm gonna try and stop by this weekend and check it out. I wish I was going to be ready by the next event.:(
It's about time you got it done... you have enough people helping you. lol :flipoff2:


ya ya, whatever. dont worry. i will get it done....

[rustynuts]

looking good hobie. any idea when you'll be ready for the maiden voyage? :)

[a2b]

looking good hobie. any idea when you'll be ready for the maiden voyage? :)

if everything goes well. it will be a few weeks, just in time for the next comp. it wont be totally pollished and finished looking, just wheelable

[a2b]

alright suckers :flipoff2: after taking a month off to work on my house. i spent the last 2 weeks spending alot of time on the rig.

there has been alot of work done to it since i last posted pics....

chassis mounts
gas tanks
seat belt
catch can
radiator
battery
air compressor
steering
front and rear shocks
floor
steering resevoir
gm alt.
rebuilt front axel
johnny joints
x member
pedal assembly and mc's
rear round shaft
front square shaft
etc.....all that stuff is fabbed up and in, still have alot to do. still on the list to do: final weld, electrical, gauges, dash, fuel lines, brakes....

click on pics to make them larger :)
and then keep your fingers crossed that it all works right!

http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/904gallery/thumbnails/1.jpg (http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/904gallery/images/1.jpg)

http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/904gallery/thumbnails/2.jpg (http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/904gallery/images/2.jpg)

http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/904gallery/thumbnails/3.jpg (http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/904gallery/images/3.jpg)

http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/904gallery/thumbnails/4.jpg (http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/904gallery/images/4.jpg)

[a2b]

http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/904gallery/thumbnails/5.jpg (http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/904gallery/images/5.jpg)

http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/904gallery/thumbnails/6.jpg (http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/904gallery/images/6.jpg)

http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/904gallery/thumbnails/7.jpg (http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/904gallery/images/7.jpg)

[a2b]

http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/904gallery/thumbnails/8.jpg (http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/904gallery/images/8.jpg)

http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/904gallery/thumbnails/9.jpg (http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/904gallery/images/9.jpg)

http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/904gallery/thumbnails/10.jpg (http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/904gallery/images/10.jpg)

http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/904gallery/thumbnails/11.jpg (http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/904gallery/images/11.jpg)

[Aaronn]

paint that ugly thing :flipoff2: :D

[a2b]

paint that ugly thing :flipoff2: :D

it is painted. dont you know "junkyard camo" when you see ithttp://www.s-10crewcab.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/icon_lol.gif

[a2b]

got more done today :D

[Hammer Hog]

got more done today :D



Well?!

Like what?

[PAULR]

3 Weeks And Counting Can You Guys Make It? Looks Good.

[a2b]

Well?!

Like what?

more stuff :flipoff2:

no camera today :p :p

[PAULR]

ya ya, whatever. dont worry. i will get it done....


What's this "I will get it done" sheit ?? I thought someone else was building your rig for you. :flipoff2:

[a2b]

What's this "I will get it done" sheit ?? I thought someone else was building your rig for you. :flipoff2:

:rolleyes: :shaking:



....its called TEAM HOBIE :flipoff2:

[CragRat]

What's this "I will get it done" sheit ?? I thought someone else was building your rig for you. :flipoff2:

Paul, Do I need to build your rig for you as well ?






:flipoff2:





.

[PAULR]

Paul, Do I need to build your rig for you as well ?
:flipoff2:

.

At the rate you guys are going I might be done before you :flipoff2:lol. Just kidding the rig looks great. :D Looks like you guys will be ready for the next event. :)

[a2b]

yesterday we built the floor/int. and took it all apart and primed it. today i started painting. i will finish up tommorrow

enough chit chat...here are some pics :grinpimp:


http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/formulatoy/9704/thumbnails/2.jpg (http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/formulatoy/9704/images/2.jpg)

http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/formulatoy/9704/thumbnails/4.jpg (http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/formulatoy/9704/images/4.jpg)

http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/formulatoy/9704/thumbnails/5.jpg (http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/formulatoy/9704/images/5.jpg)

http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/formulatoy/9704/thumbnails/6.jpg (http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/formulatoy/9704/images/6.jpg)

[Heywood]

dammit!, Just when I thought I was catching up to you :(
you go and put it in high gear.
Looks like you ll be driving it soon.
Are you going to the next comp?

[a2b]

dammit!, Just when I thought I was catching up to you :(
you go and put it in high gear.
Looks like you ll be driving it soon.
Are you going to the next comp?


ya i was wondering if you were catching up to me....yes, i hope to be drving soon and to be at the next comp :)

[Hammer Hog]

Nice color! :D

[a2b]

Nice color! :D

how many blue formulas are there now?

[RedNeckRea]

how many blue formulas are there now?
3 for sure. but the others are dark blue and yours looks like a lot lighter shade. :p

[a2b]

3 for sure. but the others are dark blue and yours looks like a lot lighter shade. :p

actually, its a little richer color than in the picture. my digi camera washes color out :(

[Lemoore-on]

Hey CragRat, What happened to the color we talked about at Moonlight Maddness? :flipoff2:

[CragRat]

Hey CragRat, What happened to the color we talked about at Moonlight Maddness? :flipoff2:
Refresh my memory ... I was drinking that day ...







Was it "Lemoore-on PINK" ?

[Hammer Hog]

Hey Hobie, what's that rear shackle mount look like close up?
http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/formulatoy/9704/images/5.jpg

[a2b]

Hey Hobie, what's that rear shackle mount look like close up?
http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/formulatoy/9704/images/5.jpg

i'll have to a get a pic tommorrow, but its just tabs welded to a cross bar on top and the bottom tabs are welded to the top plate. they are angled in a bit like this / \. just rancho 9012's...nothin special

you can see them here

shock mount1 (http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/904gallery/images/2.jpg)

shock mount2 (http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/904gallery/images/4.jpg)

[numtel]

Hey Hobie, what's that rear shackle mount look like close up?


Not shock, shackle. I want to see aswell.

[Lemoore-on]

Refresh my memory ... I was drinking that day ...







Was it "Lemoore-on PINK" ?

So was I

C'mon Now, you know the Lemoore-on color is Leopard spots :flipoff2:

[a2b]

Not shock, shackle. I want to see aswell.

oops..i read to fast....its the jonny joint form all pro. same as yours steve...i will get a pic

[a2b]

more work done. no camera

[rustynuts]

comin along quick. you gonna be around for thanksgiving. we're heading to pismo that weekend and am bringing the buggy.

gotta get paint on mine before then. putting it off though. good work hobie.

[a2b]

comin along quick. you gonna be around for thanksgiving. we're heading to pismo that weekend and am bringing the buggy.

gotta get paint on mine before then. putting it off though. good work hobie.

thanks for the invite dave, but i have to do the family thing that weekend up at big bear......

hope to have it running asap and then wheelable in a week or so

[CragRat]

Update ... Hobie picked it up from my place yesterday 4pm and headed for the hammers ...

[a2b]

Update ... Hobie picked it up from my place yesterday 4pm and headed for the hammers ...


update: just got back.................................forgot to take pics :rolleyes: the rigs first trip to the hammers and it didnt leave the trailer :laughing:

[Haole]

update: just got back.................................forgot to take pics :rolleyes: the rigs first trip to the hammers and it didnt leave the trailer :laughing:

Yeah, but it looked good sitting on the trailer.

[a2b]

Yeah, but it looked good sitting on the trailer.

you are bias though.......cuz you helped :p

[Butler]

Crap, I didn't even get to see it. :(

[a2b]

Crap, I didn't even get to see it. :(

you can see it when you come over and help work on it sat :D

[Butler]

you can see it when you come over and help work on it sat :D
Your house or Dave's and what time?

[a2b]

Your house or Dave's and what time?

mine...8am :D

[Butler]

I'll come around 10 ish. Cool? Need anything?

[Heywood]

Hey Hobie, I saw your rig out on the lake bed. It was looking pretty sweet.
I asked a couple of guys if they were Hobie, but they were just guys checking out your rig.
I heard you were gonna change a bunch of stuff :confused:
Any advice to those of us who are a few steps behind you?

And, are those 38.5s or 38"s? you got on there

[a2b]

Hey Hobie, I saw your rig out on the lake bed. It was looking pretty sweet.
I asked a couple of guys if they were Hobie, but they were just guys checking out your rig.
I heard you were gonna change a bunch of stuff :confused:
Any advice to those of us who are a few steps behind you?

And, are those 38.5s or 38"s? you got on there


thanks...they are 38's...
uh...advice...i need to wheel it next week and i will let you know

[a2b]

IT RUNS IT RUNS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D :D :D :D



here is the actual first time i drove it...right out of the garage.. (www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/firstdrive.WMV)



http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/frontcomp.jpg

http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/sidecomp.jpg

[Tim Florian]

Looking Good!!!

Oh and the buggy looks o.k. also :laughing:

[Haole]

Is it me or is there something missing there?

Shouldn't you have your crown painted on the side? :laughing:

[b2dude]

you stalled it buahahaha :flipoff2:

[offroad_joe]

It's about F'N time! You coming out to the Hammers next weekend?
If your going to take pictures of your wifes ass getting in and out, the least
you could do is hold the camera still :flipoff2: See Ya at the Hammers if your coming.

[a2b]

It's about F'N time! You coming out to the Hammers next weekend?
If your going to take pictures of your wifes ass getting in and out, the least
you could do is hold the camera still :flipoff2: See Ya at the Hammers if your coming.

okay i will show you another video thats better next time :smokin:

and yes i will be at the hammers friday. hope all goes well this week getting ready. the rig still runs bad so i have to time her up, fix the vacuum leaks, and finish the exhaust system (which is also why it didnt run too good in the video)

[Aaronn]

cool............ now lets see that other video :D

[toyrunner]

cool............ now lets see that other video :D
+1

[a2b]

cool............ now lets see that other video :D


sure thing, here is a snap shot of underneath (http://www20.brinkster.com/a2ba213b/paulfrontend.JPG)

:eek:

[a2b]

well, just got back from the hammer on her first test run and wheeling trip. all went well and didnt brake nothin. this thing can wheel like crazy..thanks to jc, dave, crusty, john, mike, lemorreon, tommy...and the rest of the benders for helping me out this weekend! i was sure to have broken some stuff if they hadnt noticed all the things that needed to be addressed...like missing nuts :laughing: yall are the nicest group of guys i have wheeled with yet. and thanks to joe for helping me out on the side of the I-15 (even though someone else from this weekend just passed on by :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: )

anywho....

here are some highlights that we were able to get (http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/firstwheelintrip.WMV)


i ran slege for the rig's first run...i ran the last half of it with no lights in the dark..then got lost on the way back to camp....those bomb craters filled with water sure do come up on you fast with no headlights :laughing: the next day i ran aftershock and didnt have any trouble with that either. sunday morning, i went over to back door, but my tires just werent stickin it and i didnt really feel like laying the hammer down any more than i had to....so i just backed off and luckily didnt go over, but my passenger had a good view :laughing:

[RedNeckRea]

sorry I couldn't get ya up backdoor hobie. ya gave it a good shot at least. get that carb tuned and next time you'll get it.

btw...rig looks friggen great in person.

[Hammer Hog]

Your rig looks great! Heard that it did very well. Bummer we didn't get a chance to run ours together. Sunday morning we played around the top of Outer Limits then came back to hook up with you just around lunch. Heard we just missed ya and then saw that the whole Bender camp was gone :( Heard they packed out early. Looking foreward to running with ya on the 11th-14th of Nov at the Hammers, see ya then :D

[a2b]

Your rig looks great! Heard that it did very well. Bummer we didn't get a chance to run ours together. Sunday morning we played around the top of Outer Limits then came back to hook up with you just around lunch. Heard we just missed ya and then saw that the whole Bender camp was gone :( Heard they packed out early. Looking foreward to running with ya on the 11th-14th of Nov at the Hammers, see ya then :D

ya steve, the rest of us have to drive home...we are local :p :p :p
ya i have some work to do before then, basically the priority is to just get it running better...shouldnt be a problem

[a2b]

sorry I couldn't get ya up backdoor hobie. ya gave it a good shot at least. get that carb tuned and next time you'll get it.

btw...rig looks friggen great in person.

thanks...ya, i just dont think my tires were stickin at all..no biggie

[a2b]

so do i still have to be BOOTY FAB? or can i change my avatar yet?

to like this
:D
http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/backdoorphoto.jpg



or do i have to wait till the jambo to pass the crown and avatar off?

[Hammer Hog]

so do i still have to be BOOTY FAB? or can i change my avatar yet?

to like this
:D
http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/backdoorphoto.jpg



or do i have to wait till the jambo to pass the crown and avatar off?

Can't use that avatar unless you actually made that waterfall. Not sure about the when part, that will have to come from the Benders :laughing:

[PAULR]

Nice... More video.... :) :) :)

[JeepRecoveryTeam]

so do i still have to be BOOTY FAB? or can i change my avatar yet?


You have a one year obligation, sorry.





























:flipoff2:

[a2b]

You have a one year obligation, sorry.



cool. i have the actual crown still. i think the winner should be responsible for adding to the out fit of "BOOTY FAB PRINCESS"....then they have to wear the outfit and go run a trail. so next year, i might bring the crown and a dress to pass off :flipoff2:

[SLO_Crawlers]

What happened to your truck on the side of the road? We were in the fast lane backed up in traffic and couldn't get over to see what was up. Sorry, my friend was driving for me after I had a rough Saturday night. Hope everything worked out.

[a2b]

What happened to your truck on the side of the road? We were in the fast lane backed up in traffic and couldn't get over to see what was up. Sorry, my friend was driving for me after I had a rough Saturday night. Hope everything worked out.

ya, thanks for stopping :flipoff:

joe didnt have a problem stopping :rolleyes:

thanks joe..i was up a creek without you, and i had to be to work in a few hours..i wouldnt of made it if hadnt stopped.............


my fuel pump went out in my front tank and all i needed was a few gallons of gas, i thought i was saved when i saw your rig coming down the highway, but then you just rolled right on by :mad3: then i was about to suck the gas out of my toy into a plastic jug to put in my rear tank when i saw joe coming...of course he stopped and all was cool

[Tim Florian]

ya, thanks for stopping :flipoff:

joe didnt have a problem stopping :rolleyes:

thanks joe..i was up a creek without you, and i had to be to work in a few hours..i wouldnt of made it if hadnt stopped.............


my fuel pump went out in my front tank and all i needed was a few gallons of gas, i thought i was saved when i saw your rig coming down the highway, but then you just rolled right on by :mad3: then i was about to suck the gas out of my toy into a plastic jug to put in my rear tank when i saw joe coming...of course he stopped and all was cool


:eek: Note to self: If you ever see Hobie on the side of the road--STOP and HELP him. :eek:

[SLO_Crawlers]

Bummer.

[PAULR]

What happened to your truck on the side of the road? We were in the fast lane backed up in traffic and couldn't get over to see what was up. Sorry, my friend was driving for me after I had a rough Saturday night. Hope everything worked out.


Why would anyone be so farken stupid that they would admit to not stopping and helping another wheeler while he or she was broken down? I hope the same shiet happens to him on trail. I always thought the 4X4 community was better than that... What an idiot.... :confused: :confused: :confused:

At least your rig looks like it is running good :D

[Aaronn]

I'd only stop if he had his wife with him :flipoff2: :D :D

[a2b]

I'd only stop if he had his wife with him :flipoff2: :D :D


:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

[GRMhick]

Why would anyone be so farken stupid that they would admit to not stopping and helping another wheeler while he or she was broken down? I hope the same shiet happens to him on trail. I always thought the 4X4 community was better than that... What an idiot.... :confused: :confused: :confused:

At least your rig looks like it is running good :D

I saw him and tried to slow down to stop, but didnt want to take out the car next to me (I rarely tow a trailer, so I was taking it easy, expecally since it wasnt my rig). We had just gotten out of traffic and there was a ton going the other way. I figured about 30 min to get back to you guys. Richie was sick, and I wasnt sure it was a good idea to spend another hour in traffic. I am happy you guys got it all taken care of though. I'm real sorry buddy and hope I can make it up to ya next time.

[PAULR]

I'd only stop if he had his wife with him :flipoff2: :D :D


I'm still trying to figure out how he got her?? :confused:

[offroad_joe]

I'm still trying to figure out how he got her?? :confused:


:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

[Tim Florian]

I'm still trying to figure out how he got her?? :confused:

Must be hung like a horse. :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:


























Or not :p

[a2b]

Must be hung like a horse. :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Or not :p

how did you know :flipoff2:

so here are a few pics (http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/froctoberfest/index.htm)

http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/froctoberfest/images/skidplateshot.jpg

[a2b]

i got the rock lights installed :flipoff2:











...i think steve has a pic of them lit up :laughing:


http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/frontlights.jpg

http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/headlight.jpg

http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/sidelights.jpg

:laughing:
i just got back from the hammers and i wanted to run claw hammer that night with the group so i grabbed me some flashlights and a shop light that runs off of 12v....

[Im4yotas]

so much for the "(no booty fab!)" part of the title :flipoff2:

[Hammer Hog]

Yup :D
Got Lights

[Hammer Hog]

Here's more Hobie at the Hammers Nov.2004 :D
http://www.sandtastictoys.com/WreckingBall4-.JPG
http://www.sandtastictoys.com/WreckingBall3-.JPG
http://www.sandtastictoys.com/WreckingBall2-.JPG
http://www.sandtastictoys.com/TacHammer1-.JPG
http://www.sandtastictoys.com/ClawHammerHobie1-.JPG

[mobil1syn]

whats this hieght? thanks

[Hammer Hog]

More Hobie pix
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=157519&stc=1
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=157518&stc=1

[a2b]

whats this hieght? thanks


the top of the IFS frame rail to the bottom of the hendrix chassis in the back is 12" vertically..

the front is 15.25"

[Heywood]

Nice website youve got there Hobie.
Its nice to see some ideas of how to build these things.

Whats going on with your dash?, seems high and unlike the others. Any more/detailed picts of it?

[a2b]

Nice website youve got there Hobie.
Its nice to see some ideas of how to build these things.

Whats going on with your dash?, seems high and unlike the others. Any more/detailed picts of it?

the dash is temp for right now. i plan on running a tube across the chassis and makeing a dash that goes from side to side and putting a OS handle on the passenger side off of that tube...cuz right now they have nothing to hold onto..

and about the high comment. the bar that runs across the top is where my line of site it with the front of the chassis so it doesnt impair my vision. i plan on running my hood to there and being able to clear the motor...but i am not going to fab it up till i hear about what exactly "full hood" means.. you need to see down the driver side, so if i run my hood all the way to the side of that upper tube thats on my buggy right now, i wont be able to see. so if i have to make a full hood, then i will take the tube by the driver and make it swing down to the chassis so it doesnt block my site

[ghettowheeler]

are you running 4:10's.and if so did you gear your t case lower.

[a2b]

are you running 4:10's.and if so did you gear your t case lower.
yes 4.10's
yes 4.7 in the rear case

[ghettowheeler]

does it seem to be low enough with the 4.7 or do you think 5 to 1 would be better.
thanks,chris

[a2b]

well i have been out of town for 2 months. now i am back and i started working on the F-toy again. for my chrsitmas gift to myself, i bought a plasma cutter. the hypertherm powermax 380. it made a huge difference today. i got things done much much faster.

so i finished up the flat pan for the belly. its 40" by 50". 3/16" steel and wieghs 85lbs. i have wheeled with it and its working well. it protects all my fuel, brake lines, exuast and wiring, battery tray....and it can still support the buggy with the help of the crossmembers. it is completely flush on the bottom so there are no rock anchors.
http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/formulatoy/12505/images/flatbellydown.jpg
http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/formulatoy/12505/images/flatbellyup.jpg

also, the little peices of tube that connect the hendrix chassis to the toy frame were getting hung up on things. i had attached them to the bottom of the frame and it turned out not to be the best design. so i cut them out and put in another piece that attaches at the top of the frame. here you can see the difference in the pics. i gained alot of clearence.


before:

http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/formulatoy/12505/images/before1.jpg

After:

http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/formulatoy/12505/images/after1.jpg

i didnt change the front one because it has yet to even see rocks.

[RedNeckRea]

hobie...what's the rule on plating the sides between the two frames (see my shitty ms paint drawing) :confused:

I'd think something of that sort would help with gettin hung up.

[a2b]

chris, there isnt a rule on plating the sides. i know of one F-toy that has done it. but he doesnt post any pics of his rig. i dont plan on doing it cuz of the extra weight that it would involve

[RedNeckRea]

chris, there isnt a rule on plating the sides. i know of one F-toy that has done it. but he doesnt post any pics of his rig. i dont plan on doing it cuz of the extra weight that it would involve
how much weight do you think it would add?

wondering if the extra weight (which I'd guess isn't all that much) would be worth having a smoother surface at the rockers.

[a2b]

how much weight do you think it would add?

wondering if the extra weight (which I'd guess isn't all that much) would be worth having a smoother surface at the rockers.

dont know but it would have to be thick enough to do any good. i figure if it becomes a problem, then plate the sides. i dont think todd or lisa plated theirs, so it must not be a big problem if they are mounted like i have them now which is like theirs

[a2b]

so today i worked on the gas tank position. i dont know how many gallons it holds, but it is alot. the one in todd's and lisa's rig, isnt as big as my stock tank. anyways, so that much weight mounted that high cant be a good thing for COG. so i lowered it 5" and moved it foward.

before:
http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/formulatoy/12605/images/gastankbefore1.jpg

after:
http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/formulatoy/12605/images/gastankafter1.jpg

also, my rear shackle angle settled to a solid 55 degrees and the shackles would over extend and get stuck. so i had to move the JJ back 2". they used to be flush with the rear square tube, but now i needed more surface to weld to. so i put some square tubbing back there at the joint. i will plate the sides tommorrow. i am shooting for around a 20 degree shackle angle.

http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/formulatoy/12605/images/jj2.jpg

[Hammer Hog]

You may like 30 deg. better on that rear shakle
Just my .02

[a2b]

You may like 30 deg. better on that rear shakle
Just my .02

i took some advice on the degree thing. we'll see if it pays off

[a2b]

so today i plated the mounts. unfortunately, one of the perches was mounted .5" off from the other, so my jonny joints are a full 1" off in the back. i was wondering my driver side spring was crooked. so this time i mounted the JJ so it wouldnt be crooked sitting there.

http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/formulatoy/12705/images/jjplated2.jpg

the better part of the day was spent on the steering box. in the stock position my steering colided cuz the box was back too far. so i was using a relocator to move the axel back one inch to help.
so i need to move the steering foward so i could move my axel foward for better approach angle. i had to cut out the front tube. i will have to come up with another way of attaching the hendrix chassis to the frame in the front. so i plated the sides with 3/16" and sleeved the holes. in all i moved it 3.5" foward. now i can move my axel foward 3". i have to order new springs cuz my shackle angle in the front is about 10 degrees. i have no flex in the front at all. its like wheeling an IFS rig :laughing:
the new deavers and all pros are longer and should work with where my shackle hole is in the frame. plus, those springs move the axel foward unlike my old alcans that i have now.

before:

http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/formulatoy/12705/images/steeringholesbefore.jpg

after:

http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/formulatoy/12705/images/steeringmountafter.jpg

http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/formulatoy/12705/images/steeringaftermounted.jpg

now i am ready to order the hydro assist kit from scott at rock stomper :D

[Rock-Wear]

you have come a long way from your old botty fab dayz!








looking good!!! :D

[a2b]

you have come a long way from your old botty fab dayz!


ya but they were fun :laughing: :laughing:

[ft13]

are you going to run calrocs in april

[a2b]

are you going to run calrocs in april

yes i will be there :)

[RE:Todd]

yes i will be there :)
Yeah, right :rolleyes: :flipoff2:

[a2b]

Yeah, right :rolleyes: :flipoff2:

:laughing:

i'll be gunning for you :flipoff2:

so toady i plated my steering stops.
http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/formulatoy/13005/images/steeringstopsplated.jpg

then i shaved my front diff. it was easier than what i thought it would be.

http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/formulatoy/13005/images/shave1.jpg

http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/formulatoy/13005/images/shave3.jpg

oh, and i had help :grinpimp:

http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/mandietorch2.jpg

[Izeloz]

Always nice to have a helper... :smokin:

[rvd]

a2b, nice job on the formula toy. The vid is cool too.. Makes me wanna build one just for the sake of having one along side my 804x4.. Hmm, this site is a bad influence on me sometimes. haha

anways good stuff dude

[a2b]

anways good stuff dude

cool, thanks, as long as mine looks better than todd's :flipoff2:

[a2b]

so today i sat the fan in. it barely fits. it says it does 2300 CFM. during the winter the stock fan (no shrowd) was having a time keeping the engine cool. i hope this setup works. i also started working on the front. first i had to redo the tubes since i moved the steering box foward.

next is winch, stinger, lights, grill....etc...

http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/formulatoy/2905/images/fan1.jpg

http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/formulatoy/2905/images/newfront1.jpg

[RE:Todd]

so today i sat the fan in. it barely fits. it says it does 2300 CFM. during the winter the stock fan (no shrowd) was having a time keeping the engine cool. Hobie, check your radiator. I've never had a problem with my stock fan, radiator, and no shroud.

[a2b]

Hobie, check your radiator. I've never had a problem with my stock fan, radiator, and no shroud.

todd, what temp was yours running at in the summer?

mine was running sometimes at 220 during last fall when it was 60 degrees out. it usually was fine but sometimes heated up, so i figured that when it got really hot, i would have problems. thats why i switced. but also my radiator is about 3" away from my fan. mabey yours is closer?
i would prefer not to switch and just leave it alone and work on other stuff.

[jca]

todd, what temp was yours running at in the summer?

mine was running sometimes at 220 during last fall when it was 60 degrees out. it usually was fine but sometimes heated up, so i figured that when it got really hot, i would have problems. thats why i switced. but also my radiator is about 3" away from my fan. mabey yours is closer?
i would prefer not to switch and just leave it alone and work on other stuff.

Hobie I am pretty sure mine runs between 180-200 all year long. I know it does not over heat. Mine is set up like Todd's.

[a2b]

well in order to comply to calrocs rules. you have to have something to cover the tranny and cover the output shaft...so i built a tunnel. also i made a dashplate that can bolt in and out as i update it with guages and radios and what not. i still need to do the finish paint and some odd and end stuff. but i have the basics in. i just need to make them purty.

here is the old interior

http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/formulatoy/21005/images/oldint2.jpg

here is the new interior. tunnel and dash. i think it looks alot better. the tunnel is held in with bolts. so i can take the whole thing out if i need to. i still have to plate down my rubber boots. i didnt run the dash all the way across becuase when strapped into the seat, you need that corner open to see the driver front tire.

http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/formulatoy/21005/images/newtunneldash1.jpg

http://www.s-10crewcab.com/hobie/formulatoy/21005/images/newtunneldash2.jpg

[Hammer Hog]

Looking much nicer Hobie:D

[RE:Todd]

todd, what temp was yours running at in the summer?


200

[Hammer Hog]

200
:eek: :eek: :eek:


180 was what I have mine set at, but I have a custom 16" square 4-core and it hasn't hardly gone above that even on the hottest day.

[a2b]

Looking much nicer Hobie:D

mucho gracias :grinpimp:

[CragRat]

Your getting better at this fabrication thing ... looks like you learned a few things durring your time over here. :D

[a2b]

Your getting better at this fabrication thing ... looks like you learned a few things durring your time over here. :D

nope, just learned where the wrench drawer, tape drawer, sharpe drawer was.....ect.... and how to hide beer cans on peoples rigs :flipoff2: :p

[RedNeckRea]

someone should ask camo how hawt lisas f-toy was runnin at the bash :D :laughing:

[Air Ride]

someone should ask camo how hawt lisas f-toy was runnin at the bash :D :laughing:
hot enough that the motor dont anymore

Hobbie get my vote for most improved fabricator. Looks much better.

[ROCKPIMP]

Damn, That thing looks ten times better! So who will you pass your crown off to at the jambo this year?

[a2b]

Hobbie get my vote for most improved fabricator.

:bounce2: thanks mike :grinpimp:


rockpimp,
ya i dont know. tim florian asked me today if i was going to pass the crown. i was thinking, well there has to be someone to pass the crown to. if no one post up some terrible pic of something they did, i might just be stuck with it for another year :eek:

[Tim Florian]

Not that my vote matters, but with the improvents you've made in your fab work I think you would have to be allowed to give it up. :cool2:

[RE:Todd]

:eek: :eek: :eek:


180 was what I have mine set at, but I have a custom 16" square 4-core and it hasn't hardly gone above that even on the hottest day.Steve, that's a WAG anyway. I think I've got the 195 turdmostat in it.

[Aaronn]

:bounce2: thanks mike :grinpimp:


rockpimp,
ya i dont know. tim florian asked me today if i was going to pass the crown. i was thinking, well there has to be someone to pass the crown to. if no one post up some terrible pic of something they did, i might just be stuck with it for another year :eek:


Just so we remember what we're talking about :D :flipoff2:

[Aaronn]

I laugh every time I see that pic :D

[Hammer Hog]

I laugh every time I see that pic :D

You're not the only one :D

However, every time I see it, I wantta :barf: first.

:laughing: