I only have one question... How do you remove it or turn it green-blue again?

Interesting question. I doubt you will find an answer. They don't want you to remove it, so I'll bet whatever process they may be will alter the fuel enough that you don't want to run it in your truck. THe dye will obviously be completely soluable in diesel. It would be like trying to remove food coloring from water.

just keep adding what ever color fuel you want the fuel to be (as the tank needs filling)

The dye is hella strong. My dad works at a distribution center. I think the mix formula is something like 1 part dye to 10,000 parts diesel. The dye will stain anything it gets on for forever. It will actually stain your fuel system for awhile if you run it through your truck.

Run the off-road fuel as low as you can, put in some road fuel and replace the filter. Repeat about three or four times.

This was posted for a couple friends. They have decided that they will run #2 diesel ( I guess till they get caught) I was just hoping that maybe I could help them out. :confused: I hear it's a pretty good fine.

It's a good fine, but the deal is that it is tax evasion, a federal offense

#2 diesel is not dyed. Offroad only diesel is dyed, and i assume that is what you are talking about. The best way to get it out is to run the tank dry and then put some undyed diesel in and run it dry and then replace the fuel filter and do it again.
Dewey

NO, the question is. Whether its #2 or Red, I'm talking about the red shit thats not taxed. My friends are using it and I was wondering if there is a way, before it's introduced to the tank and fuel system if you can change or remove the color. So if they get stopped and ck'd it will appear that its normal diesel...

NO. You can not filter or somehow clean the red off of it.

#2 diesel is not dyed. Offroad only diesel is dyed, and i assume that is what you are talking about. The best way to get it out is to run the tank dry and then put some undyed diesel in and run it dry and then replace the fuel filter and do it again.
Dewey

Well just as a note #2 diesel is available in this area (SanDiego)in both red dye and no dye.

I've heard that a filter of diatomaceous earth can take the dye out, but I've never done it, so I don't know if it's true or not.

are they runing it in a non commercial application??

Or put a tank in the bed with a pump on it so it looks like a tranport tank and run a line out the bottom into your regular fuel line and then just fill the tank in the back with dyed and the regualar tank with clear. Or just tell your cheap ass friends to buy taxed fuel.
Dewey

are they runing it in a non commercial application??

Yeah this is in the DD's

I can't think of any reason why they would ever get dipped if they are just running them as a DD, and not commercial. But even if you ran a tank of the red stuff through, and then filled up with taxed shit the next time, and they took a sample, it would come out fine. I know when I was hauling #2 last summer(both red and green) all the equipment took red fuel, and the green in the lowboys, bellydumps, etc. When flushing the hose out, changing from red to green, the color difference stood out like a sore thumb. Once you pumped about 25 gallons(what the hose held) The color changed instantly. It wasn't a red, then turned greenish red, then redish green, then green.. It changed within a second from solid red, to solid green.

I've heard that a filter of diatomaceous earth can take the dye out, but I've never done it, so I don't know if it's true or not.

I have heard the same. Another name for it is "Fuller's earth".

I think if I got dipped I would play dumb??

say that I just filled up X miles ago and maybe the station mixed up (after telling the cop I had no idea WTF he was talking about with this red fuel crap?)

I think if I got dipped I would play dumb??

say that I just filled up X miles ago and maybe the station mixed up (after telling the cop I had no idea WTF he was talking about with this red fuel crap?)
Unless your TITS are huge and your hair is blonde, I dont think it will work! I'm sure no cop pulling over a man with a diesel truck is going to believe you "didnt know", then when he goes to ck the fueling station and finds out your lying... then what???

If there was a simple way to remove the dye, every truck driving outfit in the country would be doing it, and we all would know about it by now. Trust me, your friends are not the first people to think of this.

This is a lame thread. Why don't we next discuss how to rollback our odometers. :rolleyes:

How about we keep the threads that are meant to purposely, and knowingly break the law to some other BBS? :shaking:

It's a good fine, but the deal is that it is tax evasion, a federal offense

Yah, they fine you for every mile on the odometer or some such. It's actually the IRS that does the sticking.

Hey! I'm going to gut my cat on my wife's DD. Anyone know the best way? Then I think I'll remove my bumpers, lift it 25" and go mow down some school children. What's the best way to start?

:shaking:

I only have one question... How do you remove it or turn it green-blue again?
By opening your wallet and buying the correct fuel for your intended purpose in the first place. :shaking:

Yes, the IRS can and will break on off in you. At my Dad's distribution center, they caught a guy shutting off the valve at the dye tank and pumping undyed fuel into his transport truck at dyed pricing. Apparently he did this several times....something like 500,000 gallons over the course of a couple months. He got turned into the IRS. Lost his business, and went to jail. Tell your "friends" not to be dumb fawks and just run the right fuel.

This is a lame thread. Why don't we next discuss how to rollback our odometers. :rolleyes:

How about we keep the threads that are meant to purposely, and knowingly break the law to some other BBS? :shaking:
I agree 100%. This guys "friends" are idiotic tools.

This is a lame thread. Why don't we next discuss how to rollback our odometers. :rolleyes:

How about we keep the threads that are meant to purposely, and knowingly break the law to some other BBS? :shaking:

This thread is lame! Especially with moronic post's like yours. If you dont have any info thats useful, STFU! I'm sure you have never been curious about a way around something (I.E. cheated on taxes) I'll bet your an angel sent from above and could do no wrong, right?

This infact was for a couple of friends (not that I condone what they are doing) I have told them its not worth it... but I cant make them stop. I was more or less curious about it.

Sorry to waste your time with such a worthless post, could you please show me the way to your holy land? :flipoff2:

Thanks to those that have given useful info...I still learned something from this thread. :beer:

If you were draging a hay trailer around a farm or doing some other work with your truck that did not involve road miles then you could legitimatly run dyed fuel, right? This could cover you if they were to check your filters and find dye, maybe. But if you were on the road you would be SOL. Or maybe you could put one of those orange triangle farm equipment signs or your truck and carry around a load of watermelons :D

If you look at truck weigh stations or ports of entry, there will be a sign explaining that the area is a fuel checkpoint and your fuel tank can be dipped w/o probable cause or any other reason. It is illegal to run one tank on-road and the other off-road without a mileage log. I think the fine is around $10K or more, and it's the IRS not the DOT. They don't fuck around.

If you had to ask this question, I bet you will get caught when you do it.

If you look at truck weigh stations or ports of entry, there will be a sign explaining that the area is a fuel checkpoint and your fuel tank can be dipped w/o probable cause or any other reason. It is illegal to run one tank on-road and the other off-road without a mileage log. I think the fine is around $10K or more, and it's the IRS not the DOT. They don't fuck around.

If you had to ask this question, I bet you will get caught when you do it.

Yeah, from what I have heard most people around here that have a tank in the rear of the truck, for fueling equipment purposes, get checked alot! I just think it would be unfortunate if one of my "friends" were caught. While at work tonite I showed this thread to one of them, and at that moment he was like " holy shit really??? :eek: " and said he was done!

It's amazing how many of you assume because its a couple of "friends" it's really me... :laughing: unfortunatly I dont have 3 personalities and for that matter I dont even have a diesel truck, let alone a tow rig, I just have a 2wd fawking ranger. Let me be the first to tell you, it sure wouldn't tow my jeep like their trucks do!

Does anyone know for a fact how much the fine is? Could I just call the Highway Patrol and ask? It would be cool to use as some sort of a scare tactic and get them to buy regular shit.

I work for a major trucking company in the states and at one time a month or so ago they were considering sending trucks to Canada and purchasing fuel from a refinery and them bringing it back here to use. But somenthing or someone told them NO NO NO!! Thats all I heard, but the plan was stopped fast.

I've had my tank dipped twice here in Kansas. DOT Officer said the fine was around $10,000.00.

http://baltimore.bizjournals.com/baltimore/stories/2003/06/23/daily32.html

http://www.cfbf.com/agalert/2003/08_06_03_a_aa.aspx

In nevada:
http://www.dmvnv.com/pdfforms/mcnewssep02.pdf

goto page 7.. Dyed Diesel section.

It appears to start at $1000, and climbs. A google search turned up an article that said $20k against the place that pumped the fuel. It also stated that they don't need a warrant or any reason to stop and check your fuel tanks - they can do it on a whim.

If you don't have about $5k in the bank ready to turn over to the state, IRS, EPA and a few other agencies.. I'd recommend not doing it.

So, what if you know of a place that has farm diesel that is not dyed, would you buy it? What if it sells for $1.31 per gallon, compared to the normal $2.23 price, would you buy it? If you drove 100,000 miles per year, you would save around $7,000. I've heard you can only pump into drums and/or aux. tanks.

I, for one, have only love for the IRS, and am glad to pay for all the road damage my Dodge does to our Nation's highways, especially when I see my money lining the pockets of those poor shovel holders.

Chris

well, since road taxed diesel is only 1.56/gal here...i wouldn't risk it for saving .20 a gallon....if i were burning 100 gallons a week i probably would..

I've seen a few guys get pulled over around here and the local "Dept. of Transportation" officers (not state police or city boys) dipping the tanks. Seen probably two in the past year. Both were pulling Bobcats.

We have a large tank of farm diesel that we keep for tractors. I've been tempted to fill her up a time or two. But god knows what kind of shit is in the bottom of our farm tank. I'll stay legal for the time being.

With all the farm gas being reported stolen these days, why risk it?

You now may go down for theft on top of evading taxes :rolleyes:

This thread is lame! Especially with moronic post's like yours. If you dont have any info thats useful, STFU!


Says the pot to the kettle. :laughing: