my buddy is putting fj40 axles under his sammi,and he found a hy-steer setup for a minitruck.are the arms the same size before he buys them.he called me but i have never fooled with crusier stuff before,thanks Bill...

depends on what year fj40 axles he is using. If the fj40 axles have disc brakes ( 79 and newer I believe) it will work. I don't know about the tie rod ends though.

his are the older axles with drum brakes on front,he plans on doing a disc conversion though.thanks...

Have him get some knuckles from a mini truck 79-85 or FJ60/62 knuckles. These will work and have the same bolt pattern.

i have some he can have,does the cruser and mini trick use the same trunion bearings?

I can't believe somebody else hasn't set the record straight here yet. None of the drum brake front ends have the knuckle arm stud pattern that is the same as the mini. Contact Luke at 4x4labs if you want hi steer for the drum knuckles, or better, wait until you can get ahold of a mini front end B4 you buy those good deal arms that fit NOTHING you currently own. :D

whoo dude , keep the arms you have that fit nothing cause your buddy has the knuckles you need , you already have the hy-steer , buy some longs and your set. Get some spindles and discs from a junk yard or hopefully they will come on the knuckles your buddy has...

what i am trying to say is he has a drum front end going under his sammi,and found a mini truck hy-steer set up,and i have a spare mini truck front axle.i am trying to find out if we could put the fj40 axle together with minitruck knckles and brakes with the hy-steer from a mini :grinpimp: thanks for the help guys...

i am trying to find out if we could put the fj40 axle together with minitruck knuckles and brakes with the hy-steer from a mini

yes, that will work. many guys convert to disks w/ the minitruck knuckles and then of course mini hi steer arms will bolt to those knuckles. you'll need pretty much everything from the mini. i'm not sure if the bearings are switchable, but i don't think so.

what i am trying to say is he has a drum front end going under his sammi,and found a mini truck hy-steer set up,and i have a spare mini truck front axle.i am trying to find out if we could put the fj40 axle together with minitruck knckles and brakes with the hy-steer from a mini :grinpimp: thanks for the help guys...


Use the minitruck knuckles outboard, including birfsnot inners though), spindles etc. Knuckle bearings are the same for mini and LC and disc and drum stuff, but a rebuild kit is only $78 with new bearings and shims. the mini-truck hi-steer arms will work, but the drag link and tie rod will not be the right length.

*Sidenote: There is very little reason I can see to build a disc brake axle with the drum/small disc brake pattern arms if you plan on installing hi-steer and wheeling. Both the stud size and spacing is larger and it is better to harder wheeling. Save the small pattern disc stuff for the LC geeks who like to pay $800 for a disc front end you could build for 1/4th of that using stronger mini truck stuff.

i think i am understanding now :eek: if we use the mini truck knuckles we have to use the birfs too but not the inner axles?will the mini truck birfs fit cruser inners?bear with while i learn at yalls expense and just send me the bill :D

to cruiserbret , you said " small drum/disc pattern. Did landcruisers have a small pattern on the steering arm with disc brakes ? if so , what years and when did larger pattern start , or is the mini pattern larger than any LC pattern ?
I thought mini and LC inners were same ?

the inners are the same. the knuckle steering arm bolt pattern is different on the mini vs. LC. (not sure if FJ60 was similar to mini).

if we use the mini truck knuckles we have to use the birfs too if you use the mini hubs, yes. the LC had a longer birf. stub shaft than the mini/FJ60. the aisin mini/FJ60 hub is generally accepted as stronger than the FJ40 etc-LC Warns, so go w/ that.

the inners are the same. the knuckle steering arm bolt pattern is different on the mini vs. LC. (not sure if FJ60 was similar to mini).

if you use the mini hubs, yes. the LC had a longer birf. stub shaft than the mini/FJ60. the aisin mini/FJ60 hub is generally accepted as stronger than the FJ40 etc-LC Warns, so go w/ that.

Whoa, your spreading bogus info here. Mini truck inners and land cruiser(fj40/fj55) are NOT the same. There is 2 inches of difference.

There are different bolt patterns on the steering arm stuff
Drum and 9/'75-1/79 LC stuff share the small pattern regardless of disc vs drum.
Post ~1/'79 FJ40/60 has large pattern-same as 1979-85 mini. knuckles and all outer stuff identical to mini stuff except the backing plate(minor) and the color of the locking hub outer, and the LH arm on the mini-truck has the J-arm deal. Also, rotors not vented on mini, so diff rotor/caliper, but entirely interchangable as a pair.

There are 2 different fine spline birfs. 9/'75-12/78 spline section are longer by about 10mm

Later FJ stuff 1/79 and newer, both FJ40/60 and mini-truck birfs are the same.

The land cruiser inners will need to be re-used with the mini-truck birfs-they do work together.

links to mini convertion HERE (http://www.ih8mud.com/cruisertech.php)

oops. :emb2: i was talking splines on the inners. wasn't thinking length. i put mini birfs(longs) on my '77 FJ40 inners. your info is absolutely correct. not to mention little more complete. thanks for the correction. :D

oops. :emb2: i was talking splines on the inners. wasn't thinking length. i put mini birfs(longs) on my '77 FJ40 inners. your info is absolutely correct. not to mention little more complete. thanks for the correction. :D

Not a problem :flipoff2: just wanted to clarify on some of that, and answer some more of his Q's...

thanks fellows,we now have good info to work on...

why not run the mini? If you are going to give him from the spindles out then the axle is pretty much useless to you .. Give him the whole thing and save some work. Its a sami so the gain in the R&P I wouldn't think would be much.

arndog

why not run the mini? If you are going to give him from the spindles out then the axle is pretty much useless to you .. Give him the whole thing and save some work. Its a sami so the gain in the R&P I wouldn't think would be much.

arndog

Hmm. I like the way you think!

well.. The inners can be reused by your buddies after you pop them off the birfs..
The Long side Minitruck inner front axle is the same as the FJ60/62 inner axle.. The short side is just good for your minitruck friends.. So trade em for beer or whatever you need to help with getting your disk swap done..

i told him he could have the whole axle to put under it,but he already has the cruser axle under his sami.i may see if he wants to go with the mini truck axle anyways,sure would make it simple...