I've been discussing this with friends and can't find the post I've seen before.

Who has trashed a Bogger, SX, or TSL, and how did it happen?

I know the SSR has a bad rep but I can say I personally have never seen a trashed Bogger, SX, or TSL.

I personally have SX's and can't seem to hurt 'em, but I know if any group of people could break something supposedly indestructible it would be this one:beer:

I put a stick through the tread on one of my TSL's this weekend. It's at the tire shop right now getting a patch.

Only ones I've seen were 16.5" versions (typically 39.5's) that were spun off the rim & flailed around for a bit by high-HP mud machines. The Boggers got chewed up worse than the TSL's in those circumstances. Not sure if any were destroyed, but some were really boogered up. Have seen one RADIAL TSL ripped open, but not a bias - so far.

TEX

I had 33x10.50 r 15's and I think it was a SSR but I am not sure. Well the first trip out I didn't air down and a rock sliced the sidewall beyond repair... :(

I sheared all the outer lugs off of a pretty new SSR a while back. I was on a snow run and there was apparently some pretty sharp rocks under the snow that ripped the lugs right off like nothing. I can't post pics, but there's a picture of the tire in the following thread:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13029

I have stuck sticks through sidewalls on 1 Bogger and 1 TSL.

I cut the sidewall last year on a 38" SX (had road hazzard) and I had a lug separate on a TSL Radial in 1995.

This is exactly the stuff I wanted to hear. Keep it coming.

wngrog- I'm assuming you cut the SX on a rock, what was the situation, off camber, climbing, spinning furiously? And why would you put sticks through your sidewall:flipoff2:

Seriously, what psi are you running and is there some gremlin sharpening these sticks as a joke?

I cut the side out of a 42x15x15 TSL. Was spinning it through a rut at about 4K rpm and pretty cleanly slashed it open. From what I could tell, it was a fairly jagged rock that cut it open, but I wasn't going to dig though the mud and water to find out. I was running about 15 P.S.I. in it at the time.

Ryan

A friend punctured the sidewall of a 35" SSR this last weekend. Don't know what he found to puncture it on since this was basically a dirt road we were on.

Problem is since the tire came from 4 wheel parts, they won't cover it under their road-hazzard since the tire has been taken off-road (evident by the chipped up lugs). Told him to wash the dirt off, put it back on the truck, and drive it around his neighborhood until the tread starts flying off. Take it down to 4 wheel whores in his wifes car and claim it as a blowout.

And that tire that he had punctured was a replacement for another SSR that the belts seperated on.

Of course if he knew then what he knows now, he never would have bought them from 4WP to begin with.

Friends don't let friend's shop at 4 Wheel Parts.

:eek:

Slashed a 38X11 bogger just playin around in a muddy field. A stick or sumthin' buried cut a gash between the tread blocks big enough to stick your thumb in

I usually run between 8-4 lbs....sticks just seem to jump into my sidewalls!

As for the SX, I don't know what happend, but I can assure you it was a slow speed thing.

I was with a guy in Disney oklahoma who runs 44inch TSL's the rocks in Disney are extremly sharp, forget about running a BFG or any other non rock terrain tire, any way this guy was all up on the side all of some extemely sharp rocks I was for sure he was gonna cut a side wall opened but it dint even faze the tire, he spun it on the sharp ledges and rammed it on the ledges as well all I can say is a 44 TSL is one tuff son of a bitch, I couldnt belive my eyes:eek: :smokin:

I've cut two 36" TSL's on rocks. Bias TSL's, not radials. And I got one slashed by somebody who decided that I didn't need air in my tires one night. They stopped after one tire, though... guess TSL's are hard to slash.

For those of you who have ripped a swamper please state whether it was a 15, 16, or 16.5in.

All ties into my theory: 10ply good, 6ply less good, so what if the 10plys ride like sheet.

Ron

I have lost a side wall in a 33x12.50 15 TSL biased

And a side wall in a 42x15x15 TSL bias

Seen a 39.5x whatever x15 bogger tear a hole 6 inches long in the tread.

and alot of other tires fail but I think thats all the swamper problems other then the usual nail or screw.

All due to good ole oregon roots.

10 ply may be thicker and more durable than 6 ply sidewalls, but I have heard that they dont flex or conform over obstacles worth a damm!!

I have 4 sidewall punctures in three 35-15.50-15 SX's. All happened during rockcrawling, just from sharp rocks, I guess. Although they do cut much easier when they are wet. One thing I did notice in particular was that if the tires are run with the raised letters out, the letters will get torn off, leaving exposed cords which cut very easily. A kid at Discount Tire mounted my spare with the raised letters to the inside by mistake, and I've been running that tire for 4 or 5 months with no cuts or problems of any kind. Go figure..................:D

I killed two of them before I got SX's. They were...you guessed it...SSR's. The first was in Disney, Oklahoma back in the woods, a stump that had been cut off with a chain saw at an angle. The second was minding my own business in rocks in Iowa.

36x12.5x15 TSL Radial. Ripped a 6" hole in the inner sidewall. Not exactly sure how. Probably drving on it after blowing a bead had something to do with it. I wasn't in a good spot to swap.