i cant find a set... heard these are the hot ticket for full sire gm trucks needing a solid axel swap...... but locally i cant find one........ matching rear axel would be nice also.... anyone know yards i should call or places i should look?....i would like every thing from the power steering gear box, springs, axel, man even the rims and tires if i can(just for making it easy to weld around nice old tires!....) any how..... its a swap.. u all know what that means.... lots of parts needed...
oh and from what i gather these were on 73-75 1ton trucks and such... but maybe theres more they came on.... i dont realy know....

. thanks

There is no such thing as a Chevy 1 ton 4wd truck until 1977. They were not available before then.

The older 3/4 tons do have the big hubs, but they're weaker than the internal style, and the real early ones use even smaller u joints and wheel bearings making them even less desireable.

Of the later internal hub units, both 10 bolt and Dana 44, none are really stronger than others. If I were you, I'd find a 3/4 ton 10 bolt as more are available and they're just as strong. That way if you ever need replacement shafts, they're much easier to come by.

10 bolts also are larger inside and easier to work on in my opinion.

I'd get yourself a 10 bolt.

The hot ticket for these trucks is the Dana 60 front available in 77-91 K30s only. That's what I run as to many others and it is the ultimate in strength and can be upgraded to be even stronger.

IIRC Ford axles are the hot swap for the IFS SAS GM

The older 3/4 tons do have the big hubs, but they're weaker than the internal style, and the real early ones use even smaller u joints and wheel bearings making them even less desireable.

How are they weaker than the internal style? They have a larger inner wheel bearing and race and drive flanges are bigger. I haven't seen factory lockouts for these but the Warns I run look every bit as strong as internal hubs.

Andy

They have SMALLER wheel bearings, not larger. They are MUCH weaker as well, I've seen them break far more often than the internal style.

As I said also, the earliest models not only have smaller wheel bearings but a smaller, 260x u joint as well.

As to Ford axles being the hot ticket, I can't see why. The diff is on the wrong side, makes for interesting compound driveline angles.

They have SMALLER wheel bearings, not larger. They are MUCH weaker as well, I've seen them break far more often than the internal style.

As I said also, the earliest models not only have smaller wheel bearings but a smaller, 260x u joint as well.

As to Ford axles being the hot ticket, I can't see why. The diff is on the wrong side, makes for interesting compound driveline angles.

Ummmm, the diff is on the correct side for a SAS in an IFS truck as per the original question.

The 78-79 F250/F350 D60 is very desireable for SAS conversion on an 88-up IFS GM 4x4. Main attractions are beef, pumpkin location, and high-pinion design.

The next best choice isn't really clear....

You have to decide if you can sacrifice strength and use one of the other Ford D44's. If you need the beef, you have to figure out what you need to do with your suspension setup or t-case to accomodate one of the other D60's.

wow thanks guys.... i realy dont know much about domestic axels...... only info thats been passed on to me....... i realy have no clue other than i want to be able to get my tow rig back to drag my trial rig home if need be ahha......

thanks!

Ummmm, the diff is on the correct side for a SAS in an IFS truck as per the original question.

Oops......I happened to miss that information.

The 78-79 F250/F350 D60 is very desireable for SAS conversion on an 88-up IFS GM 4x4. Main attractions are beef, pumpkin location, and high-pinion design.


As pointed out the drivers drop pinion makes things a bit easy.

The one point that hasn't been stated yet is the spring pad center to center on the 78-79 Fords is 32.5 inches vs 36.5 for the GM's. The 32.5 works well with the 88-98 1500, 88-00 2500 & 3500 as well as 01 & up HD, Suburban, and Avalanche.

IIRC Offroad Unlimiteds straight axle kit for the 01's & up HD's is only for the 32.5 axle.

The one point that hasn't been stated yet is the spring pad center to center on the 78-79 Fords is 32.5 inches vs 36.5 for the GM's. The 32.5 works well with the 88-98 1500, 88-00 2500 & 3500 as well as 01 & up HD, Suburban, and Avalanche.

IIRC Offroad Unlimiteds straight axle kit for the 01's & up HD's is only for the 32.5 axle.

Straight Axle Chevy are ~32-32.5". IIRC its the 80+ Fords that are 36". And I think ORU offers a kit for the '88-'98 Chevys that uses the 36" axle?

Pete

I know a guy with a D60 for sale. You in san angelo? If so i can talk to him and see how much he wants for it. It is freshly machined with new kingpins and upgrades. Lemme know.

I know a guy with a D60 for sale. You in san angelo? If so i can talk to him and see how much he wants for it. It is freshly machined with new kingpins and upgrades. Lemme know.

hum.... a bit more than i want but ill ask.. how much?.... i could alwase make a road tirp if need be..... oh and what side is the diff on?... :p

what side do you need it on? Drivers? He has a late model D50 High pinion. Little bit stronger. Cheaper as well... May also have a D60 high pinion just have to make sure though. i will ask him a price on all three and let you know.

ok. Here is what i got for ya. the Dana60: $950. Not 100% complete, needs hubs. not sure what else. Passenger side drop.
no d60 high pinion.
D50 high pinion drivers side drop would probably be your best bet. $750 COMPLETE hub to hub NEW ujoints. New Seals for sure. We also are willing to meet you half way. Lemme know. if you want. Gimme a call 3253740134
Tony

i wouldn't bother with the dana 50. for that price, just keep looking for a hp60 for your conversion.

like those are cheap and plentiful.

D50 high pinion drivers side drop would probably be your best bet.

Metric bolt pattern :shaking:

Better have a set of wheels and a matching Sterling 10.5" rear to go with it :flipoff2:

sorry, but u do not know what you are talking about. isnt 8 lug 8 lug?

sorry, but u do not know what you are talking about. isnt 8 lug 8 lug?

Nope. SD Fords are 8 on 170 mm hub-centric. Not 8 on 6.5" lug-centric like everything else. YOU apparantly don't know what you're talking about. :flipoff2: Ever notice how the SDs don't use tapered lugs? :rolleyes:

Pete

oooopsss. haha, i meant to say i do not know what you are talking about. Typo. ok. Well, thank you for that information.