Got a D35 in the back of my 98 TJ with the superior axle upgrade and an OX Locker. Looking for opinions on what's the largest tire you'd recommend?

Are you serious? (http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=241603)

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oh my god!!!!! what the hell is this!!!! take your kid to work day????

I've heard of people putting 3 (three) tires on a 35!!

The 35 should safely be able to handle 40"s but if you try going over that you are going to break something for sure.

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35s..... that's why the axle is called a Dana 35.

However, make sure you have the right ring and pinions to offset the rotation from the 30" tires on your Dana 30 front.

3 tires????? What does that mean Braxton

I would be more worried about the seat bolts than the axles, :D your seat might break loose at those elevations. :rolleyes: The D35 is a good strong axle C-clip and all a very sound design I would have no quams with running 35's on it. Then again I ditched the 44 and I now have a 60 with 35's for wheelin(i just felt like throwing money down the drain you know) in my rear but thats with a 401 thumper too.

Seriously with the upgrade you have I wouldnt worry till they snap. Just as a tid bit we have three jeeps in our group who pack spare stock 35 axle shafts, they run 33's and ussually roach an axle a year or two sline twist, bearing damamge or axle snap. They get replacements for free so why upgrade but changing them or the trail is getting old. If you have the money to throw around knock yourself out, but up to a 35 i wouldn't be too shook up. Just watch the go pedal.

However, make sure you have the right ring and pinions to offset the rotation from the 30" tires on your Dana 30 front.

:laughing: good one Tex

A quick answer(s) to your question........


1.SEARCH!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is there for a reason.
2. 225/65/15 = max tire size for the Dana 35.

29's max, but you CAN use a mud terrain :D

Well so far I've got sizes from 225, which is what, about 30", all the way up to 40's. Thats a pretty large range.

http://www.mindthief.net/BBPosts/who%20fkn%20cares.jpg

You seem cool/clueless enough mang... Check the second thread down from the top of the page...

Go for the gusto and put on 38's, if it breaks you need a better axel :flipoff2:

Well so far I've got sizes from 225, which is what, about 30", all the way up to 40's. Thats a pretty large range.


I vote for 44" tires :flipoff2:

Check out this thread on JU HERE (http://www.jeepsunlimited.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=515979&perpage=20&highlight=44s&pagenumber=1)

Make sure you see the jeep stats first post page 2. That is fucking hilarious.

run some 44s if it breaks you know you need smaller tires

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Yes 60's are great but so are Sherman Tanks.......On a Super 35 I have seen people successfully run 36's and 37's but they are very light on the skinny and don't let em spin too much. I wouldn't go over 35's. Maybe one day we can all afford 60's but until then some of us have to get by.

I wouldn't even leave your driveway with a d35. I'd be scared it wouls break from the stress of going in reverse. I'd stick with stock untill you get more seat time and learn a couple of things.
1. Never post on this board about d35 stuff
2. Search
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I wouldn't even leave your driveway with a d35. I'd be scared it wouls break from the stress of going in reverse. I'd stick with stock untill you get more seat time and learn a couple of things.
1. Never post on this board about d35 stuff
2. Search
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Well I guess I don't have to worry about you stealing my Jeep. As SJ said we all can't afford to have 60's...so right back at you:flipoff:

I wouldn't even leave your driveway with a d35. I'd be scared it wouls break from the stress of going in reverse. I'd stick with stock untill you get more seat time and learn a couple of things.
1. Never post on this board about d35 stuff
2. Search
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BTW....it's THEIR rigs not THERE

I know guys running 35s that don't bust their 35C, if you do bust, upgrade your axles then, untill then, wheel the piss out of 'em

Now that you invested into an OX locker and Super 35 kit, the housing remains the true weak point. D35 housings WILL SAG with even smaller tires and offroad abuse. You will know when this is happening when the axle end seals are constantly leaking, housing end bearings wear out quickly and you have a hard time removing or installing the axle shafts.

Really, ask me how I know about this :rolleyes: :shaking:

I remember hearing about a guys wife who broke a 35 in a bone stock jeep, by trying to take off with the parking brake on. :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

I see that you have 35's on it and actually do go to the con. C'mon man, sell that junk and step up to the 8.8 at least...

I see that you have 35's on it and actually do go to the con. C'mon man, sell that junk and step up to the 8.8 at least...

You are correct...do Fordyce and Barrett regularly also. 3 toughest trails in the area that I know about. I'll probably wait till I break the 35 and then step up to something better. But I try to keep a light foot on the skinny pedal so hopefully it will last a couple more seasons. Unless I come into some cash then srcew it , it's gone.

You can run the biggest tire that will fit without rubbing while it's sitting on the lift at the tire store. You don't need to regear or put a lift on to run 40's. You can even mount them to your stock wheels.
When you get it home under its own power come back here and tell us how. Otherwise ask your mommy to read the mission statement and show you how to use the search function. It's dumb fawkers like you that give us newbies who can read and search a bad name. :mad3:

You can run the biggest tire that will fit without rubbing while it's sitting on the lift at the tire store. You don't need to regear or put a lift on to run 40's. You can even mount them to your stock wheels.
When you get it home under its own power come back here and tell us how. Otherwise ask your mommy to read the mission statement and show you how to use the search function. It's dumb fawkers like you that give us newbies who can read and search a bad name. :mad3:

:shaking: Hey DAN, scroll to the top of the page. What does it say? Oh right NEWBIE TECH. Get a fawkin clue. (you are right though, it should've been put here from the beginning, I'm not even sure this classifies as newb tech..

You can run the biggest tire that will fit without rubbing while it's sitting on the lift at the tire store. You don't need to regear or put a lift on to run 40's. You can even mount them to your stock wheels.
When you get it home under its own power come back here and tell us how. Otherwise ask your mommy to read the mission statement and show you how to use the search function. It's dumb fawkers like you that give us newbies who can read and search a bad name. :mad3:

Maybe a newbie to this board but not to wheeling. Been at it for more than 20 years. And I'm sure this question has been asked a thousand times. I was just looking for opinions, which as you know are like ***holes, everybodys got on. And you appear to be, I mean have, a big one

Thanks for your intelligent response.

haha i've been just lurking around for a while, and i've noticed that rather than answer any questions, 4 or 5 regulars just bash on whoever's asking... Kinda silly...

BASH ON!

Got a D35 in the back of my 98 TJ with the superior axle upgrade and an OX Locker. Looking for opinions on what's the largest tire you'd recommend?

4" - 6" lift with 33" - 35" no problem.

haha i've been just lurking around for a while, and i've noticed that rather than answer any questions, 4 or 5 regulars just bash on whoever's asking... Kinda silly...

BASH ON!
Maybe if noobs read the rules in the jeep section there wouldn’t be so much bashing, quite frankly if you read the whole first page of threads in there only a select few are one’s with bashing, and ALL the one’s with bashing are threads that are clearly noobs totally ignoring the rules set in that room. :flipoff2:

235..... maybe 205. I got a question for those that defend the 35 as a good axle. If you had to DOWNGRADE from a 35 what would it be? I mean a modern day rear end 4x4 application, what is weaker than a 35?

"Perfume covered cat shit" quote of the day from a construction friend that applies to your d35. I have a D44 with only 34" tires - and snapped an axle in Moab - hate to see the D35 in that scenario. You can run it til it breaks - but if you are going without spares in the middle of nowhere - good luck getting out. Not to mention the local shop will charge you in repairs for what you could have upgraded to so it wouldn't have happened. Either way - your choice - but in the end it will cost you.

Had a TJ for a while, had 31's on the D35, no problems. Put 33's on and started to watch the axle get bad. I actually had my pinion gear start cracking. So your Superior shafts and Detroit locker strength doesn't apply.

There are a lot of other factors other than axle shafts that make the D35 weak. R&P size, axle shaft size and material, axle housing tube size, bearing design, etc.

If you are going to play in the rocks and don't want to worry about your axle breaking, go with 31's max.

If you are going to play in the rocks and don't mind having that nagging feeling of your axle breaking (whether it be R&P, shaft, bearing, whatever) in the back of your mind, then go with 33's or 35's max.

But no bigger. Good luck.

Look into a Ford 8.8 axle out of a late model Explorer or Mountaineer, some come with 4.10 gears and disc brakes stock. Its a cheap alternative to a D44.

235..... maybe 205. I got a question for those that defend the 35 as a good axle. If you had to DOWNGRADE from a 35 what would it be? I mean a modern day rear end 4x4 application, what is weaker than a 35?

Now that is an excellent question.

235..... maybe 205. I got a question for those that defend the 35 as a good axle. If you had to DOWNGRADE from a 35 what would it be? I mean a modern day rear end 4x4 application, what is weaker than a 35?

i like honda crv axles... about as big as my pinky (not joking)

In 97 I built a TJ w/ 33's, moser axles and an ARB. It was sold in 99 with ~50k on it. It is adult driven and goes out two or three times a year. The new owner stresses on the Rubicon, so maybe he does it once a year.

That said 2 rear axle explosions in the last four years. Junk it. At the very least truss it and run 33's max.

Check out this thread on JU HERE (http://www.jeepsunlimited.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=515979&perpage=20&highlight=44s&pagenumber=1)

Make sure you see the jeep stats first post page 2. That is fucking hilarious.

That guy on JU is something special, let me tell you. :shaking:

Patfo, you may be right. It says a..hole in flashing lights on my forhead. It just gets old seeing the same question asked over and over. As was said above the problem with a 35 isn't the axles. It's the housing, it bends causing the axles to bind and then break. If you do any of your own work you can shop and at least get a 44 for less than the cost of the super 35 kit. The locker is a push as you'd want it in either axle. I too have been wheeling for a couple of years, just over 30. Good luck with the 35 and carry spare parts. :shaking:

235..... maybe 205. I got a question for those that defend the 35 as a good axle. If you had to DOWNGRADE from a 35 what would it be? I mean a modern day rear end 4x4 application, what is weaker than a 35?

Hmmm...I would say the Spicer 23 and the Dana 41.

Hmmm...I would say the Spicer 23 and the Dana 41.

Let's not go back to WW2.....I said "modern day"......currently available....in production now....used on modern 4x4's. Well, anyways, I think yoy see my point.....being that when you have a 35 you are at the bottom of the axle strength list. You can only look UP. And being that the weight bias/transfer on a Jeep strongly favors the back....well, that spells B-A-M.
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http://www.jeeptech.com/axle/d35c.html
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..........and sfran-per your comment--"As was said above the problem with a 35 isn't the axles. It's the housing, it bends causing the axles to bind and then break. " That is good to know. That means that a good top truss will fix things.

I was running a super 35 with 36s but then I broke my ring and pinion busted my OX and in the mean time I had a bent housing and two bent Axleshafts. And I had already broken one ring and pinion and busted 2 OX cross shafts. One of which broke the OX. IMO Super 35s are a waist of money for anything over 33" tires.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&q=%22dana+35%22+broke

Hey Patfo, your just the type of person I carrie spare axles for. Driving a scrambler I have the room for a set of spare d35 axles. I always carrie a set. I took 4 set to moab and sold them on every trail we went on. They were getting a ton of money for them in town but on the trail if your nice real cheep, but if your an ass their made of gold. You may have skiped out on a couple of trails but it will catch up on the worst part of the next trail. Oh and by the way if you have 20 years doing this then why the hell are you asking questions about a d35. My wife even points them out on the trail and we move around jeeps with them, there a bad day waiting to happen.

Hey Rockjeep, I'll remember to be especially nice to you if we meet on the trail. As for why the 35, I guess I just like testing my skills with inferior equipment.

As to the question of what size tires in general. I have heard and read so many different responses I thought I'd pose the question in one more area and see what came of it.

Hell, until the last two years I've never even run a locker, the biggest tire I had was 33's and never used a winch. Still did the same trails as I do now, just took a little longer and had to choose my lines carefully. Maybe I'm just the luckiest SOB in the world out there wheeling. I know the 35 isn't going to last, but I don't think everybody needs to run 60's with 44's. Driver skill is what gets you there with your rig in one piece. The worst driver in the world can trash the best of vehicles.

Also I did get a couple of different responses that I hadn't come across before about it not being the axle as much as the housing and some other parts that would cause problems.

Hey Rockjeep, I'll remember to be especially nice to you if we meet on the trail. As for why the 35, I guess I just like testing my skills with inferior equipment.

As to the question of what size tires in general. I have heard and read so many different responses I thought I'd pose the question in one more area and see what came of it.

Hell, until the last two years I've never even run a locker, the biggest tire I had was 33's and never used a winch. Still did the same trails as I do now, just took a little longer and had to choose my lines carefully. Maybe I'm just the luckiest SOB in the world out there wheeling. I know the 35 isn't going to last, but I don't think everybody needs to run 60's with 44's. Driver skill is what gets you there with your rig in one piece. The worst driver in the world can trash the best of vehicles.

Also I did get a couple of different responses that I hadn't come across before about it not being the axle as much as the housing and some other parts that would cause problems.


I won't knock that arguement, i used to get a kick out of picking lines with my old flattie and embarasing some rigs that were really well setup on the above mentioned trails. There is alot to be said for skill and familiarity with your rig, balancing the components to the drivetrains capacity.

Ok....the thread was moved into the Newbie Forum and that means no bashing allowed. If you can't answer without being a dick or saying something stupid...don't post. :roxy:

If your going to continue running your d35 with the superior shafts, I would carry spares, and truss up the houseing the best you can without spending alot of money, and I wouldnt run over a 33 inch tire, I ran 33'mtrs with a locker and bent the housing, then spun one of the tubes, and broke a shaft, had to reshaft the axle laying in a shallow creek, because I couldnt move my grand cherokee without the broken shaft walking out, take spares and tools, and be watching for a deal on your future replacment axle.