Project Cherry Outline
Please Read through the list. If you know a part I missed on the list let me know, If you know of a used Part/Donor I am looking for let me know, If you have recommendations as to a brand, Part Number or Something I am Missing please let me know. And Above and Beyond all……….If you know of Sponsor’s that may be interested in helping somehow please Let me know. If you know of a web site that would post this mess let me know. I am building my own site right now But Why try to re-invent when there may be a site that is already known that will post this. I do not profess to be a jeep Cherokee specialist….not even an offroading expert (I have owned mainly chevy trucks until I bought the jeep and I am not going back)
Who I am
Scott Van Den Hout
37 Year old IT manager. Father of 3 Beautiful Girls (15, 16 and 19 years of age) *FEAR*
I started my work Carrier as a certified Mechanic in Michigan specializing in Heavy Service (Engine Transmission and axle rebuilding) for a large Buick/BMW dealership. I also worked for a local shop doing Auto, Truck, and Tractor repair. After becoming an instant father of 3 girls I decided the Auto repair industry just wasn’t paying the bills. I went to work for a large Michigan construction Company as a Iron worker on the welding crew. I became a certified welder at this point. I worked in this field for several years and then took a Fall from a building. I was not hurt bad but I no longer had any interest in heights much less walking steel. I went back to school and became an IT Professional. So there is a brief synopsis of my abilities to accomplish this project,
What I have right now………1992 Jeep Cherokee Laredo Purchased Used in 1996 It now has 244,000 Miles on it. With Severe Piston Slap. 3-4 Inches of custom lift using ZJ Front springs and a Add a Leaf rear. Stock 4.0L engine, AW4 transmission, NP231 Transfer case, Dana 30 Front axle and Chrysler 8.25 Rear Axle. 0 Skid plates. Bald 30” Mud Terrains. Notice the Oil Spots………The Great rear Main seal Leak

This is Where we are headed
The Idea here is to build the Everything as complete as possible on the stand to minimize Down time.

All Engine Machine work is being done by
Austin Jordan Engines
1228 Burton
Wyoming Michigan 49509
Phone 616 247 9960
Contact is Jason http://www.austin-jordan.com/

Engine Stroked 4.0 Liter
Done Already
Bored .040 Over
Decked .020
1976 258 Crank
1976 258 Rods
1996 Head
Silvolite .040 Pistons

Needed
Reclaimed Parts NEEDED yet
Valve Cover (Aluminum) and bolts (May have found one)
Timing Cover And Bolts
Alternator Brackets
Power Steering Brackets and bolts
Air Conditioning Brackets and bolts
Idler Pulley brackets and bolts
Intake with Fuel rail and Throttle Body
Crank Pulley and bolt
Oil Pan and Bolts
Exhaust Manifold (Found one for 50$)
Distributor
Distributor Hold down and Bolt
Flexplate (Purchased from Baker Auto Parts out of a 1996 for $25)

New Parts NEEDED Yet
Timing Chain
Cam
Lifters
Push Rods
Rockers and bridges
Oil Pump
Rod and Main Bearings
Gasket kit
Throttle Body Spacer
Injectors (Ford 5.0L 24#)
All New sensors/switches on motor (will expand list as I find out all that exist with name and part number
Belt
Idler Pulley
Alternator (Maybe Premier or similar)
Head Studs
Main Studs
Main Girdle
Air Tube
Thermostat Housing
Thermostat
Coil
Performance Chip (Jet?)

Transfer Case NP231 Donor Needed
Chain
SYE (looking at the Arizona Drive Shaft Kit)
General reconditioning?

Transmission AW4 Donor Needed (May Have found one used for 90$)
Rebuild Kit
Shift Kit
Off Road Torque Converter

Rear Axle Dana 44 Donor Needed (May have found one missing axle shafts) (Or found a 35 for 125$ already built)
Trac Lock or Detroit Locker
Ring and Pinion 4:10
Disk Brake Conversion
Axle Bearings
Axle Seals
Carrier Bearings

Front Axle Dana 30 Donor Needed (may have found one for 50$)
Axle Bearings
Axle Seals
Ring and Pinion 4:56
New Calipers
New Rotors
New Joints
Ball Joints upper
Ball Joints Lower
Carrier Bearings

Front Drive Shaft
Have Rebuilt at Valley Truck

Rear Drive Shaft
Tom Woods?

Lift Kit Mixed Brands
4.5 Rear Springs
4.5 Front Springs Looking at Teraflex right now used
Upper control arms
Lower Control arms
.75 Coil Spacer Tera Flex (Ordered)
1.5 Greasable rear Shackle Tera Flex (Ordered)
Sway Bar Disconects

Steering
Rusty’s?

Armor
Tank Skid Plate
Front Skid Plate
Transfer Skid Plate
Control Arms skid plate
Axle truss’s
Winch mount front bumper
Rear Bumper with Tire carrier and Jerry Can Carrier
Roof Rack (Done Custom Built)


Mobile Welder
I will be using the Mobi-Arc Unit

OnBaord Air
I will be using the NEW product from http://www.onboardair.com/ This is Manufactured By Kilby Enterprises. The Unit will use a York Compressor and Mount near the existing air comparessor. The new unit Is due out Mid Winter. It is Very Similar in design to the existing KE-1000 that fits the TJ and YJ. The new part number Should be KE-1700 and be in the price range of $150-$200. I am hoping to have this Kit Late January Early Feb. and will post a write up on this as soon as I can get it.


Interior Modifications
Over Head Console
Speaker Bar
Roll Bar
Fire Extinguisher
Spare parts and tools Box
Amp
Speakers
AM FM Cassette (Done Kenwood)


CD Changer (Done Kenwood)


CB (Done Uniden)

GPS
Accessory Plug-in’s
12Volt to 120 Volt Inverter
Cell Phone Mount for My Nextel


Tire’s and Rims
Rims AR 767 with 4.5 -5 Backspacing
Tires BR Goodrich 32” or 33” AT’s

Misc Possible other Modifications
Head Light Upgrade
Duel Battery set up
Winch
Reverse Light Upgrade (Someone posted once about brighter bulbs that can be ordered Also I like the idea of the reverse lights on that red rig on Rusty’s site)


Suppliers Thus Far

Austin Jordan Engines
1228 Burton
Wyoming Michigan 49509
Phone 616 247 9960
Contact is Jason http://www.austin-jordan.com/

Kilby Enterprises
1847 N. Keystone St. Burbank, Ca. 91504
Phone 818-848-2900
brad@onboardair.com

Mobile Welding & Power, Inc
Scott Stolper, President
805 Niantic Court
San Diego, CA 92109
(858) 488-2305
(858) 488-9878 Fax
scott@mobi-arc.com www.mobi-arc.com


6 Mile Auto Used Parts
2785 6 Mile Road NW
Comstock Park, MI
616 784 0330

Baker Auto arts
1907 ALPINE NW,
GRAND RAPIDS, MI
49504,
616, 363-1147 www.bakerautoparts.com

Cascade 4 wheel drive
2700 Northern Dr Se.
Grand Rapids, MI.
49512
(616) 949-3630

AutoValue (Sparta)
235 E. Division
Sparta, MI 49345
616-887-7357
616-887-5102 (FAX) www.autovalue.com

Napa (Sparta)
Sparta Motor Supply
11 N State
Sparta MI
49345
616 887 8730 www.napaonline.com

Car Quest (Walker)
3554 Alpine Avenue NW
Grand Rapids Michigan
49504
616-784-5784
616-784-6457 (FAX) www.carquest.com

Father of 3 Beautiful Girls (15, 16 and 19 years of age) *FEAR*

HA HA LMAO

I've got one, only 2 years old, and I'm already sh!ttin myself worrying about what's going to happen when she gets older!

Also, check out http://members.tripod.com/BillyXJ/tech.html, he's done a lot of what you're talking about. Only thing I can say is if you are replacing everything, why stick with AW4/231/d30? If you have to replace everything anyway, why not go bigger/better?

Tell Me about it
When the boys show up I get the hunting dog out and start cleaning the rifle..............that usually scares them off

Well it is like this........Where live there isnt allot of Rocks or stuff like that.........we have a few dunes......Trails (Glorified 2 Tracks).......and some mudd to play in. So the angle I am going with this is that I am building this project with the every day 4 wheeler in my area can afford and justify. True I could go with a 8.8 in the rear (and I still may) get a 44 for the front and custom weld up some control arm mounts......though the 8.8 may be reality around here I doubt most people with an XJ would even concider the 44. Just my reasoning and this is subject to change hense why I posted this long articall.........I want feed back to help me finalize my thought process


Thanks
Scott

Pics of your daughters newbie! :flipoff2:

hmmm
Seems like my home page is in my profile
http://www.firecloud.net
Go look

newbie.........grumble What does it take to get rid of that

oh yea and :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: Back to ya LOL

Originally posted by scottv

newbie.........grumble What does it take to get rid of that

first off:flipoff2: welcome newbie, and it takes more than 100 posts to become a WHEELER. (just a tip when you get to 100 be sure to delete all your previous posts :D :D :D :laughing:

LMAO
I will try to remember that :beer:

What's up with the gearing in your axles? 4.10 in the rear and 4.56 in the front? Just curious. Sounds like you've got your work cut out for you. Good luck.

three additions to the AW-4 Tranny section

deep pan
remote oil filter for tranny
tranny cooler

Problem with axles

4.10 listed for rear
4.56 listed for front

Tires

go with 33's

Brian
? are you sure you want to dump that much money into a XJ ?

well seeing I used to be a mechanic I get parts pretty cheap. I only have 500 into the engine so far and thats machine work block pistons and crank and rods already. I like your Idea for the trany I will investigate what is available for the AW4. Also going to look into a RV offroad Torque converter. Sorry I miss typed the gear ratios I think I am going for 4:56's

Ive only got a couple things to say.. First.. look for a Cherokee D44.. they are bolt in for you. I saw one with 4.56's and a detroit on the FS board a couple days ago... The guy wanted too much money for it though... something like 1000. Second.. DO NOT go with the AZ driveline SYE.. It may look cheap (inexpensive) but thats because it is. I talked to the guys over there in depth about it. Go with one from High Angle Driveline. Jesse builds awesome stuff. Ive got his kit in my yj and have NO complaints..
Scott

after all the talks on JU and NAXJA and stuff lately I am leaning toward a AA Kit and having the local Drive Shop (Valley Truck Parts) Build the shaft

dont pay more than 260 for the SYE kit and then build your own shaft with a front from your XJ

JB, AA is the way to go (replaces the shaft with a 241)

Thats the Idea
AA SYE
Get a Front Shaft from an XJ take it to the shop. They say they can make it HEavy Duty and all for under $100. They said to get a Shaft from the front mainly for the CV it would save me 50 - 100 That way

Keep Them Sugestions coming
At this rate I can get the initial write up done in no time and get out of this newbie status to

with this post i do declare i am no longer a newbie
:flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Luck Ass

Originally posted by redruM
with this post i do declare i am no longer a newbie
:flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

You're still a newbie in my book :flipoff2:
Scott :grinpimp:

Originally posted by 1badjeep


You're still a newbie in my book :flipoff2:
Scott :grinpimp:

Me too.

Oh yea.. dont waste any time with a Dana 30 front.

Go at least 44.

456 and a Dana 30 the pinion is too small and you cant upgrade any gears in the future.

Go with a 44 and 456's

Scottv, I just went to your site, suffice to say, ugh, shoot on site, cuz the boys are raise hell with your life...

Damn dude, I dread the day I have daughters...

-J

Heck I already saved his site in my favorites :flipoff2:

Dude, You should worry,,, I hope you raised them well.

Newbie go here first http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1542

then here
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1223

Naw Most of the boys my girls date around here are push overs. I scare most off with out even trying. I havent had a good challenge yet.:p

Unless you get a reverse rotation Dana 44, you really are gaining little by way of strength, the hubs are a little stronger.

A reverse rotation Dana30 is stronger than a standard Dana44. am I wrong???

thats what I have understood as well

Picking up the Engine tommarrow from the shop....Hope to start assymbly next week

Also Found a Donor D30 for the front out of a 92 that I am picking up tommarrow as well

Yeah the boys are easy now wait till one comes over with built jeep. It'll be a lot harder to hate him. I still wrench with one of my ex's dad

Built Jeep.............LOL they all have Ricer wantab's

Wooo Hooo
Picking up the
Block
Pistons
Rods
Crank
Flexplate
Balancer
from the machine shop tommarrow
Also Picking up a Donor D30 Tommarrow

Originally posted by scottv
Built Jeep.............LOL they all have Ricer wantab's

it's not BUILT... but I'm working on it... where you from, I might just come by and visit.

Dude! you could make that into a killer sig. on JU. :flipoff2:

The guy that broke a hundred and thinks he's not a newbie :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Scott's even a newbie still:flipoff2:

Brad, stop looking at those chicks and Start shipping:skull:

Heck of a drive for you
Sparta Michigan

hmmm JU Sig.............LOL NOW THATS AN IDEA

I found a D44 today..........Limited slip with 3:54 gears...........The Yard is asking $400 for it..........Thoughts? To me seems a touch high

is $400 to high for a used XJ D44 Rear end