: Stock T-case - Where is the limit?
Bomba 06-17-2004, 09:21 AM Hi, guys!
I'd like some advice.
As i need my rig(Samurai) for daily driving, so i'd rather not touch the HI gearing, i was wondering about using something like the Klune V, which is intermediate between the gearbox and t-case. Question is, how much does the stock t-case can handle since we're talking about 4:1 low BEFORE reaching the t-case? Oh, yeah, and a little upgrade to 1.6 engine, too... :)
I'll soon upgrade to Dana 44's, so i guess the diff's won't be much of a problem.
Thanks!
Rogerio
Samurai 95 MT
billj 06-17-2004, 09:43 AM Do a search on "married t-case" and youīll receive your answer........
Concerning the axles, yes, an axle swap is recommended in any and all cases. The choice between D44s or Toys is personal preference / circumstance, both are good.....
HTH.
PS: I was abnormally nice, being your first post and all. Donīt get used to it. Another thing: donīt fawk up and ask some stoopid ass question about your clicky starter or t-case jumping out of gear. You wonīt like the answers received.......
Bomba 06-17-2004, 10:02 AM Do a search on "married t-case" and youīll receive your answer........
Concerning the axles, yes, an axle swap is recommended in any and all cases. The choice between D44s or Toys is personal preference / circumstance, both are good.....
HTH.
>PS: I was abnormally nice, being your first post and all. Donīt get used to it. Another thing: donīt fawk up and ask some stoopid ass question about your clicky starter or t-case jumping out of gear. You wonīt like the answers received.......
Thks for that advice! That keyword is all i need.
About stupid questions... Don't worry, i know where and when to shut up and listen... that's what i've most done since i got into all that 4x4 thing... watch and learn... :D
billyjoebob 06-17-2004, 10:16 AM Hey, my starter is clickin, why is that...................
:flipoff2:
UZI 9mm 06-17-2004, 10:47 AM PS: I was abnormally nice, being your first post and all. Donīt get used to it.
:D was gonna ask if you were feeling alright man.
billj 06-17-2004, 11:13 AM :D was gonna ask if you were feeling alright man.
My rigīs one weekend away from being operational once again!!!!!!! :bounce2:
......and two weekends away from a comp, where Iīll likely fawk it all up again........ :p :D
bulletproof 06-17-2004, 02:33 PM klune makes a 4:1 now, that goes in place of the intermediate shaft?
bulletproof 06-17-2004, 02:34 PM also i would read alittle moreif i were you. if you plan on running bigger tires and still drive it on the street your going to want the small reduction in high range.
rotozuk 06-17-2004, 03:27 PM Yeah, just get a set of 5:1 or 6:1 gears, you will be happy. The lowering of the highrange is a good thing!
-Wayne
Crab Bait 06-17-2004, 03:45 PM My rigīs one weekend away from being operational once again!!!!!!! :bounce2:
......and two weekends away from a comp, where Iīll likely fawk it all up again........ :p :D :confused: "likely" :laughing:
NC Zuk 06-17-2004, 10:46 PM I'm not surprised that so many posted and only Wayne mentioned something about transfer case gears. We here in the Zuki community are quite fortunate to have a wide variety of aftermarket transfer case gear ratios available. The newest and biggest being the 8 to 1 gears now on the market. Buying a klune V will do little more than empty your wallet. Take a look at any of the Suzuki vendor sites below and go to the gearing section. You will find that all have something to offer that will save you a LOT over the Klune V that you mentioned. Just so you know, 24 % high range reduction is pretty spot on for a 33" tire when trying to get your high range close to a stock ratio. the 18% is pretty close to a 32 tire. I would tell you to do some searching but you will most likely find smart a$$ posts that say "search newbie!!" Heck, most of them are probably mine :shaking: Anyway, best of luck. Ask questions and in between the stupid comments you will most likely find the answers that you need :D
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Crab Bait 06-18-2004, 02:31 AM You hit a home run !http://www.lssix.com/forums/images/smilies/notworthy.gif
Orionn 06-18-2004, 05:39 AM Bomba: Be sure, that whatever you end up doing, that you beef up the t-case mounts, or get a bucket mount for it. that will save you ALOT of aggrivation later.
What transmision are you going to run with that 1.6L?
My rigīs one weekend away from being operational once again!!!!!!! :bounce2:
......and two weekends away from a comp, where Iīll likely fawk it all up again........ :p :D .....PS: I was abnormally nice, being your first post and all. Donīt get used to it......
I have to admit Billj, you WERE awfully nice....Not enough coffie yet? :laughing:
So you got your steering all figured out then?
If you get a chance post up a few update pics of how the new axles/steering is working out.
NCzuk; you got to it befor me. I agree, the Klune is not worth the $$$ considering all of the other options.
billj 06-18-2004, 09:41 AM So you got your steering all figured out then?
If you get a chance post up a few update pics of how the new axles/steering is working out.
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Iīll be installing the hydro pump tomorrow, itīs the final step in the build-up. I finally gave up trying to find a pump according to specs, the parts jocks around here just wanna know "what carīs it for?!?"...... They have no idea what to say when I ask for pressure and volume specs. :mad:
So I just decided to take a stab in the dark and bought a pump for an S-10. Iīm sure that thereīll be enough pressure, but Iīm concerned about the volume. Weīll see.........
I havenīt had access to a digicam in recent weeks. Iīll see if I can get some pics this weekend.......
Bomba 06-18-2004, 04:46 PM klune makes a 4:1 now, that goes in place of the intermediate shaft?
also i would read alittle moreif i were you. if you plan on running bigger tires and still drive it on the street your going to want the small reduction in high range.
Yeah, that's it. It has a u-joint to connect with the t-case, and takes all the remaining space from the intermediate shaft.
My first idea about it was reducing on the axles, instead of the t-case, since, as i said, i'll swap to D44's and so i could spare the time and get a better ratio than the 3,7 from the stock Zuki. That's why i was considering the Klune V.
Thanks for the advice!
Bomba 06-18-2004, 05:03 PM Buying a klune V will do little more than empty your wallet. Take a look at any of the Suzuki vendor sites below and go to the gearing section.
I have already done that. The other options, besides the Klune V, were the Calmini 6.5 and Megacrawler. I saw something about a Supercrawler, but not much more than that, other than its 8:1 reduction... :)
You will find that all have something to offer that will save you a LOT over the Klune V that you mentioned. Just so you know, 24 % high range reduction is pretty spot on for a 33" tire when trying to get your high range close to a stock ratio. the 18% is pretty close to a 32 tire. I would tell you to do some searching but you will most likely find smart a$$ posts that say "search newbie!!" Heck, most of them are probably mine :shaking: Anyway, best of luck. Ask questions and in between the stupid comments you will most likely find the answers that you need :D
My rig still has a long way to go, so i'll first go to 31". When i mount new axles and beef up the transmission a little, i'll think of playing with the big boys... :D
That's what i'm calculating for. Good thing is, if i reduce the diff's, the only thing i need to do when i get the new tires is changing the diff relations. I guess that's easier than redoing all the t-case.. But i'm still thinking about it.
When my rig becomes something worth mentioning here, i'll post some pics.
Thanks, man!
Bomba 06-18-2004, 05:22 PM Bomba: Be sure, that whatever you end up doing, that you beef up the t-case mounts, or get a bucket mount for it. that will save you ALOT of aggrivation later.
What transmision are you going to run with that 1.6L?
Thks for the advice! I'll check on it.
Well, i'm thinking about a Chevette gearbox. It's from a car commonly used here with 6cc engines, so i guess it has a lot of room to spare with the 1.6... That's subject to change, though. Maybe even keeping the stock one.
Before you ask, "here" in the above phrase, is Brazil. Here, options are somewhat restrained... so i have to watch each step before doing anything... :)
billyjoebob 06-18-2004, 07:29 PM Be sure, that whatever you end up doing, that you beef up the t-case mounts, or get a bucket mount for it
Word!
tipover 06-18-2004, 07:40 PM gots sambox?
rotozuk 06-21-2004, 11:37 AM Bomba,
Hate to tell you this, but last I heard the Klune is very expensive, and no longer available in a Suzuki kit.
As we were all saying, just go with a nice gear kit for the t-case. You will find it your best budget item. It will save you the expense of re-gearing your axles.. Even if you go to Dana axles. Why spend more money to regear the axles?
As for an alternative to the klune, there are Suzuki based crawl boxes from Trail Tough and Spidertrax. RingR allows the use of Toyota t-cases, OTT has some damn interesting options... You have missed many options. Not to mention the crazy stuff like Volve trannies and twin Suzuki cases....
-Wayne
samiguy 06-21-2004, 03:03 PM I have OTT's Kicker 3 and its SWEET
Bomba 06-23-2004, 07:38 AM Bomba,
Hate to tell you this, but last I heard the Klune is very expensive, and no longer available in a Suzuki kit.
As we were all saying, just go with a nice gear kit for the t-case. You will find it your best budget item. It will save you the expense of re-gearing your axles.. Even if you go to Dana axles. Why spend more money to regear the axles?
As for an alternative to the klune, there are Suzuki based crawl boxes from Trail Tough and Spidertrax. RingR allows the use of Toyota t-cases, OTT has some damn interesting options... You have missed many options. Not to mention the crazy stuff like Volve trannies and twin Suzuki cases....
-Wayne
Yeah, so i heard. Seems that Klune V is definitely out of my plans. After making some calculations, checking everything, and opinions from the guys here, i decided to mess with the t-case, instead... :)
Anyway, about the axles, it's not regearing, since i'll buy the D44's already with the reduced relations. And kill 2 birds with one stone.
Thought it was better to split the torque multiplying between axle and t-case, than concentrating all of it in only one... that's why i was thinking about reducing the t-case AND put the reduced D44's. Maybe i'll spend more money on that, but it's less prone to breakage too.
About the crazy stuff... I checked up the twin t-cases already, but i don't plan to go THAT high for now... :D
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