What's BIG & BLACK & Has 15"s Of Shaft.....??????.... SILICONE NOT INCLUDED

[PIG]

POLY PERFORMANCE BBCS 15" travel monotube nitrogen charged shocks.

Well after a long delay on the manufacturing on these things they are finally IN STOCK & ready to ship------>

THE LOW DOWN-
-A total of 15"s of shock travel.
-High pressure Nitrogen charged mono-tube (with internal floating piston (IFP)) construction that dissipates heat more effectively for increased seal life and durability.
-Degressive piston (both comp & reb sides), valved specifically for rockcrawling.
-Durable powdercoated finish for the best corrosion resistance.
-Nitro Steel shock shafts won’t chip or flake like chrome.
-Polyurethane bushings.
-Polyurethane bottomout bumper with Aumnium bumpcap.
-Welds done with robotic projection welder for accuracy and consistent quality.
-Tube ends are rolled closed for leak-free construction… other brands have tubes that are welded closed.
-Large, 46mm piston for more consistent damping.
-Viton seal and low friction piston rod bearing for long life and no leaks.

We have done alot of testing on the valve codes for this new shock absorber and its performance will reflect it. The shock is IDEAL for those of you running long travel leaf spring suspension setups (especially the Toyota guys). We will be releasing this same shock with an adjusted vlave code for coil spring applications in the near future.

PRICING: $99.99 Each and will be shipped for free for the remainder of July 04'

FYI: A special surprise for the first individual that places an order and is able to guess what BBCS stands for.
PICS------>

[PIG]

Another.

[PIG]

You want to see some more???? Post up then.

[keithflux]

When did you come out with those dual shock mounts? They are sweeeeet!

[PIG]

When did you come out with those dual shock mounts? They are sweeeeet!

There is more from where that came from holms.

[PIG]

Pics of the seal carrier/bump cap area...

[PIG]

Pics of the bottomout bumper.

[PIG]

I like this one......

[PIG]

I got more.......... but i'll wait till tomarrow...... I am saving the best for last.

Larry, were you at?????

[PIG]

Here an early pic of one installed.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=126638&stc=1

[Camotoy]

Sexay...The shocks I mean :D

Can't wait to see some action shots.

Big Black Competition Shocks :confused:

Big Bore Custom/Competition Shocks :confused:

Big Beautiful Cans (oh yeah and) Shocks :D :p

[Bratcher@Crawltech]

big black cock shocks? :laughing:

[xj4rocks]

What's the open and closed lengths on those shocks.....

and where's more pics.?

[stomper4x4]

Cool Shocks,, nice storage racks....

BBCS eather stands for Big Black Crawler Shocks or Bling Bling Crawler Shocks

[tubehead]

B-Big
B-Boobs
C-Come
S-Standard

hehe

[jays68yak]

Big Black Charged Shocks?

[TheTonka]

Damnit I can't see the shocks in those first pictures something must be in my line of sight that is making my ADD go nucking futs.


:flipoff2:


I like. I think I just changed my list. Now these are on there. How well should these do under a 5000lb leaf sprung Willys pickup? Weight distribution is fairly even front to rear.

[PIG]

Those are some good guesses....... one of you gys got it.

Here are some more bbobs for ya.

[PIG]

Another.

[PIG]

more

[PIG]

OK, last one...

[rustynuts]

last one? c'mon, i know you took more shots than that. very nice. :)

[B.C. 05]

Those are realllllllyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy nice!!


Shocks aren't bad either. :flipoff2:

[GOAT1]

We're you and Wes doing the "Yeah baby yeah! snap-spap.................and I'm spent."

[fcfred]

I thought Wes liked boyz

[PIG]

We're you and Wes doing the "Yeah baby yeah! snap-spap.................and I'm spent."


No... but I was not totally spent........ I could take photos of half neked womens all day long sucka.

[PIG]

I thought Wes liked boyz

Thats why he came with me.......... so he wouldnt hog the goods.

Wes, if you are reading this :flipoff2:

[woody]

nice dampers.... ;D

[RedNeckRea]

nice dampers.... ;D
damn dave...you really followed through with the pic :flipoff2:

BBCS = Big Black Cock Shocks :D

[Arya Ebrahimi]

How much did those cost?!? Yes I know the shocks are $99 ;)

[MC]

Look at the shocks on that one

[StinkBug]

Damn you weren't kidding :eek:

Got mine already. Thanks for the quick service Dave. Got em all mounted up and they are Saweet. I can already tell they are gonna ride a ton better than the ranchos on my rig. From playing around in the shop the damping feels nice and smooth and matches the rear Fox airs nicely. Cant wait to drive the thing :D

http://www.stinkyfab.com/images/bugzuki/2/000_0750.JPG

Dallas

[broncofreak2000]

Big Bad Cock Strong

[MAD MAC]

yeah how much did them thangs cost ya and yes I am talking about the beewbies. oh by the way what is the rod diameter of the shock.

[redramsport]

Damn, gotta get me a set of them!!

And some of the shocks too, barely noticed those in the pics!!

Compressed and Extended length???

Any plans on a shorter version, don't know if I would need the that much?!?

Concentrate damn it, I'm talking about shock travel!! :flipoff2:

[mobil1syn]

PIG, i know nothing about shocks and well you know alot. How do these compare to a bilstien 5100? right now i gots ranchos but was considering 5100s but these are out now. my truck sees rocks, dez, and street. mostly street and rocks. thanks for your time.

[Bill Collins]

when i talked to dave at moab,he said he drove out of the road from pricet cayon at a nice fast speed with his proto shocks he had,i had just came out the same road with my doest tech shocks and it beat the shit out of me,i think we got the same springs too...

[hmns]

I can verify first hand since I was in Dave's rig when we drove out of Prichett that these shocks are fawking amazing.... We were hitting shit that should have knocked our teeth out and these things just sucked it up.....Try them you will not be dissapointed!!!!!!

[nosduj]

ditto, whats the extended/collapsed length on them?

[TRD]

36.375 extended
21.375 collapsed

[KC_JoNeS]

FYI: A special surprise for the first individual that places an order and is able to guess what BBCS stands for.


can I place an order for a weld in bung and still guess what the BBCS stands for? Well, I already know what it stands for, but I dont want to give it away if I have to order the big black cock shox to win. OOPS! I let the cock out of the shorts....uh, I mean bag! :cool2:

[PIG]

can I place an order for a weld in bung and still guess what the BBCS stands for? Well, I already know what it stands for, but I dont want to give it away if I have to order the big black cock shox to win. OOPS! I let the cock out of the shorts....uh, I mean bag! :cool2:

So call in and order some shocks and guess the name and maybe get a little reach around..... :laughing:

[PIG]

Ttt

[redcbr007]

We know where the $$ is going :rolleyes: :p

[PIG]

We know where the $$ is going :rolleyes: :p

You know what that means right....???? Buy some shocks an maybe next time i'll post pics of chick Rooster deep...... :smokin: :confused:

[Donahoe]

BYe The Way.... YOu are welcome for the GREATEST MARKETING IDEA sence the pet rock. BBCS IS CLEVER, GROOVY, AND THE DAMM TRUTH... PEACE OUT.

PS.... Wes likes girls...he thinks they are fun to shop with.

[TRD]

We have been receiving quite a few calls about the applications for these shocks which leads us to this general response. These shocks feature rockcrawler valving. This is the same style valving we set all our coilovers up with. Obviously the valving for a coil spring vrs. leaf spring application will be a bit different which is why these shocks will /are available for either application. These shocks perform well on a variety of leaf sprung vehicles, from light tube buggies to fullbodied exocage crawlers.

[IronBenderII]

So how do these compare with say 7100's? What valving is available? Are they owner-rebuildable?

Looks nice!

Jack

[TRD]

The first difference is that they are $70 cheaper.
They are not revalvable because there is no need to revalve them. Pig spent a lot of time tuning these shocks so you wont have to.

[LCL]

PMed you PIG

[Jason M]

2 questions, can they be revalved? And what is the compressed length?

[TRD]

2 questions, can they be revalved? And what is the compressed length?

They cannot be revalved. The valving has been tuned for a variety of leaf sprung rockcrawlers. The compressed length is 21.375 inches.

Ryan

[PIG]

BYe The Way.... YOu are welcome for the GREATEST MARKETING IDEA sence the pet rock. BBCS IS CLEVER, GROOVY, AND THE DAMM TRUTH... PEACE OUT.

PS.... Wes likes girls...he thinks they are fun to shop with.

Mr. DR, Mr. MackDaddy, Mr. Craig Donahoe................. I ain't sure if its as tight as the pet rock...... but its pretty good. Next time I see you drinks on me. :barf: :barf: :barf: Pun intended.

EDIT: And yes Wes does like to shop with womens.

[LCL]

I'm getting the DEAL :D

Ryan- I'll be calling you on monday to discuss some things now that I'm not running out
of the door.

[TRD]

:smokin:

[Beat95YJ]

oh by the way what is the rod diameter of the shock.

I believe that I heard the rod is 5/8.

[TRD]

I believe that I heard the rod is 5/8.

that is correct

[TRD]

;)

[LCL]

Came home at two and they were waiting for me. You guys have impressive turn
around as I was talking to Dave at about 5 yesterday. I don't need to mount them for
a while but it's assuring to know I have them and you operate quickly.

dave- check your e-mail

[turbrotoy]

Damn If thats the shock babe .I cant wait to see the pigfield GIRL :eek: WOW! :D :eek: :D :eek: :evil: :eek: :D

[TRD]

wait till you see what she does with it :eek:

[TRD]

I just installed some in the rear of my truck. All I can say is WOW!!!

cant wait to get the fronts on

[LCL]

i'd like to see some mount picts. how far did they come towards the center on the cross
member?

[ErikB]

Ordered a pair today. :)
I'm curious how they'll compare to the 5100's I've been running...

[TRD]

i'd like to see some mount picts. how far did they come towards the center on the cross
member?


I ended up mounting them vertical because the rear sits so low and I wanted to have enough up travel to rail it at pismo.

Here are some pics

I still need to work on the front but the rear is great!

[TRD]

Erik, youll have your shocks this afternoon

[ErikB]

Erik, youll have your shocks this afternoon

Package Progress:

Jul 14, 2004 12:17 P.M. ROCKLIN, CA, US DELIVERY
Jul 13, 2004 7:22 P.M. SAN LUIS OBISPO, CA, US ORIGIN SCAN


Just a hair over 24 hours from when I talked to Dave on the phone to having them on my rig. :smokin:

So far, I'm VERY impressed! They are firmer than the Bilsteins like I'd hoped, but still don't give a harsh ride like Rancho's do. And that's just from some boonie-crashing through the front yard and then hauling ass on the way to work. My truck has much better control than with the Bil's.

I even backed off the rear 9012's one notch and it still handles great. (my rig is a commuter rig) I'm seriously considering replacing the 9012's too (wife may get pissed, but... ). The only reason I have the 9012's in the back is so I can crank them up real stiff for towing and stuff. These shocks seem good enough that I may not need that, and I'm sure they'll ride a ton better too!

I can't wait to actually take them wheeling! :cool2:

http://home.4x4wire.com/erik/images/DSC04248.jpg
http://home.4x4wire.com/erik/images/DSC04250.jpg

[PIG]

Package Progress:

Jul 14, 2004 12:17 P.M. ROCKLIN, CA, US DELIVERY
Jul 13, 2004 7:22 P.M. SAN LUIS OBISPO, CA, US ORIGIN SCAN


Just a hair over 24 hours from when I talked to Dave on the phone to having them on my rig. :smokin:

So far, I'm VERY impressed! They are firmer than the Bilsteins like I'd hoped, but still don't give a harsh ride like Rancho's do. And that's just from some boonie-crashing through the front yard and then hauling ass on the way to work. My truck has much better control than with the Bil's.

I even backed off the rear 9012's one notch and it still handles great. (my rig is a commuter rig) I'm seriously considering replacing the 9012's too (wife may get pissed, but... ). The only reason I have the 9012's in the back is so I can crank them up real stiff for towing and stuff. These shocks seem good enough that I may not need that, and I'm sure they'll ride a ton better too!

I can't wait to actually take them wheeling! :cool2:

http://home.4x4wire.com/erik/images/DSC04248.jpg
http://home.4x4wire.com/erik/images/DSC04250.jpg

Hows that for delivery time....... nice pics by the way. Slap those stickers on and take some more.

[SeaBass44]

what type billstiens did you replace? model #?

[ErikB]

...the 14" travel 5100's.

A little longer-term update- they don't really seem much different than the Bil's in the smaller bumps, but they seem to have better control/ride on the bigger bumps. The truck settles down quicker.

[engine2firefighter]

Great customer service. Thanks fellas!!

[TRD]

Great customer service. Thanks fellas!!


Let us know how you like them

[JeepinDoug]

Dave and Ryan, Thanks, I got my UPS T/N. Can't wait to mount them up.

Big bump to the top......Free shipping July is almost over!!!

Doug

[JeepinDoug]

Damn, I got em today, nice!
I looked like a monkey fawking a football trying to get the two on, what's the best way to compress them for fitting? I extended my suspension but there must be an easier way, I was just too excited to think about it. Then I started to really plex out when I couldn't find the BBCS15 stickers, pretty sneaky putting them between the boxes.
Swaeet shocks!!!
Thanks again, Doug

[TRD]

to install mine, i wrapped a tie down around it to collapse it to the length i wanted

[TRD]

In stock, ready to ship

[Scott Jensen]

TRD, do you have TB old truck?

[TRD]

yes

[TRD]

here is an old pic

[TRD]

.

[TRD]

still in stock

[rockcandy]

could you pm me a price for 2 shipped to 85338? I may replace all 4 if shipped price isn't too bad...shoot the price for 4 shipped too please :)

[T34418L3one]

pm price for 2 shipped to 94566 please

[Moab Austin]

whats the shaft size?
they rebuildable?

they look so small in those pics :D

[hbar314]

Could you pm me a price on 4 shipped to 76011? Also what options are there for payment? Could you take a money order? thanks

[kmurphy187]

price for 2 shipped to 958312, thanks

[TRD]

Could you pm me a price on 4 shipped to 76011? Also what options are there for payment? Could you take a money order? thanks
5/8 shaft

not rebuildable

[TRD]

pm's sent

sorry for the delay, just got back from CalRocs

[TRD]

still in stock

[jekbrown]

quote on 2 shipped to 98686. My DT8000s need to go... one had an encounter with a steering arm pushed by a hydro ram... lol! :D btw, did I read that one post right... are there 2 different versions/valvings? if so, i got a heavy leaf sprung K5... that sees a little on-road time to/from trails... so hook me up. :D

ahhh, dang it.. the free shipping deal has expired. curses!! :(

j

[JeepinDoug]

Got to use mine this weekend for the first time, they rock!!!
http://www.crawltech.com/albums/album109/Almost_done_2.jpg
Now I need a pair for the rear and dump the cr@ppy RSXs.
Thanks........To the top

[lentzOUTLAWZ4x4]

can i get a price on 4 to 95503

[TRD]

Currently all the shocks are valved for leaf spring suspensions. We are working on valving for coil spring suspensions however they are currently not available.

[TRD]

nice rig!

[Gummi Bear]

Currently all the shocks are valved for leaf spring suspensions. We are working on valving for coil spring suspensions however they are currently not available.


Is there an ETA for when the Coil version will be available? I'm in the market for new shocks on my EB.

The price is much more attractive than the 7100's that I have been ogling.

Thanks

[PIG]

Got to use mine this weekend for the first time, they rock!!!
http://www.crawltech.com/albums/album109/Almost_done_2.jpg
Now I need a pair for the rear and dump the cr@ppy RSXs.
Thanks........To the top


Nice BBCS pic guy....... glad to hear they are working great on your rig.

[TRD]

Is there an ETA for when the Coil version will be available? I'm in the market for new shocks on my EB.

The price is much more attractive than the 7100's that I have been ogling.

Thanks
It is still a ways in the future, we have a lot of new products we want to produce and it all takes time.

These shocks will work better work better than 7100's right out of the box!

[TRD]

Here is a thread about the BBCS (http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=281773&highlight=bbcs)

Here is another thread about the BBCS (http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=283014&highlight=piss+shocks)

[Gummi Bear]

Thanks for the response, reading the first thread is what piqued my interest in them initially.

I may have missed what makes the valving issue different between the two, but would you mind covering what makes the valve rates different between leaf and coil springs? How come other manufacturers don't discriminate between the two?

[TRD]

Here is a quick reply...

Basically leaf springs naturally have some damping in the form of friction, so less shock damping is required than a coil spring. Other manufacturers specify this as light or medium damping.

[Tim84K10]

Wow, screw the 5150s then, I know what I want now. :)

[TRD]

Ive got em whenever you are ready

[TRD]

In stock

[rockcandy]

I ordered mine 2 days ago. Got them today and went out to put them on. I can't really compare pro comp shocks to these I suppose(apples to oranges in my opinion) but I am very impressed so far. Great job with the valving on these!!!

[PIG]

I ordered mine 2 days ago. Got them today and went out to put them on. I can't really compare pro comp shocks to these I suppose(apples to oranges in my opinion) but I am very impressed so far. Great job with the valving on these!!!

Thanks for the good words....... we spent alot of time getting these things dialed in correctly.....

[rockcandy]

here is a pic of them mounted on my rig. Once again, I must say good job guys!

http://www.fullsizejeeps.com/jeeps/files/AZ_FSJers/updated2.JPG
http://www.fullsizejeeps.com/jeeps/files/AZ_FSJers/shock6.JPG

They added a nice touch to the rearend of the Jeep :)

[TRD]

That is a sick Jeep!

Like the tube job!

[92toy21]

love the shocks on those tits they have sold me on those. now how much more for her to put them on for me? :smokin:

[24hoursofNevada]

I've yet to notice a shock in this thread...What are you guys talking about :eek:

[ErikB]

That's actually what TRD was talking about. Pigs "BBCS's" are edelbrocks. But with super secret squirrel valving just for us Toy's :)

Any truth to this? Do they still use the intertia valve (IAS)?

I've been thinking about trying the Edelbrocks too, but I don't need the remote res, or the extra cost for it. If these are basically the same, then there's no point in trying Edelbrocks and I can just buy another pair of BBCS.

And if they are Edelbrocks, are you a dealer? I want to buy a set of them (normal OEM length ones) for my wife's DD truck and I'd rather buy them here than from 4wp.



EDIT- ah, just checked the web site again and its been updated since I looked last. Edelbrocks are now on your list. :cool2: (but the Edelbrock page is blank)

GOOD, I've got some questions about the Edelbrocks since you guys actually know what you're talking about instead of just reading what's on the computer (4wp).

Are the "Xtreme Travel" shocks available w/o the reservoir? Price?
Are they available in different lengths (like 12" travel?) ?
What's the price for the "86-95 Toy w/ 3" lift" front shocks?
PM me prices if you want.

[84runner]

That's actually what TRD was talking about. Pigs "BBCS's" are edelbrocks. But with super secret squirrel valving just for us Toy's

Any truth to this? Do they still use the intertia valve (IAS)?

I've been thinking about trying the Edelbrocks too, but I don't need the remote res, or the extra cost for it. If these are basically the same, then there's no point in trying Edelbrocks and I can just buy another pair of BBCS.

And if they are Edelbrocks, are you a dealer? I want to buy a set of them (normal OEM length ones) for my wife's DD truck and I'd rather buy them here than from 4wp.


Wow, you quoted me from another thread, and I just happened to be reading this one. All I meant by that was that they are 'made' by edelbrock but valved for toyota leafspring / toy axles. And that's just what Ive heard word of mouth specifically from some peeps down in his area at Pismo a few weeks back.

Wasn't trying to mislead anyone...

[Beat95YJ]

Any truth to this? Do they still use the intertia valve (IAS)?

I've been thinking about trying the Edelbrocks too, but I don't need the remote res, or the extra cost for it. If these are basically the same, then there's no point in trying Edelbrocks and I can just buy another pair of BBCS.

And if they are Edelbrocks, are you a dealer? I want to buy a set of them (normal OEM length ones) for my wife's DD truck and I'd rather buy them here than from 4wp.



EDIT- ah, just checked the web site again and its been updated since I looked last. Edelbrocks are now on your list. :cool2: (but the Edelbrock page is blank)

GOOD, I've got some questions about the Edelbrocks since you guys actually know what you're talking about instead of just reading what's on the computer (4wp).

Are the "Xtreme Travel" shocks available w/o the reservoir? Price?
Are they available in different lengths (like 12" travel?) ?
What's the price for the "86-95 Toy w/ 3" lift" front shocks?
PM me prices if you want.

A few of my friends have bought Edelbrocks through Pig for the tow rigs. All are happy.

Edelbrock has a line called Xtreme IAS which are the same as Xtreme Travel without the Reservoir (whatever) All the same applications are covered.

[TRD]

BBCS's Are Not The Same As Edelbrock Shocks

Dont know who you heard that from but it wasnt me.

[muddogbob]

TRD,

You think it would be a big deal to use these shocks as bumpstops???

[TRD]

These ok for light bump stop duty. AKA no jumping or prerunning.

[ErikB]

BTW, I meant to post this a while ago, but here is a really easy way to compress the shocks to get a ratchet strap on instead of fighting with them. :)

[ErikB]

Edelbrock "universal" shock length info from Dave (PIG):

Travel/Extended length
7", 20.32"
8.1", 22.73"
10", 26.63"
12.2", 31.26"
14.2", 35.46"

Available in soft or medium valving, w/ or w/o reservoir.


As for BBCS being made by Edelbrock, this is basically what he had to say:
Edelbrock makes a LOT of different shocks for a LOT of different companies (he rattled off a handful of names he knew of). The similarities between Edelbrock's "Xtreme" line and BBCS are the tube body and the end loops. Everything else is different, especially the internals, which of course dictate how the shock performs. The Edelbrocks use their own patented valving, and the BBCS use the digressive style valving that Dave spent all that time and effort to tune. He doesn't want people comparing the BBCS to Edelbrocks because they really are very different.

Anyway, Dave was very helpful, and I ordered some Edelbrocks for my wife's daily driver. :D

[Blue-Beard]

ok I know that the BBCS aren't yet availible with valving for a coil sprung rig so what shock would you recomend for a coil sprung rig? I thinking along the same price lines as a BBCS or Bilstein 5125 or so, not a super expensive shock. Do the Edelbrock IAS shocks have a valving better suited for a coil'd rig? Thanks :D

[TRD]

If you need something immediatly I would look at fox emulsion shocks or edelbrock IAS.

Coil Spring version is in testing so hold on!

[TRD]

in stock

[SlamChops]

how much for 2 shipped to 36605

[Eskimo]

love the shocks on those tits they have sold me on those. now how much more for her to put them on for me? :smokin:

Damn, you're thick.. That's the man's WIFE, you dumbass. Show a little respect. :shaking:

Don't get me wrong, she is :smokin: hot, but I seriously doubt you'd be commenting like you did if they were standing right in front of you...

Sorry to go O/T.

[toymachine13]

do you i am going to order some tomorrow. Do you guys do a 10 % pirate discount or anything. If you have a sec, could you tell me how much for 2 shipped to Socorro, NM 87801. Thanks fellas

[TRD]

Free shipping

[ErikB]

Ryan or Dave-
Those Edelbrocks I ordered back in November still haven't shown up... should I be worried yet? If so, is there a way you can check on the order with Edelbrock for me?

[TRD]

pm sent

[rockalot]

Checking on my order placed Monday morning.
Not in a hurry just going by what you said & I haven't rcvd a tracking # yet.

[rockalot]

Worry not (like you would :flipoff2: ) they arrived Wed.
Was I sapose to get a couple BBCS sticks? all there was in the box were Poly's.

[LaNeR88]

What's the deal with these shocks are they still in stock and is there free shipping?

[TRD]

In stock, free shipping in lower 48. For those who got them without stickers gimme. We ran out and Ill get them to you when they come in.

sorry

[Blue-Beard]

any updates on a version tuned for coils?

[TRD]

We are working on protypes, just havnt had a chance to really test them yet.

[toymachine13]

Got mine a few weeks ago, and got them on. After working out mounting issues, I finally got to test them out this weekend. SAAWWEEEEEEET!. I love these things. They ride nice, and I felt alot more stable than usual. WIth rears up front I was getting abou 13" of total travel. On compression at that much travel I was rubbing the shock witht the tire....again.

Anyway, you guys did an excellent job on these shocks. Keep up the good work.

FOr anyone who is curious....there are some pics on our website (I'm the exo'd toy)
Most of the good pics are in my writeup here:
http://infohost.nmt.edu/~jscarbro/waterfall%20trip%20report.htm

some more here:
http://www.ee.nmt.edu/~offroad/images/index.php?album=01-23-05/

[Fawk Awph]

i am intrested in these shocks. i plan to use a ford shock tower and some tabs on top of the axle. i am using 96 bronco leafs and full width chevy. first question is: is it ok to mount the front shocks slightly inward towards the top.

and for those already running these: what is the normal length of shaft showing when parked on flat ground?

oh ya. 4 shipped to 97527

Callen

[PIG]

i am intrested in these shocks. i plan to use a ford shock tower and some tabs on top of the axle. i am using 96 bronco leafs and full width chevy. first question is: is it ok to mount the front shocks slightly inward towards the top.

and for those already running these: what is the normal length of shaft showing when parked on flat ground?

oh ya. 4 shipped to 97527

Callen

free shipping

[Fawk Awph]

free shipping


oh, my bad. . . right on :smokin:


they are still $100 a piece?

Callen

[TRD]

Yes, $100 ea and free shipping

[Roc Doc]

I ended up mounting them vertical because the rear sits so low and I wanted to have enough up travel to rail it at pismo.

Hey, BTW how's that rear suspension holding up? Any complaints or things you'd change?

Back on topic, I'm running 9012's now and like the ability to soften them up for crawling, or making them stiffer for road driving, (very little), or trailering. Where would you say the valving of a BCCS lies in the 1-5 range of the Rancho's?

Doc

[PIG]

Hey, BTW how's that rear suspension holding up? Any complaints or things you'd change?

Back on topic, I'm running 9012's now and like the ability to soften them up for crawling, or making them stiffer for road driving, (very little), or trailering. Where would you say the valving of a BCCS lies in the 1-5 range of the Rancho's?

Doc

I would say that this style of shock is a totally different animal in that is has several stages of dampening......... Give us a ring and we would b happy to explain how the deressive piston works.... or better yet here was a thread awhile back that explains a little bit more.... If anyone has any more indepth tech questions give us a ring as we would be happy to explain more.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=305615&highlight=valving

Dave

[Roc Doc]

http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0RQDvAkwUlcHgrxS7IZl!NyDzNhkreDbkhgaUfvzkY70keITV0 tbfbf7K5HK!KykiOVVcr*iqlaDL*VrVXQq9eurx2Tgr7aim7Eh RR2VcYbA/Crossed%20up.jpg?dc=4675506368635214779

OK, so this is my junk crossed up, and you can see with the 9012's I'm not out of shock travel, so I really don't need the extra length of the BCCS. But since they are NOT position sensitive, this shouldn't hinder the valving, right?

And since I have my shocks mounted /\ style, it should have a 0.75:1
motion ratio...right? Is this a problem?

I read the thread, and now understand the theory at least. I wouldn't say I'm ready to work on the Herbst trucks just yet, but at least I understand what they're trying to accomplish.



Thanks,

Doc

Edit: I can't get the pic to post right now so here's the link; http://groups.msn.com/PBBPix/parkeraz105.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=96

[TRD]

These are velocity sensitive.

You will get better results from any shock if you mount them at an angle leaning forwards or backwards instead of leaning in. It will give you better roll stability.

Mounting them at an angle is not a problem but will decrease the effective damping.

[Roc Doc]

These are velocity sensitive.

Alrighty then...H.A.N.U.

I'm calling to place an order.

Doc

[muddogbob]

Curious. How long before we can expect different length BBCS, and what lengths should we expect?

[PIG]

Curious. How long before we can expect different length BBCS, and what lengths should we expect?

11" , 13"

As well as the coil spring valving.......... I don't have a delivery date as of yet, but they are comming.

[BossBuilt]

Do I need a coupon for the free shipping?...the web site charges me shipping when I check out......thanks
-Kerry

[PIG]

Do I need a coupon for the free shipping?...the web site charges me shipping when I check out......thanks
-Kerry

Try coupon code 69... if that doesnt work paypal us @ sales@polyperformance.com the total amount of the shocks without freight and we will process the order..... or call to order over the phone.

Dave

[BossBuilt]

69 didn't work so I sent it direct......thanks for a quick responce.
-Kerry

[PIG]

69 didn't work so I sent it direct......thanks for a quick responce.
-Kerry

I got them bagged and tagged before I left the office tonight.... thanks for the order.

[Roc Doc]

Got 'em yesterday, and damn are they long. I mounted them /\ and there is only have about 6" of shaft showing, so I think I'm going to pierce the flatbed and run them pre-runner style. I should be able fab an upper mount right off of the roll cage. (Pic with the old 9012's).

http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0RQAfA1oUKsPgrxS7IZl!NyDzNhkreDbkhgaUfvzkY70keITV0 tbfbcg05F3Nx8fUF8wbrLRS7yQf7u8yVIKwGrtD59iXLRkiJnq C2ai8RBg/Crossed%20up.jpg?dc=4675506368635214779

SAWEET product!

Doc

[TRD]

6" of shaft showing is plenty for rockcrawling

Pig barely has 5" showing.

I'll get the shipping thing fixed today

[Roc Doc]

6" of shaft showing is plenty for rockcrawling

OK, thanks. I think I'd still rather have a 1:1 motion ratio, and I don't need to mount them for anti-wrap purposes either, as I have an anti-wrap bar. If you look at the picture, that's about all the up travel I can get before the 38's get into the fenders, so it doesn't make that much difference anyway, but I'd like to be able to use the droop. So once I make the new mounts I'll likely have about 6-7" of shaft showing at static ride height.

Doc

[Bartcore]

Just got mine last night, they are sick as fawk and that was some damn fast shipping :beer:

[BossBuilt]

I've got about 4 1/2" showing...great shocks and service, thanks.. now back to the top
-Kerry

[jekbrown]

man, i need to get mine installed so I can post some picks. Im swapping in 52" springs into my k5 which will have mad drooping capability (for a leaf spring anyway)... prolly end up using every inch of that 15. :D top quality shock, now all I need to do is save my pennies so I can get 2 more for the rear of my rig... ;)

j

[TRD]

Thanks for the posts!

[muddogbob]

Any word on the 13" and 11"ers? :smokin:

[TRD]

Still a couple months out

[stretchnutz]

Pmed Ya

[KJ4Me]

If you look hard engough at the pics, you'll see the shocks

[Westy]

"You will get better results from any shock if you mount them at an angle leaning forwards or backwards instead of leaning in. It will give you better roll stability.

Mounting them at an angle is not a problem but will decrease the effective damping."

TRD/PIG: Both shocks mounted forwards or backwards or one shock forward/one backward (ie: stock toyota configuration)??
I've got Alcans that flex like crazy but also contribute to alot of body roll on sidehills, off camber situations, etc..my doestech shocks are really soft too and dont help...
I think these BBCS might help alleviate this problem somewhat? What do you guys think? I need new shocks anyways and want to re mount my rears to run longer shocks also.
Brian

[PIG]

I would lean them both the same dirrection.
If you mount them near the outside of the rig these will help with body roll.

Ryan

[Westy]

Thanks Ryan.

[stretchnutz]

ordered mine yesterday at 3,got them today by 5.thanks guys.

[Rollie]

those are big

[brocbronc]

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=137456

TRD, why did you switch from coils to leaves on the rear 3link?
Here is mine. It is a copy of your original design, but on an 84 4runner. The rear of my frame was damaged so I bobbed 13 inches and I had no rear hanger left.

http://pics.montypics.com/brewman/2005-03-31/1112334919_imag0034.jpg

[TRD]

I changed it because I wanted more travel. When I bought their were farily stiff coils on it for street performance (it was a DD). I was only interested in trail performance. My buddy convinced me to cut it off one day when we were bored at the machine shop. I never had time to get the quarter eliptic to work correctly. I'm finishing up mounting BBCS coilspring valving coilovers right now. I will be testing them and tuning them to get the valving correct.

What spring rate are you running? I could not get a soft enough spring rate because the rear end is so light. You will probably have better luck.

I'll post updated pics once I'm done (possibly this weekend)

[brocbronc]

200#. I havent driven it more than off the trailer because it has 4.3 tbi that I cant get to run correctly.

[TRD]

I think mine was 225 or 250 I'd have to look to be sure. Your rig is heavier so that rate will probably work better for you.

Ryan

[1972CJ5+1]

Mine showed up in 2 days. Thanks guys. I still need a set for my 4link. Any idea on the date for the coil version? I would hate to have to buy some other guys shocks and then get a new set from you a month later.

[TRD]

We are in the test phase. Still a couple months out on the coil spring valving

[gtxracer]

Are the 11" and 13" still on sched for August, or do you think you might have them out in June or early July? If not, the 15" will have to work at the time. ;) thanks....

[PIG]

Are the 11" and 13" still on sched for August, or do you think you might have them out in June or early July? If not, the 15" will have to work at the time. ;) thanks....

Just got word that all the 11", 13" leaf spring valved versions should be done with production the end of next week.........

[desertghost]

Are the 11 and 13s considered BBCS or LWCS?

[muddogbob]

Are the 11 and 13s considered BBCS or LWCS?

lol

[big94GMC]

Little White????








:laughing:

[Beat95YJ]

I have heard through the pigvine that both the leaf and coil versions will be offered in all three lengths. But I have been wrong before.

[TRD]

I have heard through the pigvine that both the leaf and coil versions will be offered in all three lengths. But I have been wrong before.
You got it chief

All valving in all lengths

Word is somone made it happen the leaf spring shocks should be here this week

[Jason M]

:d

[appx91]

Still looking at free shipping for the 15" ones?

[TRD]

Yes

[Westy]

I saw V 2.0 is coming out for the BBCS. Any difference from the BBCS-15s?? Also, when are the 13" ones available?

[TRD]

We are still waiting for the shorter lengths to show up.

However the 15"ers are here.

I'll start a new thread for them since we made some upgrades

[muddogbob]

I can't wait to order me a set!

[cost overrun]

How much for 4 15's for a 4runner on leafs to 98201

[big94GMC]

Man, I love those pictures.... :eek:



I know it's your wife, bro, so all I'll say is you're a lucky, lucky man. And thank you for the pics ;)

[TRD]

That is not Pigs (or anybodys) wife or gf. And she does have HUGE jugs :D

[PIG]

Man, I love those pictures.... :eek:



I know it's your wife, bro, so all I'll say is you're a lucky, lucky man. And thank you for the pics ;)

I would be the first to let everyone know I was hitt'in that....... but I am not. She is just a good friend.

[muddogbob]

You gonna get her with a few 11" and 13"ers? I bet should could man-handle those little guys.

[sintax]

Any word on availablity and pricing on the 11's? Looking for a set for the rear of my xj

[foxrangerxx]

those are some of the nicest shocks i have seen in a while :smokin: :smokin: :D http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=133861&stc=1

[PIG]

Ahem....

Call me with the digits! Hook a brotha up!


1-900-BIG-TITS .com :flipoff2:

Ryan

[big94GMC]

1-900-BIG-TITS .com :flipoff2:



LOL



That is not Pigs (or anybodys) wife or gf.


She's single? :D I'm thinking about moving back to Cali - maybe her area has some good property values (yea, right!! :laughing: ). And of course I'm gonna need someone to show me around, so.... Hmmm.... :cool2: Tell her a southern gentleman is callin'.



TTT for some great BBCS with free shipping....



:beer:

[Hyena]

Any pics of the new ones on your truck TRD?

[TRD]

Hey Frank :flipoff2:



Here are pics


http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=183709
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=183708

Ignore the brake lines. I got some new bling lines in effect.

[TheBandit]

Does polyperformance discount Cal Poly students? Also, where in town are you guys located? pm please.

[TRD]

pm sent

[ShaggyDoo]

What's Happening? I am the new answer guy, so i'll be happy to take any questions or PM's.

[xjoe]

Big Black cock shocks.

[muddogbob]

What's Happening? I am the new answer guy, so i'll be happy to take any questions or PM's.

So when the fawk do I get my 13"ers? :flipoff2:

[ShaggyDoo]

They're supposed to be back from manufacturing this week, and we plan on shipping the day we get them. We're pretty anxious over here as well :D .

[1972CJ5+1]

At risk of sounding a little........... what happened to the other add? I had been following it awaiting the 15" coil version. Don't get me wrong, I like this one better, I just wanted to make sure I wasn't looking in the wrong spot. So anyway, what is the ETA on the 15" coil version.

[ShaggyDoo]

It's cool, your in the right spot. We're about to drop a new thread within a few days, so look for more info there when it hits.

[ShaggyDoo]

The BBCS coil spring version is in stock and shipping! The 11, 13 and 15 inch travel version are on the shelf, ready for orders. Prices are the same as Leaf Spring valved BBCS'. Shoot us a PM, or give us a call for any questions.

[1972CJ5+1]

Ordered mine last night. The payment section was really easy to use. I wish there were more vendors using this system.

[PIG]

Ordered mine last night. The payment section was really easy to use. I wish there were more vendors using this system.

Glad to see you found our site easy to use. I guess that means we are doing our job. Expect to get a notification from UPS via email as your package leaves our facility on Monday.

[1972CJ5+1]

Exactly as you said, got the info a couple of minutes ago. Thanks and as always, pleasure doing business with you guys.

[fcfred]

pig testing the bbcs with some classic stump humpin

[fcfred]

pig ( as usual) falls down

seems like lazer eye surgery can't fix bad judgment

[fcfred]

master fabricator, (shop boss of the new Poly Performance Fabrication) and experienced Pig rescuer Goat1 steps in to get Piggy out of a mess

[ShaggyDoo]

All lengths and valving on the shelf and ready to ship!

[freds40]

Picked mine up this morning. Dropped a chunk of change there and walked out with all but 2 items on my list and they should be to me by the end of the week. I was impressed by the stock on hand these guys keep. Thanks again.

[sethzilla]

you name we got it!:D I'm getting ready to put a set of these on my big ass truck.

:evil: SETHZILLA!

[ShaggyDoo]

Pm's Sent

[Big_Ern]

I couldn't find a thread on the new V2 BBCS. Have they come out yet? and whats the difference between them and the originals?

Can these be used as a limiting strap as well as a compression bumpstop? (not for pre-running, just crawling and running the logging roads to the trails)

This would all be for a leaf sprung Toy.

Thanks!

[PIG]

I couldn't find a thread on the new V2 BBCS. Have they come out yet? and whats the difference between them and the originals?

Can these be used as a limiting strap as well as a compression bumpstop? (not for pre-running, just crawling and running the logging roads to the trails)

This would all be for a leaf sprung Toy.

Thanks!

Yes, there is an internal extesion bump stop in there that would help at low speed. If you are going high speed you need to run limiting straps...! Version 2.0 has the upgraded jounce bumper. That is the only difference.

[Big_Ern]

Thanks for the info. I'll be ordering a set to replace my 5125 bilsteins early in the new year.

I'll probably run a compression bumpstop just to ba safe for the high speed logging roads, but I'll never get air time so I shouldn't need any limiting straps, so long as slow extensions crawling are okay.

[ShaggyDoo]

On the shelf and ready to ship!

[ErikB]

BBCS's got a pic and honorable mention... :D

http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/reviews/marlinsprings

http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/reviews/marlinsprings/front.jpg

[tenfourtyeight]

What would shipping be on a pair of 10's to 92083?

Thanks.

[sethzilla]

i assume you meant 11" ones. PM sent

In stock and ready to ship out to your neck of the woods(or rocks!)

:evil: SETHZILLA!

[tenfourtyeight]

Damn, I get PM'd a phone #, call, and hang up after ordering, all within 30 min. You guys are on top of it.

Thanks Seth for the quote, Leah for taking the order so quick, and Dave for helping out with the valving.

Can't wait to get them.

Chris

[PIG]

Damn, I get PM'd a phone #, call, and hang up after ordering, all within 30 min. You guys are on top of it.

Thanks Seth for the quote, Leah for taking the order so quick, and Dave for helping out with the valving.

Can't wait to get them.

Chris

Got pics of thyem mounted yet. They should have been delivered Thursday.:)

[affende]

Got pics of thyem mounted yet. They should have been delivered Thursday.:)


quote for four 15s with coilspring valving shipped to 37857/24060....whichever zip is cheaper ;)

thanks

[tenfourtyeight]

Yes they did get here on Thursday, and I got them mounted yesterday. I'll get some shots of them clean, then plenty of action shots at the desert this weekend. These shocks are :grinpimp:.

Got pics of thyem mounted yet. They should have been delivered Thursday.:)

[sethzilla]

quote for four 15s with coilspring valving shipped to 37857/24060....whichever zip is cheaper ;)

thanks


PM Sent

[fastrexxx]

Just put my order in. Can't wait to test them out. :D
Should I be concerned with using a limiting strap with these, or is there some type of internal stop built in?
Edit: I found my own answer :p :

Quote:

I couldn't find a thread on the new V2 BBCS. Have they come out yet? and whats the difference between them and the originals?

Can these be used as a limiting strap as well as a compression bumpstop? (not for pre-running, just crawling and running the logging roads to the trails)

This would all be for a leaf sprung Toy.

Thanks!


Yes, there is an internal extesion bump stop in there that would help at low speed. If you are going high speed you need to run limiting straps...! Version 2.0 has the upgraded jounce bumper. That is the only difference.

[tenfourtyeight]

Passenger side hoop:
http://members.cox.net/tenfourtyeight/truck/Dec28^08.JPG
Ride height:
http://members.cox.net/tenfourtyeight/truck/Dec28^09.jpg
Clearance at the CV:
http://members.cox.net/tenfourtyeight/truck/Dec28^11.JPG
Driver side hoop:
http://members.cox.net/tenfourtyeight/truck/Dec28^12.JPG
So pretty:
http://members.cox.net/tenfourtyeight/truck/Jan02$17.JPG
Good veiw of the whole thing:
http://members.cox.net/tenfourtyeight/truck/Jan02$18.JPG
Such is the nature of the IFS beast; barely flexed:
http://members.cox.net/tenfourtyeight/truck/Jan02$23.JPG
Droop:
http://members.cox.net/tenfourtyeight/truck/Jan02$25.JPG

At full compression, the bumps on the shocks barely touch, and at full drop out, the shocks still have a good 2.5" of extension left. Perfect size.

These shocks work great with this suspension, surprisingly. I thought they might not be stiff enough, but they're perfect, even hauling ass over the woops.

[PIG]

At full compression, the bumps on the shocks barely touch, and at full drop out, the shocks still have a good 2.5" of extension left. Perfect size.

These shocks work great with this suspension, surprisingly. I thought they might not be stiff enough, but they're perfect, even hauling ass over the woops.


Glad to see they work out well for you.....:cool2:

[ShaggyDoo]

:cool2:

[2slo4u]

My rig is a zuk with a rocky road coil kit and toy axles using outboard shock mounts.

How do you think the 13s would dampen if they were installed on a coil suspensioned rig and mounted leaned forward 45 degrees?

[PIG]

My rig is a zuk with a rocky road coil kit and toy axles using outboard shock mounts.

How do you think the 13s would dampen if they were installed on a coil suspensioned rig and mounted leaned forward 45 degrees?

@ 45 degress you are really starting to effect the shocks work angle.... We really recomend nothing more than 15 degrees in any direction otherwise the dampening starts to be compromised. Please call for more info.

[MilTroy]

ttt for the love of shock.

[PIG]

ttt for the love of shock.

:beer:

[ShaggyDoo]

ttt

[wanabecruisen]

Can I get a quote on a pair of the v2 coil valved shocks in the 15" delivered to a business addy in 71635? Thanks - I think these will work great on my new rig!

[ShaggyDoo]

Check that box!

[ShaggyDoo]

:beer:

[ZPD]

price for two 13" coil valving to 95350 please.
Thanks

[TheBandit]

Maybe a dumb question, but what is the inside separation required for the mounting tabs? 1/2" hole I assume?

My current shocks look like 1-1/2" but not sure. Please PM or call me (I left a message late today). Thanks!

[PIG]

Maybe a dumb question, but what is the inside separation required for the mounting tabs? 1/2" hole I assume?

My current shocks look like 1-1/2" but not sure. Please PM or call me (I left a message late today). Thanks!

1/2" bolt 1.5" mounting width.

[Brandon]

price for 4 of the longest ones ya got for my leaf spring scout 80

thx

95826

EDIT my star just expired which means my inbox is full so can you email me at brandon@WhiteKnuckleMotorsports.net with the quote?

thx

[PIG]

price for 4 of the longest ones ya got for my leaf spring scout 80

thx

95826

EDIT my star just expired which means my inbox is full so can you email me at brandon@WhiteKnuckleMotorsports.net with the quote?

thx

Check your email

[JRover]

Any feedback yet on the coiler version?

[84rocktoy]

Shipped to Chico CA 95928

My Rear Taco Chromos are holding up to my 39's and my 4.3.:D
Thanks,
Fernando

[PIG]

Any feedback yet on the coiler version?

Everyone we have talked to has been quite impressed with their performance.

[PIG]

Shipped to Chico CA 95928

My Rear Taco Chromos are holding up to my 39's and my 4.3.:D
Thanks,
Fernando

Check your PM's

[JBM]

Price for 4 coil 15s shipped to 71742

[gpnjuice]

price 4 15s (leaves) to 98942 Please.

[Flatty]

Price for 4 shipped to 94122

Thanks
Dima

[ShaggyDoo]

Thanks for all the orders! All sizes and valvings on the shelf and ready to ship!