Flipper
01-20-2002, 02:27 PM
I am about to mount YJ springs on my zuk (also doing shackle reversal), but have a question about mounting the front springs.
On a stock zuk, the front and rear spring eyes are almost level. On the CSC kit, the front eye is way higher than the rear (tilted up). What affect does this have (other than causing the shackle to hang down)? Does this help or hurt brake-dive? What's best pointing up, pointing down, or flat?
FYI...stock rear zuk springs point down. ....I don't know how they are mounted on an actual Wrangler.
Also, has anyone ever tried replacing their shackles with slider boxes? (Dirt track racers use them) The spring eye moves front to back in a straight line as the spring flexes. My thoughts are that it might help keep the springs from turning s-shaped since it would force the front half of the spring to bend the same as the back half. It also looks like it would be less likely to get hung up on a rock and bend the spring.
Bill4rest
01-20-2002, 09:55 PM
I don't have the #'s off hand but I would not use the sliders if susp travel is a factor, I don't think they would let the spring flex during the cycle (droop and twisting).
As for my YJ S/R I mounted my front spring just lick the CSC kit I think it is 6 1/2" forward and an 1" or 1 1/4" down from the stock mount. I cut off the stock rear mount and made my own shackle hanger then used a 4" shackle. It is at about 18* angle now, but may alter it later.
The best advise is to look at other people and ask them. Don't get too carried away and make sure you have your pinion anlge and caster right and you should be fine.
yager
04-25-2002, 10:37 AM
WHILE SEARCHING I pulled up this thread.... Any luck on the sliders?
I got 2 on order and will be installing them on my S/R toy axle swap. Im trying to keep net lift down and this will help me loose ~2" of unneeded lift while allowing me to do a S/R
IMHO: As far as limiting travel....yes/no the stock toys are almost a negative arch and with the stock mounting on the toy frame can only push/pull about ~4" before the eye hits the frame. The slider box will at least do that much
So did ya do it yet? My parts will be in next week....
-yag
Flipper
04-26-2002, 06:59 PM
I haven't finished it yet. If I get my honey-do's done on Saturday, I might be able to put in some quality time on Sunday. I am making my own hy-steer steering arms now.
This simple "bolt in" toyota axle swap is getting out of hand! It should be cool when it is done though...if it ever gets done....I keep wanting to do one more thing while I am at it.....
scwafish
04-27-2002, 08:09 AM
Dirt track sliders are used to minimize spring deflection, to improve handling. I don't think this is what your going for...if you watch a shackle during wheeling it moves back and forth, but also side to side. The side to side is mostly from spring twist. If your going to do sliders, your going to lose a lot of flex unless you do something to release the tension of the twist. I would be pretty pimp to run sliders and then orbit eyes in the fixed end.
yager
04-28-2002, 06:22 AM
"It would be pretty pimp to run sliders and then orbit eyes in the fixed end."
Hmmm now thats an idea..... To be honest i havn't thought that far ahead...Like flipper said too many things to get side tracked on... Thats me i think ahead and now i have a new 2do list...So I tring to stay focuced so I can get the damn thing on its feet...Been on stands too long....
Ill file away that idea.... Thats definitly the perfect quick fix afterwards.. I dont have enough done to be worthy of a pic... But soon....
-yag
ROCKILLER
04-28-2002, 09:30 PM
i dont know if ou mounted the springs yet but I'd go with close to level. if you mount the front eye much higher than the rear the tire moves back instead of up as it flexes which is no good unless your axle is waaaayyy forward.
Rocky Road
04-29-2002, 01:05 PM
The bottom line is that you want your pinion angle the same after your lift installation as it was stock. If this means you have to shim your axle because of a funky mounting system, then so bit it.
Taking the time to shim is much better than trying to drive with screwed up castor.