: Help ID this axle...


trooper4life
07-01-2004, 06:00 PM
O k, Hers the deal I went and ran the bom # on that site that Matt posted but for some reason It does not match no axle opn that site. I know it is a 44 but would love to have alitle more info on it. The # I got off of the axle is 613683 5. Now if anyone knows of another place I can run please let me know. I have search yahoo to death.

on another note I did match up the other axle 603685 6 This is what it said about that one...JEEP Model 44 FRONT 1978 - 1979 J10, J20, HONCHO, CHEROKEE WIDE TRACK ---603685-6 STD 3.54

Thanks for the help guys,
Daniel

Independent4x
07-13-2004, 08:58 AM
well it should work..............maybe the # is incorrect????


really.....you can't just visually ID them by now :laughing:

trooper4life
07-13-2004, 10:01 AM
Yeah I know it is a 44. however I haven't got to ordering any parts for her yet. I thought I had better know what exact axle I have to order the part for. lol Does it even matter?
Thanks for the pump up and maybe you cou ld help on the rest of the story.


PS: I have checked the #'s sevearl times and it is the same right #. I just can't seem to get any info on it. You think that means I have a scout?


Thanks again,
Daniel

Independent4x
07-13-2004, 10:07 AM
post a pic of it and i'll see if i can help you visually id it

trooper4life
07-13-2004, 10:25 AM
I thought I had one on this computer But I don't. So I will take one this afternoon and post it then.
Thanks,
Daniel

trooper4life
07-14-2004, 09:56 AM
Here is the only picture I could find as of now Hope this helps. But I will try and get a better one soon. My computer at the house is all :barf: right now.

http://www.montypics.com/pic.php?url=/trooper4life/2004-06-08/1086742542_100_2430.jpg

Later,
Daniel

Independent4x
07-14-2004, 10:56 AM
not alot to go on there daniel ................. LOL

it is a d44

trooper4life
07-14-2004, 11:01 AM
I know.......lol
I will get you a better one this afternoon. I spent all last night trying to fix my home computer. With no luck I might add. :(

Later,
Daniel

RodeoRob
07-15-2004, 09:48 AM
if you're not going to be able to identify it via BOM, give us some specs. Exact wms to wms? small or large bearing spindle? flat top knuckles? knowing some details, i bet we can come pretty close to what it came out of.

-Rob

trooper4life
07-15-2004, 10:45 AM
Otay guys here are some pictures I took yesterday afternoon.
http://pics.montypics.com/trooper4life/2004-07-15/1089909099_axle_0716.jpg http://pics.montypics.com/trooper4life/2004-07-15/1089909182_axle_0717.jpg http://pics.montypics.com/trooper4life/2004-07-15/1089909267_axle_0718.jpg http://pics.montypics.com/trooper4life/2004-07-15/1089909342_axle_0719.jpg
And here is a picture of my vortech that will be going into this trooper.http://pics.montypics.com/trooper4life/2004-07-15/1089909416_axle_0720.jpg
I will get the wms tonight. No flat tops. Not sure about the bearing spindle? What is that? How do I tell if it is the large or small one.
Thanks guys,
Daniel

Independent4x
07-15-2004, 11:35 AM
ok axle is upside down in pics................but judging from the spring unger casting and the fin on the side of the diff..i say it is a 77-79 wagoneer front D44

i'm guessing there is a hole in the casting that the larger u-bolt on the pass side goes through.


this is a big bearing spindle front axle.


put on flat tops, gear, lock, and run it.

IsuzuCrawler
07-16-2004, 10:00 AM
Daniel, it looks like you've been on the ball, you're going to have your truck going before i finish mine :flipoff2: sorry i didn't get up with you the other weekend, all we did was sit around with cold ones.....

the progress looks good so far, can't wait to check it out.

psychobilly
07-18-2004, 02:17 AM
put on flat tops, gear, lock, and run it

Would the 77-79 not have the factory flat top knuckles?

trooper4life
07-18-2004, 12:45 PM
There is a hole in the casting for the u bolt. This axle does not have flat tops. Why wouldn't the bom # work? The # on this axle is in great shape. Easy to see.

I will get the wms today and post them.

Thanks,
Daniel

Independent4x
07-18-2004, 01:42 PM
Would the 77-79 not have the factory flat top knuckles?


no they would not....74-76 have flat tops, but also have small bearing spindles and a smaller center section casting.........can'y have the best of both unles "you" combine it

trooper4life
07-18-2004, 05:18 PM
The wms is 54 inch center to center.
So when I order my rebuild kit for this axle what should I ask for?


Thanks,
Daniel

psychobilly
07-18-2004, 08:38 PM
My 77 had the flat tops...musta been swapped out at one time or another. My bad

Independent4x
07-19-2004, 09:54 AM
The wms is 54 inch center to center.
So when I order my rebuild kit for this axle what should I ask for?


Thanks,
Daniel


where are you getting this measurement?......................with rotors on?


sounds way too narrow :confused:

trooper4life
07-19-2004, 10:02 AM
No I just measured it the way it is in the picture above. I turned each knuckle around till they were straight and then measured outside to outside. Where the bolts are sticking out of the knuckles.

Later,
Daniel

Independent4x
07-19-2004, 04:36 PM
ahhhhh....that's what i thought................that is def NOT the wheel mounting surface.

that axle should be like 62-63" ish total...wms-wms

IsuzuCrawler
07-20-2004, 04:12 PM
daniel, i'd use the wider one of the two cause i wasn't one of those about 3-4'' wider? these boxy troopers could use all the stability they can get. the axle should be a wide track grand cherokee D44 77-79 if you need that to get parts, although the width shouldn't matter for most parts unless you are buying shafts.

Eric

trooper4life
07-20-2004, 04:43 PM
cheak your pms on the wire