Yup. I saw one this weekend up in Grass Valley at the winter fun fest. One of the guys in the Far and Gone club was leaving the festivities and as he hit the pavement, bang his housing came into 2 pices.

The break was wierd , it was in the tube between the perch and the center section, and it was a perfect 90 degree break. It looked like it was cut with a chop saw. It was a full floating rr60. Made by suposedly the best in the buisness.

I don't have any pics but i am sure someone on the board does.

Ian-

That's amazing!!

What size tubing does dynatrak use??

I wonder if it was the 3.125 x.500 dom.


Craig

I wanna see carnage, bring on the pictures

Originally posted by CrazyCraig
That's amazing!!

What size tubing does dynatrak use??

I wonder if it was the 3.125 x.500 dom.


Craig

THats what size tubing was used

Originally posted by COMPLAINE
Yup. I saw one this weekend up in Grass Valley at the winter fun fest. One of the guys in the Far and Gone club was leaving the festivities and as he hit the pavement, bang his housing came into 2 pices.

The break was wierd , it was in the tube between the perch and the center section, and it was a perfect 90 degree break. It looked like it was cut with a chop saw. It was a full floating rr60. Made by suposedly the best in the buisness.

I don't have any pics but i am sure someone on the board does.

Ian-


huh


what color was it???

Adam,:confused: :confused:

It was the white one with the fourlink and two shackles with leaves. The frame horns were extended in th rear too. I saw it crack right in half on the ROAD!

it was knarly:eek:

SOunds Like the break was after the end of the tubing, and it was all casting that broke.

Did Dynatrack stop buying dana spicer castings at some point and then start having their own made????

The spring pearch is probably the sharpest inside radius on the whole casting. If that thing wasnt cooled properly or anealed, my guess is that would be the first place it would crack, and that it would crack before it got out of the foundry.

Pretty gnarly break man.

My guess is that the tube broke because of the welding process. Unless the axle let go and bound up soo tight the tube let go.

He said it was in the tube, between the perch and the housing. That sounds to me like the tube broke. The only way that tube broke is if they took a front rr60, and instead of replacing the entire short side tube, just butt welded an extension on. If that is the case, I would call that some crappy work.

Dynajunk has made their own centersections for a couple of years now. Was that Jeremy Taylors jeep?

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Just one question? Who welded the mounting brackets to the axle?:rasta:

New info. The axle tube broke were it was butt welded together. The axle was built by somebody in Rocklin. I built the frame and fabbed the four link.

I just want to say one thing!


GET THE FACTS STRIGHT LOSER!!!



You guys just want to make a problem for Dynatrac and you have poor information.


And remember if you take away the word weld from buttweld what do you get?


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Dynatrack has enough problems. They have top of the line product, but they are last in customer service.

Their is not a damn thing wrong with butt welding if it is done right. If you get good penatration then the tube will break before the weld its self does. So I think you need to get your facts strait.

Originally posted by gunracer1
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Agreed.

Now, NO and NEITHER have you.

Originally posted by ToyToddy
Their is not a damn thing wrong with butt welding if it is done right. If you get good penatration then the tube will break before the weld its self does. So I think you need to get your facts strait.

I agree. It is called a FULL-PEN weld. Meaning it has full penitration. When I splice tubes together I use a thin piece of tubing inside the axle tube for a "backup bar". Also bevel the ends to 30-45 degrees. A .500" tube should take about 3-4 passes to fill. Of course this info comes from a 6-G certified welder!!!!!

6-G certified welder :smokin:

Weres da pics man!! :D

Wow that sucks.

CJ

Originally posted by Cutter
:smokin:


many people can back him on this!!

Adam,

Originally posted by KYODER


a 6-G certified welder!!!!!


6-G, we all did that cert in high school in vo-tech. open root-6010, 7018 cover passes... That qual is nice, but don't think that someone who has it is the shit. Not saying that he is a shitty welder, just don't let someones paper work do the talking for them. Actions speak louder than a piece of paper with a qual on it. I have witnessed many a shitty welder pass tough cert tests, but you would not want them welding on your steamline or axle.

Just my perpective!:)

My complaint is not the fact that an axle tube was buttwelded, but the fact that for the people that can't afford Dynatrac stuff just want to find fault in the company before they get the facts. People on this board just want to find anything that they can to complain about. This board used to be cool, because there was good posts on how to build or where to go wheeling. Now the board has became a bitch board, all people want to do is complain. Just like the start of this post, somebody was just dying to find somthing wrong with the Dynatrac products. I will admit I have a Rev 60 from Dynatrac in my TJ. It took me forever to get it, but when I got it it was a work of art. Even the box that it came shipped in was super trick. I would be the first to say it was a bunch of money, but it was perfect.

P.S. I do weld myself and I know that buttwelding works, if you know what you are doing.:flipoff2:

A properly made weld is as good as or better than the base material. End of story!:)

Amen;)

Originally posted by KYODER
New info . The axle was built by somebody in Rocklin not new info just SOP :flipoff2: :D :D :smokin:

Choke speaks only the facts!:D
weldpro

Originally posted by CHOKEvenom
A properly made weld is as good as or better than the base material. End of story!:)

But is it better than pressed in and plug welded?

Thats how mine are built.

Dynatrac isn't a perfect company but most others arn't either,I won't comment on there Quality(few would argue that), and the customer service wasn't bad for me,they built the axels with a small down payment(not paid in full),and came 2 weeks late.

When I ordered mine they didn't have 35 spline stub shafts in stock so they built it w\ 30 sp and sent the 35's with hubs at no extra charge,not bad service there.

just thought I would tell you my real world dealings with them,i'm totaly happy w\ them.

Now on the cost of them ,thats another story and open for debate:D

I was affraid to tell anyone that I had Dynatrac axels cause of being bashed on POR so I tell people I have Scout 44's :flipoff2:

I guess around here your inferior if you buy a axel for more than 50.00.

Rob

[QUOTE]Originally posted by M/C MAN
[B]My complaint is not the fact that................. Now the board has became a bitch board, all people want to do is complain.

BABAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA.....BAAHAHAHAHAHAA:flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :D


WTF?????? :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer:

[QUOTE]Originally posted by ToyToddy
[B]Their is not a damn thing wrong with butt welding if it is done right.


ASS welding. That's the best. Certified welders? AWS certified? Ain't worth shit. Not saying that all suck (yeah i am) but refer to parenthesis. Best welding i've seen is done by people that arn't. All cert. welding i've seen licks ball bag.

Originally posted by Jettech


But is it better than pressed in and plug welded?
Rob

Your talking joint design. I'm talking for a weld in general, under ideal conditions, made by a qualified person.

Is a press fit with plug welds stronger than a butt weld with a backing ring? I would say it all depends on the demands put on the joint. They are two totaly different joint desings on different parts of the axle. Each joint design has it's place.:)

someone needs to edit the title of this thread or delete it.
I am no fan of dynacrack but there is no reason to disparage them when an axle that they have never seen made by Joe Nobody breaks

Yo fellas.

The point was not that dynatrac is crap or that but welding is unaceptable. The point was that i saw a HOUSING break, and i was told it was a dynatrac axle. Since it turned out to be just a dynatrac center cection, i can now see the fault was due to a bad weld end of story.

We have all seen shafts beak, and on a rare ocasion a front housing crack from someone jumping real hard. But this one split right in half, and it was a crazy sight and i thought i would share it with you guys.

I also said that i have NO picrures and was hoping that someone who did would read this and post them.

I hope this cleares things up.

Ian-

we still have no pics!!!!!