I pulled my original 3spd/TC last night and it's about half the size of the new sm465/TC replacement. :eek:

In order to retain the original 3spd BH, it looks like I only need to reduce the OD of the sm465 front bearing retainer?

Is this right?

manny 72fj40


I think I have everything else, here's my list:

TO bearing sleeve for Toyota bearing (classic cruisers)
Special PilotB for 1F crank-TO-sm465 (classic cruisers)
sm465/classic Adapter plate/split case from Ed (Vortec_Cruiser)
3spd cruiser BH (original)
3spd cruiser PPlate (Sierra Toyota - John Hocker)
rear Xmember on order (thanks Jeremiah - Proffitt's)
need some replacement DShafts, as the new TC is a split-type w/different bolt pattern from earlier 3spd unit.
11" clutch disc from my budy Georg (orange45)

Yes you need to replace the bearing retainer.Advance Adapters sells the retainer.Part number is 712519.Hope that helps.
Simon

Simon,
Do you know If I can just reduce the OD on the stock unit?

Sorry I didn't swing by when I was down in LA (alta loma), It would have been nice to meet you and checkout our shop.

next time,
manny 72fj40

uh your putting a splitcase behind a SM465? I thought all 465's were 10 spline,.. You changing to a custom output shaft that's 19spline to go to a split case? or are you confused and calling a tcase a split case when it is not a real split case? Split cases came in later 40's, all fj60's and fj62's.. were all 19spline inputs. 3spd and 4spd cases can be adapted to 465's but not a true split case unless you put in a spudshaft style adapter not a plate style.

The tranny/adapter/transfer-case came from Vortec_Cruiser:

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=261068

The adapter is a plate-type...does a 1977 40 have a split case?

manny 72fj40

No they do not come with a split case.

re-read vortecs post . He put in a NV4500 and a split case , and took out the 465 ans 3 spd case . you are gettin a 3 spd case. cool cause it may be lower geared than the one that was in there.

Thanks for clarifying.

How about my Q on reducing the 465 FRT bearing retainer OD size?

Looking forward to better gearing and no more crazy 3spd wine,
manny 72fj40

yes , your idea is correct and use allen head bolts. if you check Morgan Fletchers website he has build pics of when he and Mudrack did his 465 , 208 doubler , stock t-case build up. and he has a very , very good pic of the finished piece cut down and installed on front of tranny with allen head bolts.

tranny is almost in...may be tomorrow. :(
manny 72fj40

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