Ok, anyone out there know someplace that is able to produce alloy or preferably chrome moly axle shafts for a rockwell 2.5 ton..Primarliy interested in for a rockwell rear.Spoke with moser and they said they couldn't do it..If you know of a place please post name, number and or web site...By the way anyone have Dutchman's number? Thanx.:D

I think Jack, at CTM Racing, is already building these.

Andy

CTM could probably help you out, and maybe Avalanche Eng...

I was hoping moser could do it. Why couldn't moser do it?

Here is what I was planning on doing...in the non-steering rear, I think a double splined axle shaft would be much easier for someone to make than the flanged version. The front driveflanges will work fine in the rear, so if you got a shaft made that was double splined, you could just use the driveflange from the front and be fine.

I'm mainly concerned with getting front axle shafts made, I'm pretty sure I'm going to take my regular rear back and get a steering version so my driveshaft is not offset....

Did you have a problem with vibes with the regular rear?

Please let me know what you find out.

CJ

last i talked to ctm he was so busy with the u jionts he had no time for axle resplining or customs, that may have changed though. might wanna check out www.wagonermachine.com they have been making alot of custom stuff. let us know what yah find out.

I don't know much about rockwells but I think they use bigger ujoints than a 60 and I think that they have smaller or at least weaker shafts. I also think that avalanche used 60 shafts in a rockwell. I am not sure about any of these statements but assuming they are true what I would try to do is bore out the rockwell yokes and broach them for some big spline that you can find a broach for, and then make axle shafts with the spline for the yoke on one end and the spline for the rockwell diff on the other end. If you wanted to find out the yoke material you could even heat treat the yokes. This is how Camos frontend is being built and how Curry now builds the 9" fronts with 60 outers.

Originally posted by Gordon
I don't know much about rockwells but I think they use bigger ujoints than a 60 and I think that they have smaller or at least weaker shafts

They have 1 9/16" shafts.

The splines aren't necessarily a weak part, it is just a different way of doing things. Since they are 16 course splines...the spline diameter is greater than the shaft diameter so the shaft will still break before the splines.

CJ

Originally posted by Lance
CTM could probably help you out, and maybe Avalanche Eng... noooooooooooo:eek: :eek: :eek:

CJ, where'd you get your rockwells?? How much did you pay for them if you don't mind me asking??

I got mine from a military surplus place in Charleston, WV. It was 650 miles roundtrip to get them...long day. I paid under $1500 for the pair, email if you want more info.

CJ

Hey do you guys think Sandy Cone or Mark Williams could handle these? I think it would be the shit if you could get some 40+ splined, 2" dia. shafts that were 4340 thru hardened and gundrilled! Just have them make some spools for them too. Now that would be :nuke: proof! only very expensive.

Ok I have talked to Jack since I made the intial post..he said that he does not make these currently as someone above suggested in a post. However, he liked the idea and said he could do it for me..I talked with Dutchman and they said they could do it as well.However, Dutchman was talking $1500 a pair:eek: with a flange and 600 a pair for a double splined shaft made of an "alloy" material(thats is all they would say)..jack's on the otherhand were roughly 600 a pair(double splined) ,but, made from 300M and .....gundrilled:D ....think the CTM way is the "way" considering the quality of the work Jack does.Hope this helps anyone else that was interested..

[QUOTE]Originally posted by CJ Lagos
[B]I was hoping moser could do it. Why couldn't moser do it?

Moser said they couldn't do it because the axleshaft was to "big"(1 5/8 at splines)...

Does anyone have a lead for custom front axle shafts? That's what I'm really interested in...

Since Daniel put his prices...I paid $1200 for my steering front, non steering rear.

CJ

I paid 450 :D for a reconditioned(like new status) front.and 350 for a reconditioned rear:D ..all bearing and seals were new, all brake components including drums,shoes,and all associated hardware were new as in never used...backing plates still had the primer on them..All zerk fittings still had the little plastic caps to keep crud out..didn't think it was to bad of a deal..:smokin:

Originally posted by CJ Lagos
Does anyone have a lead for custom front axle shafts? That's what I'm really interested in...

Since Daniel put his prices...I paid $1200 for my steering front, non steering rear.

CJ

Tell me what you want exactly...(length/size/spline) and I might be able to do it. I "frequent" a shop that does this "kind" of work for themselves. I'll see what can be done. They are building a new 'truck" with some rockwell 106's with planetary ends with narrowed customized housings!! :eek: I just got 2 rockwell fronts too so I'm looking at "BEFFING" them up to 1000HP+ status:D :beer:

hey gordon.......you said something about the rockwell having smaller shafts?

either do a search for rockerll ujoints or just take a look at this thread:

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=18926&highlight=rockwell+joint

if a rockwell shaft is weaker than a 60 then I'd better go and drop the extra cash just to pick up a matching 60 front and 14 bolt rear...then drop more cash to re-gear.......then drop more cash (comparatively) for a detroit......you see what I'm getting at.

MKbruin I see what you are getting at, but just because it is more expensive doesn't mean it's stronger. Like I said I don't know a lot about rockwells, but when I was in College we had tractor pulls each year at open house and one year I walked out into the pits the day before and talked to one of the teams. I saw thier collection of twisted rockwell shafts, and they said that the shafts were the weak link on the rockwells at least in that application. Judging by how much twisting there was in the failed shafts I would guess that they were not heat treated at all. So based on my extremely limited knowledge of rockwells I am guessing that the axle shafts are a typical weak link. Also from the post you refered to It is obvious that the rockwell ujoint is way bigger than the 60 ujoint. I can't really tell from the picture how the rockwell inner shaft compares to a 60 inner shaft since there isn't a 60 inner in the pic only a smaller 60 outer. On a 60 I know that the weak link is the outer 30 spline shaft, and supposedly after you upgrade to 35 spline outers it is the u joint. So my point was on a rockwell you probably don't have to worry about the yoke area since it is big. so you could bore and broach the stock yokes and put in a strong double splined shaft. I still think that would be a good way to go.