: I need some advice


Fawk Awph
08-16-2004, 09:04 PM
i have the front axles under my scout, but when i redid the front of the frame the frame rails became about 1/4" off from eachother. not knowing this i drilled my holes for my shackles only to find out that one shackle, the one i measured for sits almost perfect at about 35* and the other is a not the same angle. the problem is that i cant redrill to fix this because the new hold would be inside the hole that is there. you can see this in the first pic. i am using Bronco rear springs in the front and i think it will sit just about right whne i put the motor and everything else in. my only solution i can think of is to cut out the holes i have drilled and then weld some plate over that area and redrill. the problem with this is that i would need special bent shackles because the top would sit at about 4" and the bottom would need to be at 3". what do you all suggest?

also, the front hangers will be boxed in and the shackles will be reenforced in the middle........making an 'H' of you will.

the tires on there right now sit at about 33" i will be putting 36" on it in the end. i may have to take a leaf out to get the hight and flex i want, but ill determine that later when i get the rear finished.

http://img47.exs.cx/img47/8951/ScoutLeft1.jpg

http://img47.exs.cx/img47/9318/ScoutUnder.jpg

Callen

Binder
08-16-2004, 09:44 PM
Simple fix. Drill new holes higher up in the frame. That's where they should have been to begin with. You need to chase those holes too.
Or you could just leave it. If it's a wheeler that frame is going to get bent anyways and that quarter inch will not matter much. :)

Fawk Awph
08-16-2004, 10:05 PM
cool, thanks, ill consider both.

Callen

Buckshot33
08-16-2004, 10:05 PM
How about cutting for new shackle plates about an an inch or so longer than those and raising the holes on the frame an inch or so but in the proper place? Follow the plane of the shackle that you like and make longer shackles, moving the bolts up and over to match the good shackle. this will leave enough meat in the frame for new holes and you can patch the onld ones.


Here I drew it out.

First pic is of how you have it now, the two frame holes are off from each other. Pic which ever hole and shackle angle you like best. Best shackle angle is denoted by red line.
http://www.afxracing.net/buckshot33/frame%20wrong.JPG

Keep the new holes centered on the red line. Move them an inch or so up and over from the old holes. This will retain your ideal shackle angle and as long as you make longer shackle plates it wont change your hight any.
The blue hole is the old hole. after the new hole is drilled just match the other side the same but move it the 1/4 inch or so that it needs over.
http://www.afxracing.net/buckshot33/frame%20fixed1.JPG

How does that work out? Just an Idea.

Since the new holes are farther up from the integral part of the frame it will wanna pull the sides in. You'll want to spud or sleeve the holes.

Buckshot33
08-16-2004, 10:07 PM
Simple fix. Drill new holes higher up in the frame. That's where they should have been to begin with. You need to chase those holes too.
Or you could just leave it. If it's a wheeler that frame is going to get bent anyways and that quarter inch will not matter much. :)


I'd a beat ya too it but I drew pictures... :flipoff2:


edit:: I just realized I drew the shackles backwards but you get the idea.
:smokin:

Rockabilly
08-16-2004, 11:38 PM
or you could just weld some hangers under the frame...

Klasick68
08-17-2004, 06:59 PM
With that much shackle angle and no motor or trans I would think maybe you want to set the holes further back? maybe not. HTH

Fawk Awph
08-17-2004, 11:31 PM
With that much shackle angle and no motor or trans I would think maybe you want to set the holes further back? maybe not. HTH


good thought. i was trying to figure how much they might compress, but i dont know the rate on them. i probably have them too much angled right now. i think im going to leave it this way until the drivetrain is installed, then im going to cut the sides of the frame where the current holes are and weld in some 1/4" plates the are pre drilled to fit the size sleeve im going to use in the end.

Callen