As I look towards my garage and driveway I see a 1988 Range Rover and a 1964 SIIA each sitting respectively in their own places. In 6 weeks time, just prior to MAR, can both of these vehicles occupy one parking space? (A short amount of) Time will tell. Hedge your bets people, this is going to be a close one.

I will send you some camp pictures to help.

JP

I'd think you could do it right quick with one of those nifty vertical parking space thingies. :flipoff2:

Of course, I have lots of room to talk as I've been trying to do the same thing for two years.

Pendy or others that may know--

When putting a Series body on a RRC frame, can the body be set far enough back on the frame to prohibit much, if any firewall modification due to the larger engine and bellhousing?

can't do it :flipoff2:

Six weeks? I'd say it could be done, if you don't have a nagging wife, kids or a job.

only have one of those three ;)

between work and school i am occupied from 7am to 7pm monday through friday, but weekends are free from nagging wife/kids

getting ready to go home now!

There's a similar one up on Ebay right now http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2486998789&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT

Maybe doable but I think it would take more that just the weekends.

It can be done. If you have the LRW rolling thunder series of articles that should help.

Are you shortening it to 88in or going 100in?

Bulkhead modifications are a tempest in a tea pot.

No biggy at all.

I just pulled a RRC body off this morning and snapped some pics. I agree you will still have to cut on the firewall. But with everything apart how hard can it be? Are you done yet.

Jim Pendleton

i'm leaving it at 100", i'm going to cut the frame off just past the rear spring perches and fab a new rear crossmember and rear framerails out of tube most likely, to keep things simple. i will be making all the body outriggers from 2x3 .188 wall tubing that i have laying around, will also make sliders out of this most likely.

This might help.

I could have that body mounted in 1/2 a day easy - done it a few times now.

Do you want a cut off list of the RHS to mount it this way. http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=93353&highlight=body+mount

If you leave the engine in the stock location it wont come anywhere near the firewall. The problem with this is that the motor will be sitting to far forward in the engine bay to fit a radiator in front of it. Even if you remote mount the rad the motor still wont fit behind the stock series grill. So if you run the motor in stock rangie location and remote mount the radiator you will have to move the grill and bonnet forward (and add some sheet to the back of the bonnet which I never did). If you move the motor back about 3inches and run thermo fans etc then you may just fit the radiator in front of the motor if you move the grill right to the front of the guards (like current defender style). If you move the motor way back (like about 12in) then you will be able to fit the radiator in front of it with the grill in stock location. In all these options you wont have to modify the fire wall at all although you will have to open up the transmission tunnel a bit no mater which way you do it.

Sam

Heres a cool thought - the rig that I linked to above is still going very strong. It looks alot different now but most of it is still there except for the rear axle (now cruza 60 series instead of d44 and the body which is now all tube instead of series 2a) Heres a link to a vid taken of a comp hear a few weeks ago when Rod (current owner) rolled it.

http://www.4wdlinks.com.au/albums/album203/aaa.wmv

Sorry for the hijack :p


Sam

Bush-- you need to post more detailed pics, that looks like some fairly novel thinking for the rear suspension!

also Sam-- do you have any measurements you could give me for reference points of where you mounted the firewall in relation to the chassis. I could gather a fairly good idea from the pics but something more precise to start from would be great.

another thing, do you have any detailed pics of how you mounted the radiator when you were running the Rover V8?

You should be able to work it out very closely from the pics. You can see the front outrigger, the removable crossmember and the firewall mount. I actually mounted the body totally centred about the wheelbase so in the end I had the same amont of tyre sticking out the front as what i had out the back.

When I ran that setup the radiator was mounted horizontlly underneith the bonnet but I wouldnt do this on a street driven rig. I think you really should move the motor back and mount the rad in front of the motor (like I did on the mogrover). Its fairly easy to move the motor back and it will make it a much better rig as well.

Ill measure the 2x3in box lengths and then you just weld them on the chassis then you sit the body on top of the sliders sections and space it up about 5mm and then you just make up all the tags to pick up on the mounts. If you make the sliders longer in each direction then you can also sit the body on top of them and if you need to you can move the body back and forth to suit where tou put the motor.

Another think. When I said you can move it back 3in an mount the rad in front well to do this you will have to mount the lights in the guards - I wanted the lights in the grill so I didnt go this way. The lights take up a fair bit of room. Better to just move the motor all the way back - you will have oil filter crearance issues but you can run a very small oil filter thats only about 2in long and you woul be lucky to hit that (this is what we run in the buggies to tidy up the front engine clearance issues)

That rig that bush posted - there is a massive thread on it on outerlimits. It was in one of the mags here. Its got extra tailshafts welded to the diff housings to force the articulation to be equal and opposite on the axles which is why it only has the centre spring on the rear axle - although I think it now has very soft outboard springs as well.

Sam

As promised, But Strange Rover seems to be more helpful.

Dig the low rider with the black hole wheels.

Bush-- you need to post more detailed pics, that looks like some fairly novel thinking for the rear suspension!

As Sam said, that pic was posted here http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_M...p=281856#281856 with more information and pics.

Dig the low rider with the black hole wheels.


Hey, you've got a Snaab in your front yard, what year and turbo? I need parts for my Volksaab.

Hey, you've got a Snaab in your front yard, what year and turbo? I need parts for my Volksaab.

Hell I got 12 parts cars what do you need?

back on topic.....


no adam you wont make it in six weeks puss... buhahahahaha



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find an eaton biotch.

Just don't fool yourself that you have it done if the body is mounted. It is the last 25% that will kill you. (Electrical?)

I take it you have no rust (rust was put on earth by satan to torture us :evil: ), body , chassis, issues that need to be addressed before mounting the other body?

Also do you plan on making mods (lifts, axles, trans, etc) as you transfer this above and beyond JUST mods related to the transfer of the body?

Where are pics, need more PICS of progress??...

The RR chassis is mint condition, no rust at all. The series firewall is mint too, but i may even end up using a brand new Defender firewall that I have in my basement, to allow me to mount the engine further back.

the drivetrain is all in good condition and running, with the exception of a broken ring gear in the front axle. otherwise everything is build and upgraded with HD shafts, lockers, suspension components, etc.

the hard(est) part of the wiring is going to be the EFI, but I may be persuaded to dump it for a carb based on time and KISS constraints.

As Sam said, that pic was posted here http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_M...p=281856#281856 with more information and pics.

link doesn't work but..... holy drive shafts batman!

Great project, glad you are doing it... 6 weeks though? Why not? :)

I know I mentioned this sort of thing to you a while back, what pushed you over the edge and made you decide to go ahead with it/

-Dave

a combination of the floor in the range rover rusting to pieces, i got fed up with the huge body and all the glass (seemed like i was wasting a piece of glass every trip out) and the fact that the series needed a new frame anyways.

right now it will be put together with the 3.5L, stock ZF and stock LT230. but i have a 3.9L, core ZF, and 1.66 LT230 sitting on the floor waiting to be rebuilt/upgraded and be put it maybe over the winter or next summer.

a combination of the floor in the range rover rusting to pieces, i got fed up with the huge body and all the glass (seemed like i was wasting a piece of glass every trip out) and the fact that the series needed a new frame anyways.

right now it will be put together with the 3.5L, stock ZF and stock LT230. but i have a 3.9L, core ZF, and 1.66 LT230 sitting on the floor waiting to be rebuilt/upgraded and be put it maybe over the winter or next summer.


They do it on monster garage DAMMIT and you have 6 weeks!!!! :D

link doesn't work but..... holy drive shafts batman!

Sorry to hijack adam's thread, try this http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modules/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=22705

That site has a problem at the moment and the pics don't show - give them a day or 2 to fix it.

Good luck with the project Adam.

Its on.

pendy thats a D90 frame you are cheating . . .

German rock buggy

oh thats ghetto whats with the exhaust. . . going to test drive the new 911 tomorrow :)

oh thats ghetto whats with the exhaust. . . going to test drive the new 911 tomorrow :)

Supertrap. Might have to keep it for the mutilation.

C'mon 9V what do you got to show us?

JP

Supertrap. Might have to keep it for the mutilation.

C'mon 9V what do you got to show us?

JP

I think Adam is about 1/3 there. Probably too busy to take pics.

Evilfij need new 2005 911--it is more big person friendly, alcantara headling, 03 RR like screen--must have--had it up to 100 in a 25mph--sales lady did not even bat an eyelid :flipoff2: :evil: :flipoff2:

Back to rover world--come on Adam, at least I have an excuse for not doing much recently.

German rock buggy

Nice porsche (except for the exhaust). Heaps of them over here and they are all dirt cheap. The Germans prefer the 911 to any other model.

Funnily enough, on a recent journey on the German Autobahn (1500km / 930mile round trip) the car that passed me going the fastest was a corvette. I was doing 160 (100mi), he must have been going at least 250 (155).

German rock buggy

That exhaust must make it go "real fast".. :flipoff2:

is that a 1986 928s? Those 32v engines like to breath at the higher RPM.

how many miles on that dog? what mods?

That exhaust must make it go "real fast".. :flipoff2:

is that a 1986 928s? Those 32v engines like to breath at the higher RPM.

how many miles on that dog? what mods?


You twit. Supertrapp's are great. Tuneable. i.e. remove discs and such, or do you just like spitting out useless drivel?

You twit. Supertrapp's are great.

:laughing:

Yeah - the older white mans version of a fart can...

928s are fun to work on :shaking: Seems like everything is shoe horned into it.

You twit. Supertrapp's are great. Tuneable. i.e. remove discs and such, or do you just like spitting out useless drivel?

and you have a ghetto butt trumpet hanging out the back of your car.

that is a nice way of supertrapp selling you a one size fits all product. the removing of the discs is not some "special 928 go fast system". It is so it can be a one size fits all product.

Like PT Barnum says.. a sucker born every minute.

and you have a ghetto butt trumpet hanging out the back of your car.

that is a nice way of supertrapp selling you a one size fits all product. the removing of the discs is not some "special 928 go fast system". It is so it can be a one size fits all product.

Like PT Barnum says.. a sucker born every minute.

My GOD! YOU are a fawking idiot!
Supertrapp mufflers and exhaust systems have been around probably as long or longer than you have been on this earth. do some research before you spew drivel!

I've been using variously tuned supertrapps on motorcycles for a couple decades. I've seen many race-bikes and cars use them as long as I can recall, .....and by serious racers, not idiots that shop at pep-boyz. when you use a dyno to play around with the tuning, there is no farting around, it's REAL!

Paul

Hmmm, had SuperTrapps on the Ducati. Remember, you ADD diffuser discs to reduce pressure, and yes, they do work and don't need to be repacked.

I've been using variously tuned supertrapps on motorcycles for a couple decades.

Sure - on bikes. I used to run them on all my 4-stroke MX bikes.

But on a 928 ?? Gimme a break... :barf:

:grinpimp: :rainbow: :flipoff2:

Sure - on bikes. I used to run them on all my 4-stroke MX bikes.

But on a 928 ?? Gimme a break... :barf:

:grinpimp: :rainbow: :flipoff2:

well...last time I was at Laguna Seca at teh Shelby club meet, I can recall at least hald a dozen cobras with supertrapps on them.
now don't tell me that these rich-ass week-end racers buy the cheap shit! I recall them talking about tens of thousands spend here and there last year etc...
I aggree it looks wierd on a 928 on the street, but so what! if it is set up right instead as just a "tip" it'll both work well and sound great too! love that porsche growl when not too much back pressure!

anyway...

Paul

Hmmm, had SuperTrapps on the Ducati. Remember, you ADD diffuser discs to reduce pressure, and yes, they do work and don't need to be repacked.

ah! the Ducati! reminds me I need to go pay storage fee today, and go give RBBRDUC a pat before I go yet another month not riding...gotta rebuild that bottom end some day...when rover projestx slow down..yeah right..
I tripped over those saddlebags teh other day looking through boxes for rover parts! :D You still w/o a bike?

technically you can do as you say, buuuuut there is supposed to be a glass-pack that you rebuild in "most" 'trapps....but many people just don't repack it...or those not in the know, they really have done a lot sith thyeir systems including bavvles, and different tips for different applications..

Paul (My Duc has Staintune reverse megaphone on it, but that's another story...somewhere there is a streetracer with my last staintune on it...big black guy..grrr! now that would look stupider than a supetrapp on a car..)

928s are fun to work on :shaking: Seems like everything is shoe horned into it.

Nothing a two inch bodylift can not fix.

The exhaust really does have a stock car roar to it. I think she can turn 40's, but I may have to upgrade the 10 spline axles on the RRC running gear.

JP

Aha!, its that paul :)

Nope, no bike here anymore.....Pendy's got my latest "toy"

Yeah, I know, I'm a genius, sooper-genius :)

KAA

Aha!, its that paul :)

Nope, no bike here anymore.....Pendy's got my latest "toy"

Yeah, I know, I'm a genius, sooper-genius :)

KAA

"that Paul"
funny how you word it! :D yes...it's me..

as in u gave(sold/traded...) to Jim?
or he's working on it for u?

the 928? or?? inquiring minds ya know!

Paul(off to storage to empty the disco as I think will do teh Dusey EREsheim trail this weekend.....yes, really the LB will finally get to go off road again)

Project 109 is at Jimmy's.....I'll let him fill you in on whatever details he feels he can divulge publicly :)

KAA

LR guy here in town actually won the 749S (?) from the movie "Blade" contest last year. Took Ducati NA over a year to get it delivered to him!

Keiths project. With inspiration and help from BCB.

Keiths project. With inspiration and help from BCB.

that should have held it.

This guy started the german rock buggy project. In an answer to his G-wagon/Land Rover conflict.

are there any progress pics to bring this hijack back on track?

Project never got on the road with much gusto... Series is torn apart but my efforts have gone towards fixing the Range Rover for MAR rather than completely building a new vehicle for it.

Project never got on the road with much gusto... Series is torn apart but my efforts have gone towards fixing the Range Rover for MAR rather than completely building a new vehicle for it.

Hurry and get my junk off before ya decide to keep it :D

Hurry and get my junk off before ya decide to keep it :D
RJ, that just doesn't sound right.

ya ya ya, hey i told you you can have all the stuff the 1st week of october, you will probably even get a few hundred pounds of mud for free with them! :flipoff2:

oooh hey...I ...uh, well I ahh meant...fergetit :D