KIOTI DK55 tractor, what do you think?

[heavytlc]

I am buying a new tractor. I have a hard time passing up the 0.0% for 36months. I am looking at a 2004 KIOTI DK55, with loader. I only have to put down $3000, they will go up to 20k for 36months. Total is 23K. I am buying a little more tractor than I need, but I have never bought equipment, and wished I had bought the smaller model.The kioti is a few thousand less than the kabota model at the same size. I was wondering if anyone had any input. Everyone I know has a JD or kabota.
I have 19 acres total, about 9 in pasture, the balance is wooded. I look forward to wheeling the new tractor, I just have to resist rolling it, I think it would hurt more than the buggy.

[haystax]

I would go with Kubota over Kioti, they may be okay but I would trust a Kubota more. JD is probably over priced but if you need service, they are the best. Check out the New Holland small tractors, pretty good little tractors for the money, New Holland credit is usually better than JD credit.

How many hp are you looking at? 23K buys a good used tractor these days, Case Maxxum series are really good tractors, we have a couple in the 80-110 hp range, probably a little big for 19 acres but i'd rather have a used big tractor than a small new tractor. Just a thought.

[GTOffroader]

I would go with Kubota over Kioti, they may be okay but I would trust a Kubota more. JD is probably over priced but if you need service, they are the best. Check out the New Holland small tractors, pretty good little tractors for the money, New Holland credit is usually better than JD credit.

How many hp are you looking at? 23K buys a good used tractor these days, Case Maxxum series are really good tractors, we have a couple in the 80-110 hp range, probably a little big for 19 acres but i'd rather have a used big tractor than a small new tractor. Just a thought.


80hp (diesel I assume) is a hell of a tractor for 9 acres of pasture and some woods, you could probably get by with something like a 50hp model.

What do you plan on doing with said tractor? Aother vote for JD tractors, solid stuff and normally the dealers/service are great people. New Holland also makes good stuff.

[heavytlc]

I just went to the Kubota dealer. I am not sure they knew what to think, I am a large guy with lots of tattoos. I am a different kind of redneck then they are use to. After a few minutes they treated me very well. I looked at the 3130, with a loader. I will use every bit of HP the machine has. I like the fit and finish alot better. I will not be running a bailer, I only have about 10 good acres of pasture, and I would be money ahead to have it baled. I will be using the tractor for small scale clearing,(we started grading in march, but the weather has not helped)maintaing roadways(2000ftx20wide)bush hogging, digging 6000ft of fence, and general small farm use.
I know ther are some great values in the used market, but 0%apr would force me to buy new. I need all the cash I have to build the 6000sqft shop, because I am doing it out of pocket, and my pockets are not thaaaaat deep.
I do not think I really need much more tractor than the 3130, so I am going to do some research tonight. I will not be buying until Monday, because of UROC east this weekend. I guess it is like anything I do, if big is good bigger is better. I am trying to be practical, and just cause I can buy bigger, I do not think it is warrented in this case.

[Toyota_Jim]

ive got 4 john deere tractors.
55, 65, 75 and 95 horse tractors.

I use the 65 horse for damn near everything i do. rarely need the bigger one.


id go with a kubota if i wanted a loader tractor

[haystax]

80hp (diesel I assume) is a hell of a tractor for 9 acres of pasture and some woods, you could probably get by with something like a 50hp model.


You can never have too big of a tractor. :D

I wish we had bigger tractors, we farm 2500 acres and the biggest tractor on the place is 165 hp. But the good thing about hay is not having to replant every year so there isn't that much actual farming to do. Rotating a 125 acre circle right now, MX170 Case w/ 10' Rototiller going 0.8 mph, only 0.96 acres per hour. Getting to read some good books though, Bourne series by Ludlum.

Have fun with your new toy!

[heavytlc]

I would like to say I was doing something productive with a new tractor, but I will only be using it as a tool to get work done faster on my new land. If I could get a Scotchman iron worker, and a new Miller trailblazer 350 at 0%,I would. The girlfriend is the cause of the land/horses. I would have bought the same land, but I would have not done all of the improvments. The shop, and a nice house would have been the end of it. It works out though, I trained and hunted bird dogs as a teenager, and now I have a great place to do that. I sold my race truck and goosenck Featherlight trailer last year. I started 4wheeling because the hunting and fishing was better at the places I could go with my rig. The hunting and fishing, turned into trailriding, then to hardcore wheeling, and in 1999 into compition rockcrawling. I had a lot of fun "racing", but nothing but cool pictures, and good friends to show for it. I look forward to taking a little trip back in time, like the mid 90's. Rockcrawling is not the center of my universe anymore, but I think about it as much as sex.
Sorry, kind of off topic for a tractor thread.
I want to tend to my little bit of land. I will call in the heavy equipment when the shop is done. I want to build the toughest 200foot rockgarden, a place that it will take me a good year to make the last ledge. I look forward to braking new and exciting parts in my own yard.

[larryboy]

for less than 25k you should be able to get into a 40hp JD 4x4 with loader and a small backhoe.

[Toyota_Jim]

You can never have too big of a tractor. :D

I wish we had bigger tractors, we farm 2500 acres and the biggest tractor on the place is 165 hp. But the good thing about hay is not having to replant every year so there isn't that much actual farming to do. Rotating a 125 acre circle right now, MX170 Case w/ 10' Rototiller going 0.8 mph, only 0.96 acres per hour. Getting to read some good books though, Bourne series by Ludlum.

Have fun with your new toy!


what the hell do you farm?

We use a 290 horse tractor to pull the disc, its the brothers.

[ironpig70]

i work for a kubota dealer so i may be biased but never heard of kioto the problem i see alot is people buy a tractor then it breaks and there is no parts support for it or parts are a bitch to get and take for ever or lastly the brand goes out and in 5 to 10 years you cannot find parts. kubota is pretty good to get parts for. ask your jd, case or kubota dealer if they do a harvest rental program. we do and what it is is you buy a "used" tractor one that has been thur one season so it has a 100 hours or so on it, we have done all the maintaince, and you get a cheaper price than new.

[fj40guy]

Never heard of KIOTO.

Did a little research on them, Korean built machines. 250 parts distributors across the USA (no idea what they stock) -- noticed a local shop was listed as a parts distributor. Uh, they might stock oil filters!

The kioti is a few thousand less than the kabota model at the same size
For a 10% price difference, I'd stick with Kabota. If nothing else for resell value as if I bought used I would stick with JD or Kubota, not an unknown machine.

Other way to look at it... if you bought a decent used machine for $10K, and spent the other $10K towards a nice shop.... you might have to repair that tractor, but you'll have a place to do it. If I need something to make money, I don't want to mess with it breaking down... if for fun or "hobby" at least I'm not out money if it breaks. Talk to the dealers about used machines... usually they take them in trade, and you might find something just right for your needs. Neighbor has about that size of a Kubota that he got for $8K. Looks used, but he bought it to dig the foundation of his shop (3200 sq ft), grade two acres, etc. Irony is once all the work is done, he can sell it for what he paid for it. :smokin:

Tom :usa:

[heavytlc]

I would go used, but 0% is the deal. I will never buy used if I can get new at 0%. The 0% makes up for the money lost when you hit the curb. Just went to the JD dealer, ordered a filter kit, and dump assembely for the Gator. I looked at the JD tractors. It looks like the Kubota is leading the value per $ catagory. The JD are pricey, and I do not see lots of extra quality. I will post pics of my new tractor next week, what ever it is...
I find that tractors are like diesel trucks, everyone has there own brand. I only care that the job gets done, and done well.

[haystax]

New is new, 0% makes new purchases much more attractive. This is especially true when you have a short time frame to look and find the right deal. A lot of dealers use this interest savings as a way to keep sale prices higher and the retail margin fatter. Corporate policies determine which branch of the company books higher profits, higher interest generally means sticker price is more negotioable at the dealer level in my experience.

All major tractor brands have a rental program, either hourly or longer term leases. A used tractor, under 300 hours usually cost 1/3 of new and dealer financing still applies to these program tractors. If you rent a tractor, usually 80% of rent paid applies to purchase, this might work to decide which brand you prefer.

I would personally go with dealer service over brand distinction, make sure you have a good feel for the dealer and the service staff. We like Case products because of the dealer and the working relationship with his company.

Take 1/3 off of 23K =~15K subtract down payment = 12K over three years @ 8% = semi annual payments of $2289.14 for three years. Total interest paid of $1734.84 which should be tax deductable. You still get full depreciation on used equipment and an added tax writeoff and a cheaper out of pocket total.

Take 20K @ 0.0% = semi annual payments of $3333.33, full depreciation on a higher figure to start so there is more depreciation expense savings there but at a higher out of pocket cost.

Good luck and have fun with your new toy.

[John Smith]

My parents have 8 acres and bought a 4x4 Kubota diesel tractor in 1979 with a front loader, bush hog, mower deck, and rototiller and it still runs as good as the day they bought it. Back then Kubota was very new to the US and my dad took a gamble on them over the Ford gasser that was priced way higher. With the money saved over the Ford he was able to load up on the implements right away.

When this tractor dies if it ever does he will replace it with another Kubota. I don't think you can beat them for small tractor value and reliability. If I ever need a small tractor I will get a Kubota, period.

[sbrem]

I looked at the 3130, with a loader. I will use every bit of HP the machine has. I like the fit and finish alot better.

I have had my L3130DT for about a year. I love it. Great machine. You should check out tractorbynet (http://www.tractorbynet.com) They have a Kubota forum there, as well as Deere and Kioti and other brands too.

Stephen

[heavytlc]

I bought the 3130 Kubota yesterday. Got the loader (quick change) box scrape, 72"finish mower, pallet forks,post hole digger, and a bad ass chipper/shreader with blower.I take delivery wed. 0% for 36mon, 10% down.

[larryboy]

that is one happy salesman:D. the kubotas drive nice,like a car. you'll be real happy with it.

[heavytlc]

I went to buy it from my local dealer. The owner was on vacation for 3weeks, and his salesman quit the day he left for europe. The service manager was real cool, showed me everyting I needed to know, and explained that he could not sell me the tractor unless I could pay for it, because he had no idea how to run a finance contract. It had to suck to send the fat kid walking. The next day I went to the local dealer, near my new shop, about 10min later I was done and on the road. I enjoy buying stuff on the phone, it makes life easy.

[sbrem]

You will love the 3130. Which transmission did you end up with?

Stephen

[66CJdean]

If you ever want to sell it the Kubota will find a home much faster and for not much less than you paid for it where as the other might be a little harder to sell and wont resell for as much. I have a 24hp B2150 Kubota and it is a great tractor.

[ironpig70]

you will be happy with the kubota if you dealer doesn't have it on the shelf he can have it to you quick seeing how you have two warehouse close one in georgia and one in ohio. there good machines. i especially like it cause the kubota warehouse for california is 10 minutes from the shop :D