:bounce: :bounce2:

little victories, but I hammered out my D300 twin sticks last night.

http://tigger.tmcom.com/~marka/PhotoAlbums/twinstick/Twinstick_15.sized.jpg
http://tigger.tmcom.com/~marka/PhotoAlbums/twinstick/Twinstick_05.sized.jpg
http://tigger.tmcom.com/~marka/PhotoAlbums/twinstick/Twinstick_09.sized.jpg
http://tigger.tmcom.com/~marka/PhotoAlbums/twinstick/Twinstick_13.sized.jpg
http://tigger.tmcom.com/~marka/PhotoAlbums/twinstick/Twinstick_07.sized.jpg

I can't take total credit for the "design". I stole the idea from Twisted Binderz (http://www.twistedbinderz.org/tech.htm) and worked it over a little to the way I liked it.

So far so good, with the interlock pills in the only option I can't get it FWD-Hi... and it won't let me accidentally shift one into hi and the other low. So I might just leave them in for now.

Next stop: Modify the case to take the HD out-put shaft. Should be simple except I'll probably have to tear the case down again http://www.snort4x4.com/forum/images/smilies/sad.gif

Sticks might take a little more bending to get them right were I want them, but I'll wait till I get the thing in the truck first.


So far so good.

The entire picture library is HERE (http://tigger.tmcom.com/~marka/ImageGallery/twinstick), but Mechanos won't be able to look at the "porn" till he gets home :D :D

...The entire picture library is HERE (http://tigger.tmcom.com/~marka/ImageGallery/album08), but Mechanos won't be able to look at the "porn" till he gets home :D :D
Damn it.... :mad: :flipoff2:

That's cool that you got it done, but you're right about the "porno" :flipoff2:

Nice work! I am going to pimp your ideas this weekend. You did exactly what I was planning. One question though-- what did you use for the bolt with the zerk fitting that holds the shifters in place? Thanks.
Eric

Nice work! I am going to pimp your ideas this weekend. You did exactly what I was planning. One question though-- what did you use for the bolt with the zerk fitting that holds the shifters in place? Thanks.
Eric
Stock pin that holds the shifters in on the Scout T-case.

fyi:
the hole for the ball-stud is 5/8" dia.
You have to move the hole mounting hole for the stud on the straitened shifter up, like 1/4". I just lined it up and marked it. I also had to grind the mounting point down to get the ball to move away from the shift rod.

Stock pin that holds the shifters in on the Scout T-case.

Sweet, that is what I hoped you would say. One on the shifters I am going to use is from a scout d20. There is no difference between the d20 and d300 shifters, correct?
E-

Not that I know of. At least not that I have seen. The shifter I'm using on the D20 in the truck right now was on the 300 when it was in there... and was on the D20 before that :D

both the shifter's I used above were from D20's.

Are you running an auto trany or manual ? If you are running a manual you might have to modify the rear shifter ball stud .
I did the same twin stick conversion , had clearance issue of the stud hitting the transmission .
Had to shorten the stud about 1/4 mill the ball down about 1/8 and bend the stick in some .

Had to shorten the stud about 1/4 mill the ball down about 1/8 and bend the stick in some .

Could this be avoided by welding the ball stud to the shifter and cutting off the nut side of the stud?

Are you running an auto trany or manual ? If you are running a manual you might have to modify the rear shifter ball stud .
I did the same twin stick conversion , had clearance issue of the stud hitting the transmission .
Had to shorten the stud about 1/4 mill the ball down about 1/8 and bend the stick in some .
hmmm, good point I'll have to check.

I haven't had a chance to try it up to the tranny yet, so I'll have to do so. Luckly it should be as easy as taking the stick out of the D20 still in the truck and test fitting the twins...


manual tranny.

Are you running an auto trany or manual ? If you are running a manual you might have to modify the rear shifter ball stud .
I did the same twin stick conversion , had clearance issue of the stud hitting the transmission .
Had to shorten the stud about 1/4 mill the ball down about 1/8 and bend the stick in some .
Or just trim some of the threaded end off the ball stud and use a thinner nut (i.e. a jam nut that's only about 1/2 the thickness of a regular nut)

Looks good but... It's not done until it's in the rig and ready to wheel.
So go bolt the thing in and lets wheel it. :flipoff2:

Well, thanks to Kc J I test fit the stick in the truck (to the D20 that is currently in there). Yep, the contacted with the manual.

So out came the porta band and I started trimming. First I cut just the remaining threads off... still hits just a bit. So I wacked the nut in half.

Perfect, about an 1/8" clearance. Little lock-tight and I hope it will be fine.

http://tigger.tmcom.com/~marka/PhotoAlbums/twinstick/Twinstick_16.sized.jpg
http://tigger.tmcom.com/~marka/PhotoAlbums/twinstick/Twinstick_17.sized.jpg

Binder: :flipoff2:

I'd love to have it in, and would in a heart beat now that the twin-sticks are "done"... but looking at my calander, I'm going to be lucky to find a day to wheel for the next month, maybe two... so I have some time to finish some things.

Started work on the HD output last night.... Looks like I might have to have the rear shaft shortend... might wait on that till new new chassis gets going but I'll atleast prep the case :D:D

Cool

I can't take total credit for the "design". I stole the idea from Twisted Binderz and worked it over a little to the way I liked it

Hey thanks for the cred.

:beer:

I didn't go quite that thin on the nut and it clears fine.

http://www.justinternationals.org/gallery/data//503/1dana-300-twin-stick.jpg

looks very nice, i going to do it the easy way w/ my tcase, im just going to order a twick stick from ORD and bolt it on, and all i have to do is grind down a rail... i figured their doublers have a 203 in front of a 205 so why wouldnt it work for my klune i have in front of my 205...

we will have to wait and find out, as soon as klune v gets their heads out of their ass's... i cant believe they decide to wait 6 months to order a part from a GM supplier, that GM discontinued 7 months ago...

what did they plan to do in the mean time? now i have to wait for 60 -90 days and hope i get this crap in by sierra trek... if not, atleast for the rubicon run..

Here's a twinstick set-up I did for a friends 53' Flatfender a couple weeks back.
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Shyladyshy cam (http://camslivesexy.com/cam/Shyladyshy)

Got my D20 twin stick done today! You frackerz all got your junk done before me and it was my idea bastards!

Pics

http://www.twistedbinderz.org/members/n2ihc/newscout/twin.jpg

http://www.twistedbinderz.org/members/n2ihc/newscout/twin2.jpg

I still have to clearance the nut on the IB side for my 4 speed in the morning and cut the bolts down. They are that long because I wanted shank in the holes not threads.

Basically it's my original idea from project twin stick years ago except I bolted them and used the sheer pin that comes with them as a second pin on each rod. I wanted to ensure they would not move. I thought about just making them fit flush in the slot but after some thinking I decided that leaves room for wear and possible failure. I also toyed with the idea of using aluminum after seeing some folks had machined "key slots" on Just Internationals web site, but decided that also left room for wear and failure so I stuck with steal. Maybe I am just anal...yea I'm sure that's it. :flipoff2: I tend to be hard on my junk.

Funny everyone I know did the real mod before me because the first one I did on the first Dana 20 was a blown up D20 just used as a Guinn pig. I guess some vendor makes these key slots now so I am kind of flattered that my idea is getting around. Came a long way from 2 buddies working on a race car discussing it over some beers one day. Hey that's where the best ideas come from...beer...er think tank...yea? :roflmao:

Anyway thanks for getting all the kinks out and improving the design cause this was booty:

http://www.twistedbinderz.org/members/n2ihc/newscout/d20a.jpg

Hey beer was involved. :beer:

Kc J thanks for posting that tidbit of into about the manual trans. I have had mine intsalled for a bit now but I am just getting around to posting some pics up.

I also had to "clearance" the two blocks that where in this area because I used 2 pins.

http://www.twistedbinderz.org/members/n2ihc/newscout/twin4.jpg

Look at meh bling They came with the Scout. :grinpimp:

http://www.twistedbinderz.org/members/n2ihc/newscout/getrdone25.jpg

Think there will be an issue with removing the towers that were on that? :confused: Seems to work fine.

I didn't even put this piece back on...

http://www.twistedbinderz.org/members/n2ihc/newscout/twin4.jpg

Did you pull the interlock pills out? Ot oh! If you did you'll be poping out of gear... found out with my Dana 300 and pulled it out and apart again... the two springs under the balls that pop in and out of the notches that are groved into the shift rails are differant sizes... one is much stronger than the other... I called Border Parts and asked for two of the stronger springs and told him it was popping out... he sent me two springs that were actually a little longer and stronger than the heaviest one... then I found the holes that the springs went into were actually differant lengths... used some small washers to make them the same... used the heavier springs and now it never pops out of front or rear...

No I didn't and that is kinda strange cause I can get it into any gear combo. Don't know if I should worry about this or not yet. BTW my D20 is a 1971 model.

Have I mentiond how much I love this thread? I took t-18 stick and threw them in my 20. I then welded two washers to the shift rods or whatever they are called and went wheelin. :D

Have I mentiond how much I love this thread? I took t-18 stick and threw them in my 20. I then welded two washers to the shift rods or whatever they are called and went wheelin. :D
T-18 sticks? wow... that is a neat trick.:flipoff2: I assume you meant D-18 sticks. :beer:

T-18 sticks? wow... that is a neat trick.:flipoff2: I assume you meant D-18 sticks. :beer:

LOL... T, D, don't be a hater!

:laughing: :laughing:
I'll be doing something similar to what you did. I already have a pair of D-18 twin sticks sitting on the shelf. As soon as I can force myself out into the freezing conditions in my driveway to pull the t-case, it's going to get a couple of upgrades done to it.

Have I mentiond how much I love this thread? I took t-18 stick and threw them in my 20. I then welded two washers to the shift rods or whatever they are called and went wheelin. :DNo! Please tell us how much while your bending over to reach your little t-18 sticks... :D

No! Please tell us how much while your bending over to reach your little t-18 sticks... :D

It really ain't that bad. I guess if your seat's tall, you'll be reaching. In a stock 80, it seems to fit right. How much wider is a Scout II? :smokin:

After three back surgeries they were very short for me. Think they were about six inches shorter...

looks good i will be doing that soon to my d300

Reviving a old thread for some tech, not hardcore, but at least it's Tuesday! :flipoff2:
I recently finished a twin stick conversion on my 76 scout II with a 392, t-19 wide, and dana 20. Thanks to N2IHC (twistedbinderz), kc j, and rustoleum white for the good tips on what is needed to get it working good. I will try it on the trail here in a few weekends after I get my DOM tierod built cause the stocker got bent a bit. Here are a few pics of the little metal plates for the shifter rail, and the modifications for the shifter ball on the rear rail shifter. Also, a few finished pics how all the shifters turned out.

http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt53/ddub81/twinstick/Finishedshiftersinstalled.jpg

http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt53/ddub81/twinstick/newtwinshiftersandhardware.jpg

http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt53/ddub81/twinstick/shifterballstockvsmodified.jpg

http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt53/ddub81/twinstick/bothshifterspainted.jpg

http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt53/ddub81/twinstick/twinshiftersatfrontoftcase2.jpg

http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt53/ddub81/twinstick/twinshiftersattcaseinfrontlo.jpg

Looking really good! :mr-t: