I am having a very hard time finding the seal/wiper that goes around the cloed knuckel, it a felt and ruber thing. It's not eaven in the books at Lordco and Napa :mad: so any ideas whould be grate and a PN whould be sweet


Thanks so much for any input

i don't know if you have em up yonder, but i always find odd parts at carquest. they usually have a monster stock room.

upgrade time :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Buddy of mine in CO just rebuilt both sides so he should know, I need to call him tomorrow anyhow so I'll find out for ya if ya haven't found out by then.

Easy

Originally posted by EasyXJ
Buddy of mine in CO just rebuilt both sides so he should know, I need to call him tomorrow anyhow so I'll find out for ya if ya haven't found out by then.

Easy


I thank you so much


BTW it's the small ball type

and SeaBass not everyones a yuppie like you :flipoff2:


anyone ele?

oh yea the thing that gets me is that gets me is that the same axel is also on old GMC/Chevy suburbans and pickups

So what are they doing


hay anyone know an *old* GMC 4X4 fourm

if you must use the closed knuckle 44 you can buy some felt and rubber at OSH and make your own gaskets.

Originally posted by Chief Yelling Alot
It's not even in the books at Lordco :mad: so any ideas whould be great and a PN would be sweet


Thanks so much for any input

There's your problem. Lordco sells image not parts. Try an International dealer.

A while back I needed some for my 73 ford, went to the dealer and bought em.

Originally posted by Paul Gagnon


There's your problem. Lordco sells image not parts. Try an International dealer.

yeah my uncil works ther so I went ther today and they did not eaven have them listed (CoVan International)

Originally posted by Keith
A while back I needed some for my 73 ford, went to the dealer and bought em.

what model was the ford was it the small bal or the large ball?

Try www.kaiserwillys.com I think they'd have them. If it's really the small ball - D25 seals may work, but no guarantees - you can get them at JCW.

When you get to filling the knuckle up, if you use half grease, and half 90 weight, they don't leak as much.

Cool thanks i'll take a look

Um I whoulent say it's really smal ball it's just that the Dana 44 had two difrent size of balls and I got the small one.

hears a pic
try no to laugh


http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?p=999&gid=590188&uid=469498

Originally posted by Chief Yelling Alot
Cool thanks i'll take a look

Um I whoulent say it's really smal ball it's just that the Dana 44 had two difrent size of balls and I got the small one.

hears a pic
try no to laugh


http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?p=999&gid=590188&uid=469498

Small balls eh...ya know thats something we just dont need to hear
about...i dont think i would have admitted that..haha:p :p

try Danco in Port Kells
or anyone else that is a Hayes Dana dealer
I use Danco for everything Dana/Spicer

Don't look toooooo hard to make!

This guy found some:
http://www.geocities.com/yj3qtr_ton/dana44.html

Originally posted by mj
try Danco in Port Kells
or anyone else that is a Hayes Dana dealer
I use Danco for everything Dana/Spicer


Kewl got a #??


and did jeeep ever use this axel in the wagys and were ther difrent models (1/2 ton 3/4 ton 1 ton) like the Travelall and Suburban. and what year


looks like one chould make them

Old Scout got any more pics of the seal kit

Originally posted by chaz88k5


Small balls eh...ya know thats something we just dont need to hear
about...i dont think i would have admitted that..haha:p :p

yeah I saw that one comming from a mile away :flipoff2:
just wondering from who

Originally posted by Chief Yelling Alot
Cool thanks i'll take a look

Um I whoulent say it's really smal ball it's just that the Dana 44 had two difrent size of balls and I got the small one.

hears a pic
try no to laugh


http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?p=999&gid=590188&uid=469498

Looks like the D25 stuff will fit. I'm gonna tell you something you've probabally heard before, but that is a pretty weak axle. It looks like they used D25 Outers with a D44 pig. The spindle bolts have a nasty habit of ripping loose - so if the spindles are still using bolts, drill the knuckle holes to 3/8 and use D30 knuckle studs.

Hey Chief,
If those are the same as the 25/27's jeepdoc.com (www.jeepdoc.com) has them dirt cheap..... my old 27 measures 6 1/2" from flat spot to flat spot....
I went to napa and ordered them once, when they came in they said "ok that will be $50 each please" ...I said (after dropping a load)..."no thank you"....I would cut the fu#!ers off first..
I can do some more measuring for you if that figuer comes close.
-Kerry

Originally posted by oldjeep


Looks like the D25 stuff will fit. I'm gonna tell you something you've probabally heard before, but that is a pretty weak axle. It looks like they used D25 Outers with a D44 pig. The spindle bolts have a nasty habit of ripping loose - so if the spindles are still using bolts, drill the knuckle holes to 3/8 and use D30 knuckle studs.


yeah I know


I'll be easy on the rite foot and I alys got me eye open for a 60 or a late 44

but I was told that they use the same U joint as a 30 and my budy has a jeep with a 30 and he's runing 35s with a Cheby 350 and hes had it a few years now and hasent broken anything yet

so I kinda crosinf my fingures

Try Light Line of LA. They are the offical parts supplier for the IH Light Line.

Joe

I've ordered them from J.C. Whitney for about $11 bucks for both sides, plus shipping. They are all the same (Ford, Chevy, Dodge, Jeep, Intenational) The big ball knuckles that you refer to are called "3500 pound heavy duty 44's" , and they may be a little harder to find, but the others are easily available. And while it's true they aren't quite as strong as an open knuckle design, they are less maintnance due to the axle u joint not being exposed to the elements.

coo info; my neighbour works at a old school AMC deler and he deals old AMC parts so he might be abel to help me out. Havent ever talked to him once since he's lived hear, he can be a bit crazy if he's in a bad mood. :eek:

oh forgot to add

It whould be cool if one chould get some 30 spline axels made by Waren with some CTM U joints for the closed knuckle

Originally posted by oldjeep


The spindle bolts have a nasty habit of ripping loose - so if the spindles are still using bolts, drill the knuckle holes to 3/8 and use D30 knuckle studs.

have you done this before; chould you shed some more light on this and do I just go to a parts store and ask for D30 knuckle studs

thanks

I'm not giving up :confused: :confused:

Originally posted by Chief Yelling Alot
I am having a very hard time finding the seal/wiper that goes around the cloed knuckel, it a felt and ruber thing. It's not eaven in the books at Lordco and Napa :mad: so any ideas whould be grate and a PN whould be sweet


Thanks so much for any input

I'd make ya a deal for a set of Dana 44's (open knuckle front) off a 78 J10 truck 3.73 ratio, open; to help you out and get them out of my yard. email me at hewl35@hotmail.com if you are interested.

OK do you think waren whould be willing to make a 30 spline axel for a closed knucke 44. Like is this ther bag or do they just do langhts

and oldjeep look at the above question

Originally posted by Chief Yelling Alot


have you done this before; chould you shed some more light on this and do I just go to a parts store and ask for D30 knuckle studs

thanks

I've done it on D25's - which appear to use the same knuckle. The threads tend to tear out of the knuckle, so you drill them out to 3/8" and press in Dana 30 knuckle studs. Pretty easy.

Originally posted by oldjeep


I've done it on D25's - which appear to use the same knuckle. The threads tend to tear out of the knuckle, so you drill them out to 3/8" and press in Dana 30 knuckle studs. Pretty easy.

Oh I see so the studs whould be like the studs that hold your tire on right?