I have an extra set of Scout shackle bushing (poly/urethane) from prothane. I was thinking of using them as a hinge for a tire carrier. Old Scout provide the tube size thanks.

" Onlinemetals.com has it for 6.16/foot
A513 type 5 DOM
1.375"O.D. .120wall for a I.D of 1.14" +/-.04" Thanks Old Scout!

I plan to have the hinge supported on the top too.

What do you guys think will they be stable enough to support a 33” tire, high-lift jack, and two five gallon jerry cans?

That's exactly what I'm planning on doing. I figure with a good latch on the other side, it should work great. I've seen it several times before.

Nathan

I personally wouldn't use anything deflectable like poly bushings to make a tire carrier out of.... too much deflection. I'd look more toward brass/nylon/UHMW or something like that.

Trailer axle stubs and hubs work VERY well and can be had, complete, for cheap.

wrong app! The tire would bounce all over the place!

Not to mention every time you go to close it, you will have to pull it up, because the bushing will allow the carrier to sag.

Contact RockStomper.com ~ Scott has a diggity-dope bearing hinge for like $20

I used a Semi truck spring hanger. It's forged aluminum with a hard bronze insert. The bolt is a 1.25" grade 8 .

Man...there ya go again!

Man...there ya go again!
Ohh look the peanut gallery is going to show us some more of his smarts! :rolleyes: You sure picked the correct name!

Ya gotta do what ya gotta do!

Contact RockStomper.com ~ Scott has a diggity-dope bearing hinge for like $20

I've read a lot of cases of the RockStomper hinge failing.

I was going to use it (its ~40 by the way, not 20), but the idea of my tire, jerry can, and lift jettisoning themselves from the bumper in Phx freeway traffic kind of makes me want to look for another option.

This is what you need.
:D
http://www.snort4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12377

This is what you need.
:D
http://www.snort4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12377

Does the hub have the ability to lock the rack open?

Does the hub have the ability to lock the rack open?
If you used and old stub shaft and welded it to the bumper, then you should be able to engage the lock-out to lock the tire carrier open, closed, or anywhere inbetween.

If you used and old stub shaft and welded it to the bumper, then you should be able to engage the lock-out to lock the tire carrier open, closed, or anywhere inbetween.
I know how to do it, I'm just curious if that one was built that way. :flipoff2:

Yes you can. I cut a slot in the mount plate and then milled the end of the shaft to fit the slot.

I've read a lot of cases of the RockStomper hinge failing.

I was going to use it (its ~40 by the way, not 20), but the idea of my tire, jerry can, and lift jettisoning themselves from the bumper in Phx freeway traffic kind of makes me want to look for another option.

That is interesting because I have yet to hear of his hinge failing. I have heard plenty of times where guys back into shit and break most of their bumper off or tear their shitty weld but, I have yet to see a picture of the hinge itself failing from anything except being crushed between a vehicle and something not moveable, i.e. tree, rock, ect.

Too bad the one that has come off on the interstate had been crushed multiple times on the trail and not maintained properly. Checking welds would be a good thing after someone beats the shit out of something.

That is interesting because I have yet to hear of his hinge failing. I have heard plenty of times where guys back into shit and break most of their bumper off or tear their shitty weld but, I have yet to see a picture of the hinge itself failing from anything except being crushed between a vehicle and something not moveable, i.e. tree, rock, ect.

Too bad the one that has come off on the interstate had been crushed multiple times on the trail and not maintained properly. Checking welds would be a good thing after someone beats the shit out of something.

I don't have any personal first hand experience... And like I said, I was considering going with that product myself. I did find more than a couple of references to it failing while researching it on the web though, and that's all I was passing on. ;)

Here's a picture of the broken spindle from http://www.amug.org/~sschaefer/rearbumper.html.

http://www.amug.org/~sschaefer/rear_034.jpg

Strange. After looking at the pictures, I have a few questions. That swing out carrier doesn't seem to have a stop to support the free end when latched to the bumper. There may be one but, I can't see it. If there is not one, there would be an enormous bending load put on the spindle in that case, some from the weight of the items on the carrier and its own steel weight and then more load from the over-center clamp that is pulling it down. Driving down the road with no support on that end, only using a bending moment to hold in place, would fatigue anything over time and cycles. Do you happen to know if there is a support on that end?

Do you happen to know if there is a support on that end?

No idea... The guy is here in AZ, and I've either seen that rig, or one just like it, but never met him, all I know is what is on the site.

Scott seems like a pretty stand up guy, and obviously he sells a lot of these, so there's got to be more satisfied cutomers than ones with problems. I just figured its food for thought, and something to consider.

I think weight/leverage might have had something to do with it.
He also said it happened on a Sand Dune... Makes me wonder if he was at major high speeds Baja-ing...

The lower part of the rack looks like HD 2x4 that is 4-5' long.
Look how far over the hindge is.

Main bumper section: 125 pounds
Tire carrier assembly: 62 pounds
Goodyear MT/R & Aluminum Rim: 75 pounds

That carrier looks more than 62 pounds.

http://www.amug.org/~sschaefer/rear_029.jpg

Scott seems like a pretty stand up guy,

After camping all weekend next to Scott at Donner I can say he IS a stand up guy. After not liking how our spotter rope look he gave us a custom built one. Blue synthetic winch line with a complete abrasion guard, handle and integral carabineer. Just flat out gave it to us. Told us he wanted to make sure we stayed safe. If that isn't stand up I don't know what is, we had only introduced ourselves about 5 hours before.

Just my .02 all

On a side note, I've got a K-Line tire/jerry can carrier that I got from Josh C that won't fit on my junk.
If anyone is interested let me know.

It's used, ok shape (jerry can holder straps have some bends), but no hinges attached. I'm think $75 is a good number.

After camping all weekend next to Scott at Donner I can say he IS a stand up guy. After not liking how our spotter rope look he gave us a custom built one. Blue synthetic winch line with a complete abrasion guard, handle and integral carabineer. Just flat out gave it to us. Told us he wanted to make sure we stayed safe. If that isn't stand up I don't know what is, we had only introduced ourselves about 5 hours before.

Just my .02 all

Oh sure, you only camped next to Scott, not me thought huh :flipoff2:

Oh sure, you only camped next to Scott, not me thought huh :flipoff2:


:laughing: :laughing:

Oh Yeah!!! There was this other guy!! :flipoff2: Sorry everyone forgets the spotter, ask me how I know!