: Drive slugs for a Dana 44 front?
JeepinDoug 08-28-2004, 05:46 PM Okay, this seems like a dumb question but I have a decent reason for it.
Does anyone make aftermarket drive slugs for a Dana 44 front axle, internal hub and 19 spline stubs?
I know I could go to a JY and get some ugly Waggy slugs/caps or buy them new but I'd rather have the stronger bling style like Poly has for the 60s.
Also the smog techs will see the caps and think it's a full time 4WD, this means no dyno and no "No(PPM)" readings.
90% trail rig and 10% grocery getter.
NE-RokToy 08-28-2004, 06:38 PM just a something I thought I would point out.. I'm sure you could show the smog guys its part time or it takes about 15 minutes to swap the slugs for a set of hubs.
I'm pretty sure the only route to go might be warn but I don't think your wallet would like that if it will even work.
u2slow 08-28-2004, 07:15 PM What exactly is 'weak' about the stock drive flange? :confused:
I went to smog testing with my hubs locked, in 4hi, and after it drove off the dyno, they simply asked if it was full-time :laughing:
JeepinDoug 08-28-2004, 07:19 PM just a something I thought I would point out.. I'm sure you could show the smog guys its part time or it takes about 15 minutes to swap the slugs for a set of hubs.
I'm pretty sure the only route to go might be warn but I don't think your wallet would like that if it will even work.
The smog techs won't put the full-time on the dyno, that's why I want the visual of the slugs.
I'm not afraid of the cost.
JeepinDoug 08-28-2004, 07:26 PM What exactly is 'weak' about the stock drive flange? :confused:
I went to smog testing with my hubs locked, in 4hi, and after it drove off the dyno, they simply asked if it was full-time :laughing:
I have no idea if the stockers are weak. That, I'm sure, is another point to make, would I rather pop a stock slug or a CTM or a Superior axle? I guess the slug would be the best choice.
I told the tech that my Jeep is a full-time with locking hubs, which it's not. For this case they will not dyno it BUT the tech noticed my front drive shaft was not on yet so he dyno'd it. My only smog failure was a No reading 40ppm over the limit so I changed the O2 sensor. The old O2 is around 7 years old and prolly getting lazy. They don't take the No readings off the dyno.
Spawn_X 10-11-2005, 09:33 PM back to top - searched but didn't have too much luck.
want to go to flanges/slugs but am having not so much good luck finding them.. only ones i've found are these:
http://www.tellico4x4.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/238_1166/products_id/12657?osCsid=95ca3d3fbc95212a64f341410a2ffb30
but 211 dollars for slugs is a bit pricy.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Jeep-dana-44-drive-flanges-chevy-ford_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33728QQitemZ800534 9564QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW found those on ebay, but not sure if they'll fit? Its going into a 78 HP44, 5 lug outers/internal hubs..
any advice would be great. thank you
Spawn_X 10-12-2005, 10:04 PM bump.
JeepinDoug 10-12-2005, 10:20 PM I never found anything for them and now I'm graduating to a 60.
If you know a machinist, it would be simple to modify the stock slugs for some screw-on caps.
Spawn_X 10-12-2005, 10:56 PM I never found anything for them and now I'm graduating to a 60.
If you know a machinist, it would be simple to modify the stock slugs for some screw-on caps.
is there a reason for the screw-on caps? do the old stockers just click/snap in and come out often? not sure on the benefit of screwing the caps on.
since there isn't much out there i guess i'll just warranty my warn premiums and stick with them. the only option i like are the warn flanges, but at 200 bucks they're BANK.
JeepinDoug 10-12-2005, 11:19 PM is there a reason for the screw-on caps? do the old stockers just click/snap in and come out often? not sure on the benefit of screwing the caps on.
since there isn't much out there i guess i'll just warranty my warn premiums and stick with them. the only option i like are the warn flanges, but at 200 bucks they're BANK.
I don't know, never dealt with the full time slugs.
I always carried spare premeims and warrantee them when needed.
Spawn_X 10-13-2005, 02:31 PM I don't know, never dealt with the full time slugs.
I always carried spare premeims and warrantee them when needed.
cool, thanks. time to shoot warn an email
Isley 10-13-2005, 03:09 PM Shoot Mike (TRKSMTH) at Hi9 a PM. A while back (earlier this summer) I thought I remember him showing me a set of slugs and caps that they were looking to make. For some reason I think they were for the D44 but am not 100% certain.
Spawn_X 10-13-2005, 07:48 PM well too late now, i just sent a paypal for the ebay slugs off the waggoneer. from what i gathered in the search, the waggoneer slugs are the ones to use.
BTW, warn told me i need to get a receipt somehow and that its needed to warranty them (after i told them i don't have one and am not anywhere near where they were bought), so screw them i guess. like a couple others said in the warn premium threads, they should back up their product regardless of the receipt/purchase place. its their product. it was OBVIOUSLY purchased at some point. wtf does the receipt matter? lifetime warranty is lifetime warranty. :shaking:
in fact, i think i'm going to reply to their email with my little rant. i don't care for the replacements anymore since i just bought the slugs, but let it be just one more opinion voiced to them..
JohnnyJ 10-13-2005, 08:38 PM A few friends have carried Wag slugs as backups to Warn premiums and milemarkers. I've seen at least one o them pop a lockout, drop in the slug, and then proceed to pop the outer shaft or u-joint on the same trip.
As for the Warn receipt thing, no idea.
JeepinDoug 10-13-2005, 08:43 PM Yup, without a receipt you're fawked.
They don't want someone to keep passing lockouts through all their friends and selling on eBay only to warrantee them.
Otherwise it would be like me with Craftman tools, get them cheap when they're broken at a flea market and return for new, :D
94stepsideford 10-13-2005, 10:17 PM IM just goign to cookie up and buy warn slugs. My superwinch hubs keep taking a dump on me:shaking: and i dont even beat it that hard as I have to drive it to work the next day:laughing:
Spawn_X 10-14-2005, 08:26 AM Yup, without a receipt you're fawked.
They don't want someone to keep passing lockouts through all their friends and selling on eBay only to warrantee them.
Otherwise it would be like me with Craftman tools, get them cheap when they're broken at a flea market and return for new, :D
so what's wrong with that? if they're broken, they should be warrantied. who cares if someone sold them used/broken and then wants to warranty them? its their product, and someone originally paid the full price on them.
craftsman is cool. they actually take care of the warranty, and do stand behind the product, because it doesn't matter what happens to it - originally it was purchased by someone so Warn already got their money.
i've thought about any issues i might have, but i don't wheel hard enough, and am running cryo'd joints/shafts, and it beats going out and spending 80-90 bucks on a new set of lockouts.
those 200 dollar bling ones are cool and all, but no one should beef up a 44 to that extent IMO, just wasted $$
b2dude 10-14-2005, 08:40 AM those $200 bling ones were 30spl ones anyway...they wouldn't work with your 19 spl outer anyway. or am i missing something? i've always wanted to do this too but nobody makes the screw on caps that i'm aware of. it'd be sweet to get a set of the skull and x-bones ones for the d44...eh
::edit:: i just looked at the warn ones again. i read the fist time and just saw the part that said "rear Dana 44 with WARN full-floating conversion kit." so i thought they were just for the rear. it actually says..."WARN Heavy Duty Drive Flange (Set) 30-Spline for Dana 44 front axle with WARN 30-spline alloy outer axles or rear Dana 44 with WARN full-floating conversion kit." but dayum that's some serious coin after you get the outers and the slugs...well, for me anyway
JeepinDoug 10-14-2005, 05:58 PM so what's wrong with that? if they're broken, they should be warrantied. who cares if someone sold them used/broken and then wants to warranty them? its their product, and someone originally paid the full price on them.
craftsman is cool. they actually take care of the warranty, and do stand behind the product, because it doesn't matter what happens to it - originally it was purchased by someone so Warn already got their money.
It's called capitalism and free trade.
Their company policy is set.
Just gonna have to live with it or boycott them and buy Milemarkers.
Spawn_X 10-14-2005, 06:59 PM It's called capitalism and free trade.
Their company policy is set.
Just gonna have to live with it or boycott them and buy Milemarkers.
i'll boycott them by talking shit on the internet..:D
kwrangln 10-14-2005, 07:42 PM craftsman is cool. they actually take care of the warranty, and do stand behind the product, because it doesn't matter what happens to it
I wish craftsman did that, they might for cheap stuff, but the two broken torque wrenches I have in the shop they wont do shit for. Or power tools, or tool boxes, or a bunch of other stuff.
Warranties are for origional purchaser only, sucks, but fact of life, deal with it.
I'm also sittin on a dead optima with that should be covered under warranty, but no place local will take it without a reciept, sucks to be me. Now that I think about it, I still have to call them, keep meaning to and forgetting.
JeepinDoug 10-14-2005, 08:46 PM I wish craftsman did that, they might for cheap stuff, but the two broken torque wrenches I have in the shop they wont do shit for. Or power tools, or tool boxes, or a bunch of other stuff.
They will warrantee the torque wrench if it's the same exact model they presently sell.
I found out the hard way.
Spawn_X 10-20-2005, 06:44 PM got my slugs in yesterday, put'em on, tapped the cover back in place, and now i'm good to go! no more getting out of the truck. although i'm worried about the wear it'll put on my u-joints. they're cryo'd, and caps are tacked in place. hopefully i won't have to deal with changing them too often
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