Has anyone tried mounting some stiff shocks horizontally, with one end attatched to the axle housing and the other end attatched to the frame to dampen the effects of spring wrap. I already built a Sams off road style of bar for the rear, but due to the geometry of the suspension it binds like crazy, and puts a ton of stress on the mounting points. So I was trying to come up with a new way to deal with the spring wrap issue...think it would work?

Dan

Yes. Round track racers have done it with a toplink and coilover for a while now.

Yes. Round track racers have done it with a toplink and coilover for a while now.


Got any pics/ drawings of that set up?

Dan

Here (http://www.stockcarproducts.com/rsusp7.htm) you go. I would go for a solid toplink meself if I were running leaf springs, why make things complicated.

its not going to stop spring wrap. It will slow it down is all, which I guess might help but it will still not be optimum. Only way to do a anti wrap bar is a sams IMO

Solid toplink helps, but doesnt completely get rid of it. It changes the point of were the springs will wrap, but they will still infact wrap- although not as much as nothing at all.

its not going to stop spring wrap. It will slow it down is all, which I guess might help but it will still not be optimum. Only way to do a anti wrap bar is a sams IMO

My sams style bar that I fabricated seemed to not have the correct geometry...If I use it as is it will cause the rear axle to move in a different arc than it normally would without the bar. Is this normal? I do have dakota (10" longer than stock YJ) springs on this thing. In the rear the long side of the spring goes forward. When the suspension droops, the long side flexes easier and actually causes the pinion to rotate down, a movement that would be stopped by a sams style bar if it were on there. Is this a problem, and wouldn't it just break at the weak point wherever that happens to be?

Dan

does your bar pivot where the spring does?
I have read that the shackle on the bar needs to be mounted close to where the front of the leaf spring is attached. I guess this allows the axle to swing close to the arc of the spring.

My sams style bar that I fabricated seemed to not have the correct geometry...If I use it as is it will cause the rear axle to move in a different arc than it normally would without the bar. Is this normal? I do have dakota (10" longer than stock YJ) springs on this thing. In the rear the long side of the spring goes forward. When the suspension droops, the long side flexes easier and actually causes the pinion to rotate down, a movement that would be stopped by a sams style bar if it were on there. Is this a problem, and wouldn't it just break at the weak point wherever that happens to be?

Dan
How long and where does your frame mount attach? Sounds like its maybe short? I would think maybe your rear shackle angle could effect how the pinion acts also. Its not really a problem IMO unless your binding your driveshaft joint or wrapping your springs.

How long and where does your frame mount attach? Sounds like its maybe short? I would think maybe your rear shackle angle could effect how the pinion acts also. Its not really a problem IMO unless your binding your driveshaft joint or wrapping your springs.


My frame mount on the bar attatches about 3" in front of the fixed eye on the springs. The springs are 10" longer than stock, all of which is toward the front. My shackle angle is tilted quite a bit, like 45 degrees or so. With this design, a lot of stress seems like it will be applied to the bar and its mountings. Am I worrying about nothing? And is this the nature of SOA and anti wrap bars?

Dan