: more NV4500 q's


97Taco
01-27-2002, 01:45 PM
i did the search thing but came up empty handed as i was looking for years and models of trucks to find a nv4500 tranny in.
does anyone have a link or know somewhere i might this information? best yet i am looking for one that i can bolt up to a 4.3 chevy v6, so what would be a good donor truck to look for?
as far as a t-case goes i would like to run a dana 300, so i am pretty sure i will need an adapter there.

Thanks for any help
Brent

dawhipp
01-27-2002, 02:06 PM
Just a thought; if you're only running a V6 why don't you look for a NV 3500 that was use in Dodge Dakatas? It sure would be cheaper!

scouter77
01-27-2002, 02:19 PM
Mid to late 90's chevies and dodges. Usually 1 tons. The 3500 doesnt have as steep first gear as a 4500. I am not 100% sure but I think a d300 will go on w/ factory adapters. Look at www.advanceadapters.com thats their dream tranny and they push it like it was the end-all to every 4x4's needs. :rolleyes:

The Adam Blaster
01-27-2002, 03:31 PM
For a V6 you're not going to need the NV4500, they used those in the Dodge 2500 HD with any engine of 360 or larger. That little Chevy doesn't have near enough torque to hurt the NV3500, so maybe just stay with the lighter model? Which of course, would reduce the overall weight of the rig.

tigger4x
01-27-2002, 04:34 PM
Originally posted by The Adam Blaster
For a V6 you're not going to need the NV4500, they used those in the Dodge 2500 HD with any engine of 360 or larger.

97TACO ... I have an NV4500 out of a low mileage Dodge D2500 rollover listed in the For Sale section. You can use the "search" with NV4500 for the item and Tigger4X as the "poster". If you have any questions, feel free to post here or email me direct.

Charly
01-27-2002, 05:08 PM
Originally posted by The Adam Blaster
For a V6 you're not going to need the NV4500, they used those in the Dodge 2500 HD with any engine of 360 or larger. That little Chevy doesn't have near enough torque to hurt the NV3500, so maybe just stay with the lighter model? Which of course, would reduce the overall weight of the rig.

Isn't the point of an NV4500 a decent low first gear and an OD, I don't see how thw NV3500 does that.

The Adam Blaster
01-27-2002, 11:08 PM
Originally posted by Charly


Isn't the point of an NV4500 a decent low first gear and an OD, I don't see how thw NV3500 does that.

Well, yes if that was the whole point in getting the 4500, but he never said that. I was just telling him that if it was durability that he was thinking of, that he needn't worry about the NV3500 with that engine.

HeyBeerMan
01-28-2002, 06:07 AM
Mid 90's 2wd Dodge. That's what I got mine out of and it bolted right up to a Dana 300.

Bigguy
01-28-2002, 07:00 AM
Get the AA book on the NV4500. I believe that you can download and read the information that you are looking for. Stay away from the Dodge NV4500 unless you want to change out the front input shaft. It will bolt straight up to the 4.3.

TLCObsession
01-28-2002, 10:54 AM
I also have a NV4500 for sale in the For Sale section - its from a Chevy....

TJ
01-28-2002, 01:53 PM
Saw this site on the web. I haven't used them, but there is some info.
nv4500 (http://www.tellico4x4.com/trans.htm)
I bought all my parts from Parts Mike when I did my converson and bought my transmission from the Dodge dealer. It was cheaper and I didn't pay shipping..

97Taco
01-28-2002, 08:21 PM
basicly i am looking for the best of both world's, a deep first gear and over drive, i understand that the 3500 doesnto have as deep of first gear, that s why i want the 4500:D
Brent

SweetCJ7
01-29-2002, 05:50 AM
Go to Parts Mike (junmike@vfr.net) . He can tell you how to order one from the dealer that has all the bolt patterns you need. Also, I don't remember who but someone had a Chebby one here a few days ago that was 6.34 ist. Jump on that. I think it was $1000 incl shipping. Check it out.

tulsa_jeeper
01-29-2002, 09:29 AM
How about this....?

I have a NV3500 bolting up to a 5.2 and a AltasII. I would like to change to a NV4500 for the low 1st. Does anyone know if this would a easy swap? just unbolt one and bolt in the other?

thanks

Charly
01-29-2002, 09:51 AM
Ok.....

Keep in mind there are many NV4500s, and the important differences are input stickout length (basically GM vs. Dodge) and then their is the ass end-spline count and tcase mount bolt pattern (spline count is all over the place.... gas vs. diesel...). And then there is 2wd vs. 4wd.

A 2wd NV4500, regardless of GM vs. Dodge, will not bolt up to a D300.

So the 'adapters' you will need will all depend on which NV4500 you get.

Every 4500 made from 95-now is 5.61:1, it's only the GM 93 and 94s that had the 6.34:1 first (some apparently were released in late 92s according to GM).

To get the 4500 between a GM 4.3 and a D300, the Dodge gas (standard duty) 4wd 93-00 version would be the easiest. These have an NP tcase pattern and 23 splines on the mainshaft (output). From 01 -on the have 29 splines (a new input for the 300 is available if you end up with one of these). 1996 and newer versions of this Dodge 4500 will need a shorter D300 bearing retainer for proper indexing (the internal dimensions of the stock Dodge tailhousing were changed in 96).

Otherwise a D300 will essentially bolt up.

Now to the front end of this same tranny.

AA makes a full bellhousing, but you will need to change the input shaft to a GM version and machine the bearing retainer to fit the GM release bearing.

They also offer an adapter plate that will bolt between a Dodge standard duty 4500 and a stock GM bellhousing.

Using any other 4500 with the D300 will necessitate a mainshaft change and purchase of either a stock Dodge tailhousing, or AA's special made one (has tcase shifter mounts and is 3/4" shorter overall).

Charly

P.S. I second the notion that the AA NV4500 book is well worth the $10 if you are interested in this swap.

Charly
01-29-2002, 10:05 AM
Oh, and if you do score an early GM (with the 6.34 first) you will need to swap that mainshaft out (to the Dodge 4wd gas, standard duty....blah blah....23 spline....and get the tailhousing.

If you do end up going this way, I found a great place to get the mainshafts (and rebuild kits with synchros or without).....cheap......let me know.

AA makes a GM full bellhousing (clutch fork on driver's side) or you can use the stock GM one (but the clutch fork is on the passenger side..).

This is what I'm doing, but it will be between a 350 TBI and a EB D20.

Here's a site with info on how to get a great GM tech manual, it's specifcally for the early GM , but it's all prety much the same: http://www.off-road.com/jeep/reviews/jlnv4500.htm

For adapters, give http://www.800-923-jeep.com/ a call, they have AA's products (adapters) at 20% off (Atlas' are 10% off). you can tell them I sent ya, but they won't know who the fawk I am.

Charly