I want to hear how some other people do it, I went to Discount tire yesterday and they wanted $305 for a 36x12.5x15 TSL/SX I talked them down to 221 but that still seems high to me. For a 35x12.50x15 MTR they wanted 236 and I got then down to 171.91, but I want a better deal.

They problem is that all the rich basterds around here go in with Daddys money and just buy the tires, without any questions making it harder for people that know better to buy tires from them.

And they wont price match any Internet companys. Only places in town(Wal-mart)

So lets hear it.

www.samsoffroad.com I don't know how far you are from Tulsa but it might be worth the drive up or shipping. Give them a call or email them.
DIG IT!
TSL/SX 36x12.50-15LT 6 22/32 10.3 35.9 13.3 8.5x15-10J 30 2720 $184.95 each

jus shop around. go to the places cuz some stores "just want the sale." i did and got MTR/s mounted and balanced for $150 a piece. didn't have to pay tax. then again it was a family friend, and hes basically the only guy that we buy tires from so that kind of helped.

i go in tell them what i am willing to pay and what other company's prices are and then wait for him to come down...if he dicks around, i leave! if he is a good salesman he won't let me leave. otherwise i don't wanna do business with'em. i actually have made some good friends in the tire business doing that.

-cutts-

Must be a lot of tire salesmen on this board, I expected more responses.

www.samsoffroad.com I don't know how far you are from Tulsa but it might be worth the drive up or shipping. Give them a call or email them.
DIG IT!
TSL/SX 36x12.50-15LT 6 22/32 10.3 35.9 13.3 8.5x15-10J 30 2720 $184.95 each

Im going to try and use their priceing to get Discount tire down.

Thanks.

I can get you much better deals on tires if you're interested and as a bonus you can save the sales tax.

You've got to remember, the tire price is also going to include mounting and balancing. Also most tire places include some sort of a road hazard warranty, and also rotations and flat repairs for free. Judging from the prices that you posted, The tire shop is probably only marking up the tires $30 to $40 dollars over cost. If you ask me, you already talked them down as low as they can go. As a buisiness they still have to make some sort of money on you otherwise they couldn't stay open to sell you tires. And yes I am a tire salesman.

i sell tires. and yes i'm also a manager. selling a 37 inch $200 tire for $20 over cost and tying up a bay for 1 hour while taking my whole 3 general service crew to mount doesn't make sense if i can make 40% profit on $80 tires all day long taking half the time. I have costs i need to cover and and gross profit is what keeps my job.
It's the same thing when friggin people call up and say "napa has rotors that are $40, what makes you expect me to pay $80?" reply: "go to napa and see if they'll jack your car up in the parking lot and install them for that price."
We might be higher, or lower, than someone else, but it's the people inside that you trade with not the sign out side. it's the extra couple of bucks that lets us help you out if you have a problem with something... if i sold stuff for a few $ over cost, i'd probably tell you S.O.L.
my 2 cents.

Look im not trying to screw the tire guy over, im trying to get an honest price for the tires. When I go in there and ask for the price on a 36" super swamper and he tells me $305 in pisses me off. I know the tire doesnt cost that much, I am willing to pay a little more for mounting, balanceing and to have a warranty, but not $130 more per tire.

I could buy almost twice as many tires for that amount of money.

I guess I should of stated my question different.

How to talk the tiresalesmen down to an honest price?

How to talk the tiresalesmen down to an honest price?

You don't. You go elsewhere and get them from somebody that doesn't talk all the nonsense like the two guys above.

Gross profit is all fine and dandy, but at some point you need to do something to keep a customer.

You guys ever think that beating a magazine price on a set of 37s might make the guy bring back his DD for a set of 31" road tires and not haggle the price?

Sorry but it doesn't make much sense to me to lose a sale no matter how slim the profit margin is. You either sell four tires and tie up a bay for an hour or you sell nothing and neither you or your guys on flat rate out in the shop make ANYTHING.

Sorry...but the kind of margins people expect to pull in retail are unrealistic and generally just piss me off.

Also, paying $80 for a brake rotor that you bought at Napa is insane. You're selling the service to install the brake rotor, you're simply ordering the brake rotor to put on people's car.

Makes me sick that you make a 50% margin on a product like a special order tire or a brake rotor that you don't even stock, you simply pick up the phone and order something and expect to turn that kind of profit?

Pathetic.

If you can't give someone a decent deal on a set of tires, give me a call ahead of time. I'll have a set mounted and balanced and ready to go at your door much cheaper than whoever you're getting them from, not to mention you can still make a reasonable profit on them and your guys won't tie up a bay for an hour trying to put them on. For just what you'd charge to mount and balance a tire, I can sell you a new wheel, have it mounted/balanced, and have it on its way to you.

Local shops are a bad choice when it comes to big off road tires. I know, I've tried to buy them there before.

Go to a place, get the lowest price in writing...take it somewheree else and have them beat it...etc etc..
Josh

Go to a place, get the lowest price in writing...take it somewheree else and have them beat it...etc etc..
Josh

I live in Abilene Tx that shit dont work here, there is only so far Wal-Mart and Discount will go.

Tim84K10, what do you have to offer?

You don't. You go elsewhere and get them from somebody that doesn't talk all the nonsense like the two guys above.

Gross profit is all fine and dandy, but at some point you need to do something to keep a customer.

You guys ever think that beating a magazine price on a set of 37s might make the guy bring back his DD for a set of 31" road tires and not haggle the price?

Sorry but it doesn't make much sense to me to lose a sale no matter how slim the profit margin is. You either sell four tires and tie up a bay for an hour or you sell nothing and neither you or your guys on flat rate out in the shop make ANYTHING.

Sorry...but the kind of margins people expect to pull in retail are unrealistic and generally just piss me off.

Also, paying $80 for a brake rotor that you bought at Napa is insane. You're selling the service to install the brake rotor, you're simply ordering the brake rotor to put on people's car.

Makes me sick that you make a 50% margin on a product like a special order tire or a brake rotor that you don't even stock, you simply pick up the phone and order something and expect to turn that kind of profit?

Pathetic.

If you can't give someone a decent deal on a set of tires, give me a call ahead of time. I'll have a set mounted and balanced and ready to go at your door much cheaper than whoever you're getting them from, not to mention you can still make a reasonable profit on them and your guys won't tie up a bay for an hour trying to put them on. For just what you'd charge to mount and balance a tire, I can sell you a new wheel, have it mounted/balanced, and have it on its way to you.

Local shops are a bad choice when it comes to big off road tires. I know, I've tried to buy them there before.


In my experience, local shops are the way to go. Screw 4wpw and their bullshit...the local tire shop here got my tires for way cheaper than 4wp and that was WITH install. It took about 3 weeks to get the tires but the guys were all real cool. I'll definately be buying tires from them from now on. The fact is though, local shops don't carry tires like tsl's and have to go through all of the trouble to get them and mount them so of course they aren't going to be as cheap as the mags.
Hiapo, you live in TX. Home of huge tires. If you wan't cheaper tires bad then drive 45 minutes and look, otherwise go gamble with 4wpw.

I want to hear how some other people do it, I went to Discount tire yesterday and they wanted $305 for a 36x12.5x15 TSL/SX I talked them down to 221 but that still seems high to me. For a 35x12.50x15 MTR they wanted 236 and I got then down to 171.91, but I want a better deal.

They problem is that all the rich basterds around here go in with Daddys money and just buy the tires, without any questions making it harder for people that know better to buy tires from them.

And they wont price match any Internet companys. Only places in town(Wal-mart)

So lets hear it.

hey if u are looking at getting MTR's i have a reciept from Wal-Mart, showing 37x12.50R15 @ $160 a piece! now that is a steal.. if u want 35's, they should be lower than 160.. the guy got 4-37" MTR's, the warrantys for all four tires, and new valve stems for a total of $ 679.04 :flipoff2:

if u want the reciept i can email it to you.. let me know :D

A way to drive your point home is to go into a tire shop and say "the salesman at(insert their competitor here) was a dick and wouldn't work with me on this so i'm here to do business with you" It's amazing how far that will get you.

What i can't stand are tire places that won't sell a tire outright. I tried buying a set of 35-12.50 dunlop mud rovers at the local Dobbs tire. Tires list for $105, they wanted to charge me $170 and then give me their "free" mounting and balancing.

I asked what kind of price can i get outright and he said 170 was all the lower that he'd go. I told him i could have the tires shipped to my door for $120 each (showed him the quote) and then have them mounted and balance for $20 each and still be $30 ahead per tire but that i wanted to keep my business local and at the shop I ALWAYS buy tires at. I told him i'd buy the tires for $140 each outright and he told me to forget it. (he thought i was some punk kid that just wanted my way)

I told him to check my name on the computer to see the kind of business tehy've gotten out of me in the past 2 years. The look on his face was priceless when he looked at the screen. I wanna say i'd spent almost $1000 at that tire store in two years. I told him I would never buy another tire at that store again and walked out. Found another tire shop and that's where I've been doing my business since.

Justin

You could also figure out how much time you are wasting running all over the planet getting tire prices. Then figure out how much you want to spend for tires and tell them that price. Either they can do it or they cant. If you are realistic and they want to make the sale kick ass, if you are crazy and they dont need the business that bad then kick rocks.

Dane

I wanna say i'd spent almost $1000 at that tire store in two years.

that aint really a whole lot....i know that ive spent probably that much in a year with my local shop,
two vehicles+both need new tires=easily more than $1000

That's not the point. If they don't appreciate your business, you go elsewhere, plain and simple.

You could also figure out how much time you are wasting running all over the planet getting tire prices. Then figure out how much you want to spend for tires and tell them that price. Either they can do it or they cant. If you are realistic and they want to make the sale kick ass, if you are crazy and they dont need the business that bad then kick rocks.

Dane

I live in a pretty small area so running all over the place isnt really a big deal, and I am crazy.............



If I paid the prices that they first told me.

The thing is they can do it, and they will come around.........I hope

Look on ebay there are ppl selling Swampers all the time. I bought 40in SSRs w ith 90% tread mounted on weld rims for 600 bucks. Tire shops are gona dick you. look online :smokin: