: How to make a CJ 2A into a good road/off road combo?
2001gtboy 01-27-2002, 08:23 PM Im working on getting the 289 back up to running shape, now i figure once it gets rolling, things are gonna break really fast, so what should i be looking toward for replacements? I already got lockers in mind, but they have the be selective, so ill need a compressor with that, and im thinking for D40s to replace my axles with 33 inch tires.....what yall think?
Originally posted by 2001gtboy
Im working on getting the 289 back up to running shape, now i figure once it gets rolling, things are gonna break really fast, so what should i be looking toward for replacements? I already got lockers in mind, but they have the be selective, so ill need a compressor with that, and im thinking for D40s to replace my axles with 33 inch tires.....what yall think?
the lockers your talkin about with a compressor are ARB air lockers
D40s :confused: you mean 44s?
if you want pics of a badass cj2a(stock lol)
look for pics of Flatty's rig
2001gtboy 01-28-2002, 08:51 AM yesi guess i meant 44. everyone has told me that, my stock axles are gonna snap soon behind the 289 and 33's
mtadams 01-28-2002, 09:51 AM You put Waggy D44 axles in it, extend the frame, Detroit in the rear, ARB in the front, exo-cage, some 36" Swamper SXs and wala.... you get my Jeep :D
-Matt
High5 01-28-2002, 01:13 PM waggy d44's with warn shafts and ctm's in the front. spool the rear and full detroit in the front. lengthen the wb to about 100" . run either a auto, np435, or t18 with your dana18 x-case. throw on a set of swampers and raise hell. :D
2001gtboy 01-28-2002, 01:27 PM why and how would i extend the frame? where can i get a set of 44s anyways? im i gonna need to go junkyard hoping?
Cutter 01-28-2002, 01:49 PM take some one who knows axles to the yard with you. And when you get quoted a price, post it here and w'ell tell ya if its fair or not. And if it's real low, post the addy too!:flipoff2:
Originally posted by 2001gtboy
why and how would i extend the frame? where can i get a set of 44s anyways? im i gonna need to go junkyard hoping?
WHY: longer wheelbase=more stability, like goin up or down steep hills, you wont be as likely to roll.
go to the junkyard and get a set of waggoneer 44s. what tranny and t case u running behind the 289?
2001gtboy 01-28-2002, 08:36 PM Originally posted by Brad
WHY: longer wheelbase=more stability, like goin up or down steep hills, you wont be as likely to roll.
go to the junkyard and get a set of waggoneer 44s. what tranny and t case u running behind the 289?
stock......all i got done is overdrive....
and the stock tranny and case would be? im guessing t18and d20. probly way off though.
for HOW go check out the cruiser section and do a search for wheelbase stretch or frame stretching or something along those lines, tons of good info
hy_desert_4wheeler 01-28-2002, 10:48 PM stock tranny=t90
stock T-case=D18
2001gtboy 01-29-2002, 09:31 AM Originally posted by hy_desert_4wheeler
stock tranny=t90
stock T-case=D18
thats correct
Underdog 01-29-2002, 10:10 AM How to make a CJ 2A into a good road/off road combo?
was the question?
Uh i would find anouther vehicle roll the body off and make your body fit it, and or it fit your body.
This would net you a modern vehicle (better on road/off road combo) and your preferd body.
F-250
CK-30
Waggy
Yota
TJ
YJ
etc...............................
Flame suit on
:rasta:
CJ-Jeeper 01-29-2002, 05:42 PM It does'nt sound like you need that much. What do you expect to do with this Jeep & how much work are you willing to do on it?
If you are going to make a serious wheeler, all the above is good.
If not & only going to run 33's:
You already have a D44 in the back - just upgade to 30 spline flanged shafts when you do the locker.
Get a D30 from a '72 - '81 CJ, gear & lock it.
2001gtboy 01-29-2002, 07:16 PM Originally posted by CJ-Jeeper
It does'nt sound like you need that much. What do you expect to do with this Jeep & how much work are you willing to do on it?
If you are going to make a serious wheeler, all the above is good.
If not & only going to run 33's:
You already have a D44 in the back - just upgade to 30 spline flanged shafts when you do the locker.
Get a D30 from a '72 - '81 CJ, gear & lock it.
so i should hunt down a D30 for the front? i need the car to be a good above average off roader, yet capable of a few long road trips.
Jeepdude_Jay 01-29-2002, 07:24 PM You will want to, at the least, convert to Saginaw steering. Power steering would be a step better than that. Change to a one piece tie rod and a drag link also.
Good brakes are a must. If you upgrade to a D30 front like mentioned, get one with disk brakes. You can put disks on the rear too or at least 11" drums.
Jay
bigwillys 01-29-2002, 10:17 PM im pretty much in the exact same spot as you in this one. i have a 289, t-90, d-18, 44 rear, etc. i haven't heard too much about the front axles or the trannies in these old jeeps and mine isn't ready to wheel so i can't tell from experience. can someone tell me how this stuff holds up to 33s or 35s?
CJ-Jeeper 01-30-2002, 07:45 PM Like Jeepdude says, you have a lot of work to do for steering & brakes. You should probably convert to swinging padals with the master cyl. on the firewall.
If you really want something good on the highway, a Flatfender is not it.
2001gtboy 01-30-2002, 08:10 PM Originally posted by CJ-Jeeper
Like Jeepdude says, you have a lot of work to do for steering & brakes. You should probably convert to swinging padals with the master cyl. on the firewall.
If you really want something good on the highway, a Flatfender is not it.
as long as its faster then 55 mph, and can go in a relativly straight line ill be happy. im not asking for road performance, just simple ability. what exactly are swinging pedals?
oldjeep 01-30-2002, 08:29 PM Take a look at www.oldjeep.com for brake ideas. Mines a 46 and has been running 33's on the stock axles. broke a couple D25's and now it has a scout 44 on the front. I have also been running the stock steering - which I don't recommend, the belcrank pin shears off at the worst possible moments.
Flatty 01-30-2002, 10:22 PM build it my way... hahhaha full width 60 front an rear, chop the backof the cab off, go all tubes, 38's, small block, 420, 300, 1/4 ellip rear, SOA front, hydro assist steering, beadlocks, ... That would be a great daily driver and you would have pussy thrown in your face all day long. Oh yea, paint the bastard RED WHITE AND BLUE!!!!
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Dimitri
emsoffroad 01-31-2002, 12:01 AM The rear should be a 40/41 one of them, very funny looking cover. The t-90 do not like v-8 a whole lot. It will hold up fine for a long time, and besides you will find your friends giving you these trannies. Some how I ended up with about 6 of them, and never bought one. Just throw in a 30 and 44, both bolt in. swap steering, nothing good about bellcrank. Sell me the OD and buy my PTO w/winch for the 18.
I would also take a good look at your frame, the 2a had a multi piece welded together frame, they were fine for the 4 poper. you might want to use a 3a/b frame.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
All SWB Jeeps suck on road. Just gotta learn to deal with it.
Take the entire driveline and find some purist that will pay too much for the crap.
44's front and rear, and what ever tranny and case you want..SOA and look in to getting more WB...
CJ-Jeeper 01-31-2002, 09:06 AM Swinging pedals are mounted up under the dash, like the '72? & newer CJ's. The master cyl. is high on the firewall. I'm not all that familiar with the stock setup, but I think your brake pedal goes through the floor with the master cyl. below. I know a couple of guys who have done the conversion. Pretty sure AA sells the pedal assembly & everything you need for the conversion.
I thought the D41 was replaced by the D44 in the '46 2A. A buddy of mine has a '46 & it had a 44 when he got it. If I am wrong & you have a D41 rear, you need to replace that too.
A good way to go , in that case, would be get front & rear 44's from a mid '70's Waggoneer with Quadratrack. They will be wider (about 4" each side) for better stability. You will have to outboard your front springs. Might as well go to a wider spring while you are at it. There is tons of info about springs on this BB.
2001gtboy 01-31-2002, 09:20 AM i was told something or two about securing the frame to the body. how would i do that?
Grandpa Jeep 01-31-2002, 09:51 AM Originally posted by CJ-Jeeper
I thought the D41 was replaced by the D44 in the '46 2A. A buddy of mine has a '46 & it had a 44 when he got it. If I am wrong & you have a D41 rear, you need to replace that too.
A good way to go , in that case, would be get front & rear 44's from a mid '70's Waggoneer with Quadratrack. They will be wider (about 4" each side) for better stability. You will have to outboard your front springs. Might as well go to a wider spring while you are at it. There is tons of info about springs on this BB.
The D41 wasn't replaced until '50 or '51 in the 3A. My '50 still has the original D41 in it. It actually has a larger ring gear than the D44 and it uses the same 10 spline shafts (which are the weak point) You can get a lockrite for it, but that's it for lockers. I know of at least one guy who used a 19 spline D44 lockright in one along with some 19 spline D44 shafts.
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