I currently have a pair of 44's out of a scout and I could either rework the knuckles on the front ie add caster and grind a spring pad into the top of the housing or I have access to a empty chevy 44 housing which I could narrow down and add the internals of the scout axle if the housings are similar. I want to keep it light weight so no 60's and I need to keep a streetable width so I can not go full width.

I would narrow the chevy, and use the scout internals. Although, narrowing the chevy and rotating the knuckles on the scout are more or less the same amount of work.

The chevy housing also gains you thicker axle tubes. Since you have to turn the knuckles regardless of what axle you use you mise well use the chevy that is already set up for spring over, cutting the axle tubes dosent take that much extra time

look for waggy 44's I ran those for years, SOA with no problems at all. Almost a direct bolt in for a YJ

I agree on the Waggy 44's Just did the swap- the front is about 1" wiser than stock and the rear is about 1" narrower.
The knuckles are already set up with about 7 deg. of caster.

Need to stay pass side drop as it is a cj based rig.

Need to stay pass side drop as it is a cj based rig.


Waggie 44s from '74-79 are passenger drop. :shaking:

I know, thanks though. Are all the housings the same internally, Ie can I swap the gears.

Yes, a 44 is a 44 unless it's a Rubi or Grand Cherokee with the aluminum center section.

So what kind of chevy has the dana 44 in it? Do they have a front 44 or just the rear? :smokin:

Front only I do not think chevy ever used a 44 in the rear.

about the swapping gears- Some Fords had the HP D44. You cannot use those gears in a Standard 44. However being a HP - this axle (the R&P) when used in the front is about 30% stronger than a standard 44. But then you have the full width issue to deal with.

about the swapping gears- Some Fords had the HP D44. You cannot use those gears in a Standard 44. However being a HP - this axle (the R&P) when used in the front is about 30% stronger than a standard 44. But then you have the full width issue to deal with.
Please state the source for this %30 you state. Thanks.

Please state the source for this %30 you state. Thanks.

thats 30% stronger on the ring gear nothing else

Please state the source for this %30 you state. Thanks.

I know there is roughly a 11% increase in strength per increase in spline count. I heard to that there is roughly a 30% increase in the strength in the r&p of the hp dana 44 over a standard dana 44 in the front that is using the "coast side of the gear" and going in reverse while being used in the front. Also a rev dana 60 in the back is just a tad stronger than a reg dana 44 out back and some have said that a rev dana 44 in the rear a tad stronger than a dana 35. I think this is just related to the r&P and not the many other inherent weaknesses of the dana 35.

I know there is roughly a 11% increase in strength per increase in spline count. I heard to that there is roughly a 30% increase in the strength in the r&p of the hp dana 44 over a standard dana 44 in the front that is using the "coast side of the gear" and going in reverse while being used in the front. Also a rev dana 60 in the back is just a tad stronger than a reg dana 44 out back and some have said that a rev dana 44 in the rear a tad stronger than a dana 35. I think this is just related to the r&P and not the many other inherent weaknesses of the dana 35.

Please state your sources. If you have set up a rear HP 60 and a rear LP 44, you would find what you state hard to believe.

I wasn't referring to the shafts or the tubes at all - simply the R&P due to the pinion riding on the coast side of the ring gear. When used in the rear the HP is weaker, but daoes give the benifit of a better drive angle.

I wasn't referring to the shafts or the tubes at all - simply the R&P due to the pinion riding on the coast side of the ring gear. When used in the rear the HP is weaker, but daoes give the benifit of a better drive angle.

Stronger,yes. How much is debatable. Comparing LP44's to HP60's (as Bigredjeep1 did) is like comparing apples to oranges. I bet the only source for these claims is a drunk guy stumbling around a campfire talkin tech :flipoff2: .

On a somewhat related question, would the front and rear axles of a 79 Scout II use the same exact R&P. Are they both standard rotation?

Thanks.

Yes

about the swapping gears- Some Fords had the HP D44. You cannot use those gears in a Standard 44. However being a HP - this axle (the R&P) when used in the front is about 30% stronger than a standard 44. But then you have the full width issue to deal with.

The HP D44 is also driver's side drop, a little bit more to deal with.