You bet your bloomers they are! :grinpimp::grinpimp::grinpimp:



http://bbs.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/53-667735-KVboxinst.JPG

You lucky fawkin, rich, bastard!:flipoff2:
I hate you.:flipoff2:
So how much did the Klune-V set you back?

:eek: Lucky bastard, beat me to it :D So how big of a ring did you have to buy the wife?

Way to go, 'Burner! I think you just made every person on this board jealous! Let us know how it wheels. ~Steve

Yes, I Am Very Lucky - but maybe not for the reasons you're thinking...

I have a wife who LOVES to 'wheel and understands what gearing is all about :D She supports pretty much anything with my rig - that's because I usually am able to cover most of the costs with side projects & such.

I have a great job and don't have any kids.

For this project, I was able to sell my GRS II (which I bought used) and I picked up a Sam w/ a blown motor. I was planning to drop an extra 1.3L from a parts truck into it & sell it to finance the Klune.

I have been in contact with a Klune rep. ever since 'ZukiMelt last year (July) asking questions and basically telling him I was interested in one, but not at the kind of price they were asking. I kept incontact with him and helped him on several other projects he has been working on. Then an opportunity came about that allowed him to make me a deal I couldn't refuse :D So that's how I got it - I didn't just make a check out for 3 grand! It is one of the conditions of my deal that I can't reveal how little I actually paid for the K/V because of the special circumstances. Still a lot of money tho..

You are going to post pics, and a write up of installing it, right?

And don't forget all the testing you have to post about..

Originally posted by Bobzooki
You lucky bastard. :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

:beer: Bob :smokin:



You live in COLORADO & you're calling ME Lucky???

Gee, Bob, what did You do this weekend?
'Wheel in the Rockies?
Ski " " "
Hike " " "
Drive " " "
LOOK AT " " "



There is a pretty good write-up of the install on the Klune site, but I will post & give comments as the install progresses.

Looking for a #@*:nuke: !X#$ tranny seal right now :mad3:

Tim,
When you pull into moab don't park next to me or I'll have to show you MY new Klune while I listen to you ranting and raving about the s.o.b. that took yours.......JK--------I'm sofa king jealous.
Nice buy.


54 more days untill I head for EJS.....

Yea, I've seen that writeup..

I'm interested in the fit of that tranny tunnel cover.

Let me re-phrase that..

I'm interested hearing about:

1) The fit of the replacement tranny tunnel.

2) What xfer case arms are you using? Anyone?

3) How well it works with the stock xfer case.

A kluneV is on the shopping list for me..

Originally posted by tdavis
Let me re-phrase that..

I'm interested hearing about:

1) The fit of the replacement tranny tunnel.

2) What xfer case arms are you using? Anyone?

3) How well it works with the stock xfer case.

A kluneV is on the shopping list for me..



1. The tunnel seems to fit nice so far - don't like how you gotta cut into the driver's seat support, tho.

2. I beefed my own mounts. (carry spares also + lotsa rubber mounts)

3. TBD (to be determined) One thing that seems nice is that the planetary box comes with a new transmission mount, effectively tieing the t-case to the tranny. (it's the black part in front of the crawler box) The stock (for now?) tranny rubber mount bolts directly to the bottom of it.

it looks like a t-case ?

Originally posted by Guy
it looks like a t-case ?

Study here:

Klune-V (http://www.klunev.com/)

:flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: BASTARD!!!!!!!!!! :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

ya know I've herd of guys that could remove the K-v out of a rig in less then a minute:D :D :D :D :D

sweet

:barf: :crybaby2: :barf:
Damn... :barf:
NICE.

hey oilburner...if you are looking for a stock 5-speed sammy front and rear tranny oil seal...there are some on e-bay with the buy it now option for 14 bucks...just though you would like to know
zukikid

hey oilburner...if you are looking for a stock 5-speed sammy front and rear tranny oil seal...there are some on e-bay with the buy it now option for 14 bucks...just though you would like to know
zukikid
oh heres the addy:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=601244621

I've got 3k about to burn a hole in my pocket...:goofball:

somebody wanna explain to a newby what the hell that contraption is?

Klune V, its an under drive that gives you another 4/1 reduction on top of your t-case. It's kinda like a double t-case. There awsome for around 3K...:)

hey what about a group purchase on klunes? might get the price down a tad... seems like the cheapest way to get into is just bolt it to a d300 then you don't need the extra $900 worth of garbage to mate it to the sami case... might actually be kinda reasonable. :D not to mention the 8:1 reduction the 2 will give you.

Spending $100 (lowball price) on a D300 plus $3000 on 8:1 is resonable to you? :eek:

I LOVE MY TOYOTA I LOVE MY TOYOTA I LOVE MY TOYOTA I LOVE MY TOYOTA I LOVE MY TOYOTA...

$100 = Second top shifting T-case
$375 = T-Case to T-case adapter
$585 = 4.7:1 gearset for second case

And I won't need any adapters to mate it to my tranny, either. Total? $1,060 for 10.7:1... But I didn't include driveshafts, crossmembers, shipping, or any of the stuff you'll have to adress with either setup, though.

Okay... time to come clean. I spit all that out trying to convince myself that I'm not jealous. It didn't work. I'm jealous. :flipoff2:

Wait - OILBURNER lives in Memphis, too! I'm going to swing by his place later tonight... Tim, if you see a Klune for sale on EBay so I can fund my dual case project, I don't know anything about it. :D :D :D

~$1500 total to get the "3rd Lever" in a Toyota is Very Nice.

Too bad all the extra shiot it takes to get all that under a Samurai will put the project cost Over a Klune.
**Flame Suit ON** :D

I wasn't talking about putting it into a Samurai. :evil:

Originally posted by Yota_san
I wasn't talking about putting it into a Samurai. :evil:

I know but Lots of other guys are thinking about the Toyota 5 speed + dual t-cases in their Samurai :)

well if you figure $1700 for the klune, $200 for the d300 then just take care of the intermediate shaft. or you could spend what $600 for the adapter to mate the toy tranny to the suzuki engine, $400 for a dual case adapter, $585 for your 4.7 gears, 250 for the a tcase and and an extra crawler box, and then like what another $300 for a toy tranny? i count somewhere around $2200 there... plus you have to install the gears and you lose 3" of you driveshaft. me personally i'd rather have the klune. :flipoff2: plus "i" have a 4.89 tcase to help offset costs so it's not just straight out of pocket. this is the sami board so im assuming not everyone has the toy engine already in so they would need all this extra stuff.... why not just klune it at this point?

Yous guys are makin' me dizzy.. :barf:

Here's something to choke on.
T90 3speed mated to Dana 18 T-case (offset output).
The combo is VERY short and the gear combinations are mind bogglin'

Example with 4.56 axle gears - final reductions:
Sami 5sp __ T-90 __ Dana 18
___ 1st____1st_____ H = 57:1
___ 1st____ 1st____ L = 140:1
or the Kicker
___ Rev ____ Rev ___ L = 176:1 :eek:
.
AND a true 1:1 for highway driving! :bounce2:
.
.
I can almost hear the calculator going from here... :D :D :D :D

doesn't the d18 use a chain....? :barf:

Originally posted by okcrawler
Here's something to choke on.
T90 3speed mated to Dana 18 T-case (offset output).
The combo is VERY short and the gear combinations are mind bogglin':
.
.
I can almost hear the calculator going from here... :D :D :D :D

Been there - done that. I still have the tranny at my buddy's shop if you're interested in a good one. ;)

Originally posted by poppycock
doesn't the d18 use a chain....? :barf:

nope. all gears. what have you been :smokin: ?:flipoff2:

oic:emb:

oilburner... i'll trade you my grs2 for your klune and i'll even toss in a free goat for ya. :grinpimp:

Here are a few more spy shots of the rumored Klune install....

Looks like Tim Finally had to cut on that un-molested Zuk! :eek: :rolleyes: :smokin:

http://bbs.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/53-669412-KVtunnel.JPG
http://bbs.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/53-669414-KVtunnell2.JPG

Originally posted by CSR
Here are a few more spy shots of the rumored Klune install....

Looks like Tim Finally had to cut on that un-molested Zuk! :eek: :rolleyes: :smokin:


...un-molested?
He tore it's a$$ off when he put that flat bed on! But it does let him thrash in the rocks without much damage...:rolleyes:

Originally posted by billjohn
...un-molested?:rolleyes:

;)

oilburner... i'll trade you my grs2 for your klune and i'll even toss in a free goat for ya.

But if you stole it I mean borrowed it and put in front of your 4:89
wouldn't that be twice as nice or did I miss something;)

Originally posted by poppycock
oilburner... i'll trade you my grs2 for your klune and i'll even toss in a free goat for ya. :grinpimp:

Gee.....I'll have to think about that one.....





Okay I thought about it - no, thanks anyway;)

Originally posted by billjohn


...un-molested?
He tore it's a$$ off when he put that flat bed on! But it does let him thrash in the rocks without much damage...:rolleyes:

I'll have you know I did NOT ....


I CUT it's a$$ off. :D

Not to mention the generous front fender "trimming".

"To achieve Enlightenment, Grasshoppah, Ye Must part with the sheetmetal." :)

Check this one out.

Airzuki's brother (the other 3rd of the OTT connection) has a flat fender with a slightly extended wheelbase (read about the same as 80% of you on this board). In his rig he is sporting a toyota four speed (L43) with a 3.83 first gear. This is then mated to a T-90 trans (out of a heep) with a 2.72 first gear (yes two transmissions). This combo is capped off with a d-18 t'case with a 2.46 low range and 4.10's in the diffs. So the gearheads among you have already calc'd a 105:1. Whoppee right? Now for the cool part if you run both trannies in reverse the truck actually goes forward (come on think about it!). Both reverse gears are lower than the 1st's which equates to a respectable 182:1 (reverse-reverse-low). Here's the kicker all of those drivetrain components are stock from junked vehicles and pretty darn inexpensive to come buy. Imagine throwing in some 5.13's (now 227:1 in rev rev low). Add a low range gearset to the t-case of 3.15:1 gives you 291:1. Finally cap it off with a Saturn (read from an old willies or AA) you've got highway cruising and stupid low all in a package that could theoretically fit in a sami wheelbase at a fraction of the cost of a KV or dual toys, adapters and yadda yadda.

This also equates to 5 shifters (if you include the overdrive) and 24 gear combinations (without the o/d- 48 with it!). Oh yeah and the d-18 is twin sticked from the factory which means seperate high and low ranges forboth 4wd and 2wd. Can you say Uniheep?

IT pays to have a machinist for a brother I suppose. But maybe OTT wants to make a kit? Ha ha ha ha sorry Chris/Ben/Rick!

Anyways here is the <a href="http://209.153.207.132/fv/2000/colson/colson.cfm">link</a> if you want to read it. While you are there check out airzuki's rig too.

Later,
Dave
aka Shogunator:flipoff2:

Yep It's great having Ben around.........But here's an adapter I made..............the guys on the Jeep board were asking about it

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=28964


:D :D

The Toy-T90-Dana18 Worked alright (while it lasted) but I didn't think it would hold up to a 4.3 V6

The thread started when a Guy was asking wheter he should go for a SM420 or a T18....I said go for both...:D

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=26943&pagenumber=2

Hey CRO,
That definately kicks A$$. 400:1 and 250 ftlbs, WOW! I've heard you guys talk about stupid low and that's definately the cats meow on that one. So any thoughts on a nv 4500 to a t19 to an d300? ha ha! Probably too long and then I'd need 60's instead of 44's. Oh btw, though I think you might know who I am I want to make sure... well for a couple of reasons. I was talking to you at the sporttrucks show when you guys where displaying the divorced toy case for sami's. We talked for quite a while. I'm putting the 4.3L vortec with a 700r4 and d300 in my zuk. I'm one of Steve's friends. He used to make stuff for me (the fullfloating sidekick like spidertrax and my semi floater sidekick offset to sami) before he moved and sold the truck. My friend rhys picked up Steve's truck when he got the neon. I don't know if any of this is ringing a bell or not...
Any how thanks for letting me in on what's going on. Maybe sometime I will be lucky enough to check out the NOSLO heavy duty parts inventory/graveyard. Steve said it's kind of like the Disney land with way cooler stuff. I don't think I have that much drool though.
thanks again!
Dave
aka Shogunator

:)

Originally posted by dumb
rhys picked up Steve's truck when he got the neon.

:)


...talking about a change of Pace....:eek:

Hey guys, hopefully I will have my tranny seal today & I'll be able to get the Klune installed this weekend. I will post comments on the install Monday when I get back to the computer.

Have a good one -

Originally posted by dumb
Hey CRO,
That definately kicks A$$. 400:1 and 250 ftlbs, WOW! I've heard you guys talk about stupid low and that's definately the cats meow on that one. So any thoughts on a nv 4500 to a t19 to an d300? ha ha! Probably too long and then I'd need 60's instead of 44's
:)

If you can find the Scout t19 to D300 setup........ I could get that to fit behind the 4500.... it would take a while though........
You would be right up there with the low range .......
5.79(dodge 4500) x 6.32(T19) x 2.66 x 4.10 (axle??) = 400:1
you would be even lower in Rev/Rev...... and you would have an overdrive too......:smokin:

Originally posted by Yota_san
I LOVE MY TOYOTA I LOVE MY TOYOTA I LOVE MY TOYOTA I LOVE MY TOYOTA I LOVE MY TOYOTA...

Originally posted by Bobzooki
...and you are on the Suzuki Talk board WHY?
Man, I gotta just make stuff up to lose this newbie tag.

Actually, that's a very valid objection. The reason I'm in here is simple. Research. I plan on making my very own Samurai-Toyota hybrid someday. I love my drivetrain. But everything else is too big and heavy (words not associated with Toyotas, except in the Sammy board :D) for the engine it's got pushing it.

So I'm gonna lighten it up to 2500-3000 pounds with a very aggressive "cut-whatever-that-thing-is-off-and-replace-it-with-tube" , and build a light lil' flatbed like Oilburners, except tied into an exo-cage. All with Toy rear spings (offset center pin lets you move the axles toward the ends) at both ends, and a 105-110" wheelbase. And a Samurai body from the firewall to back right behind the seats, a sammy hood, and a tube front similar to AZrockcrawlers.

Does that answer your question? Oh, and I like feeling smart by spouting off stuff all the Toy guys already know about Toy axles and Tcases on this board. Makes me feel smart. :p

Now, back to the Klune! Pics and stuff... PLEEEEEZE:) :) :)

Didn't get to work on the rig as much as planned - had to help a buddy out of a jam but that's alright because I had some questions to call the "K"-people about:

Exactly how much gear oil does the box hold? Instructions say "... pour gear oil in until gearbox is half filled.." (through the top shifter opening) Answer: One Quart.


Had to do more shiot metal trimming, but that was mostly due to how I have raised my drivetrain an inch or so. Also need to re-engineer a mount to reflect my needs.

For the Klune to work, you basically have to remove the "shaft" part of the stub-shaft between the tranny & t-case. You wind up with a flange, one u-joint, and the slip-yoke part. Well, once you got everything shoe-horned in (It is Good-n-TIGHT) you are suposed to check that the shaft will move a certain way, and I'll be darned if I could figure out how you're supposed to get your hand in there to check it - there just isn't room. Luke @ Klune 'splained it to me so maybe I'll have time to look at it tonight - I've been Slammed at work staying late:barf:

More Soon...

PS - That Biatch is HEAVY

how much would you guess that sucker weighs? and again.... you bastard! :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Originally posted by poppycock
how much would you guess that sucker weighs? and again.... you bastard! :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Well, let's see: a stock Sam t-case weighs in at about 45 pounds, and the Klune box probably weighs every bit as much as that, too. So you're under the rig trying to he-ho 90+ pounds and maneuver it up into place. Not that it's That bad, but after a few tries to determine what needs to be trimmed some more, it gets a tad heavy. I'm doing it by myself so that doesn't make things any easier.

Oh yeah - wanted to mention that you pretty much gotta remove the exhaust, too. Mine wasn't designed to come apart anywhere, but it is Now....:D

Originally posted by 0ILBURNER
[B]
Not that it's That bad, but after a few tries to determine what needs to be trimmed some more, it gets a tad heavy. I'm doing it by myself so that doesn't make things any easier.


How much more difficult is it with your added cross member for the rear coils? I dropped my T-case for the first time since I did my coils and my new cross member made it interesting. The old case dropped right out, but it took me 10 min of wrestling to find the magic spot to get the new one back up there. I certainly felt your pain the day after... ;) ...

But, we are still blessed. I helped Steve install his 203/205 dual case into his Blazer Saturday. I swear that 205 weighs more than my MOTOR! :p

Actually I'm running 1/4 elliptic leaf springs in the rear (felt they would provide a little more lateral stability)
The mount for the single upper arm is well out of the way. ;)

Actually lifting the assembly isn't so bad - it's wrestling (or rather Rasslin') it up off the concrete & onto your chest, THEN bench-pressing it. I tried a creeper, but every time I tried to maneuver the case into place, the creeper would move :p

Originally posted by 0ILBURNER
Actually I'm running 1/4 elliptic leaf springs in the rear

Humm, you've either change it since the last time I saw it, or I've been sniffing too much exhaust fumes... :D

I know what ya mean about the creeper. My driveway has a pretty good slope to it. Back in my Sami axle days, I attempted to stab the rear axle 3rd member while riding on my creeper. I managed to snag a nerf bar with my foot just before my head hit the front axle.... :) Sometimes gravity sucks :rasta:....

I've always run leaf springs......

just went from 1/2 elliptic to 1/4



http://bbs.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/53-676885-LC15a.jpg

Ok. Maybe I need to open the garage door more often... :D :D :D :D

OK guys, we got some snow last night, and it's melting now - the temp's supposed to start dropping after lunch = Ice, so I'll probably be able to get outta here at a decent time today. Got the bracket modified last night & everything is ready for the final install. I'll bring the camera home (if it's available) and post results. :D

Got the box installed last night - fits just fine once you get the trimmin' right. The t-case shifter is LOTS of fun - you get to heat it up with a torch SEVERAL times to get it 'right' :rolleyes:

I'll have better pic's when I have some daylight to work with.

http://bbs.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/53-679393-MVC-004F.JPG

I bet your dying to fire that thing up...................

Originally posted by Azrckcrawler
I bet your dying to fire that thing up...................

Yeah, been fighting some sort of flu bug this week, on top of work being unusually heavy = working late.

Hopefully by this weekend I will be able to finish everything up. Still have to get some exhaust work done, too. Going to have them put a flange in so I can remove it in case I ever need to drop it again (it never was an issue before the Klune).

It is hard to imagine having more than Twice the crawl ratio available that I had before! 94.5:1 vs. 218:1!
I remember on one ledge I was attempting at Las Cruces, I needed to "bip" the throttle to help get up & Max commented: "Gee - he Does have a throttle in that thing." Wait'll he gets a load of how SLOW I can go Now! :grinpimp:

:grinpimp: :grinpimp: :grinpimp:

I need to come over sometime and take a look at the BurnerMobile, Tim.

My High Steer arms had a small problem with the fabbing process, so I'm on hold with my Toy's SAS until Mark at Kongs4x4 gets a new set fabbed up and shipped to me. I'm going to try and do it over springs break now (March 4-8).

So I have nothing to do right now except try and beat the fawking cone washers out of my locking hubs... been at it for 3 days. I need a break. :rolleyes:

When I have it ready for show 'n tell I'll let you know :)

My work is Far from what you'd call "Purdy" but right now it looks like it's in labor, having a c-section at that!:nuke:

Sounds good. I'd like to see it :D

I understand about the parts all over the garage thing. Helped a buddy put a 302 in his Jeep, and it wasn't a pretty sight when I showed up to his normally tidy shop with the 258 hanging from the rafters, and the EFI 5.0 wiring harness laying all over the engine bay...

What are you doing about the crossmember? You gonna put a skidplate under the Klune? It's not exactly a cheap thing to drag along the rocks, but I guess it's pretty high up, and them things are pretty beefy.

Going to need new driveshafts, right? How far did that throw your t-case back?

Originally posted by Yota_san
Sounds good. I'd like to see it :D

A. What are you doing about the crossmember?

B. You gonna put a skidplate under the Klune? It's not exactly a cheap thing to drag along the rocks, but I guess it's pretty high up, and them things are pretty beefy.

C.Going to need new driveshafts, right? How far did that throw your t-case back?



A. No modification needed to the crossmember.

B. I have a skidplate under the t-case, but haven't thought about having one under the Klune - it is pretty high up in there (above stock tranny crossmember) but will have to get everything together for final evaluation.

C. No driveshaft modifications whatsoever - the Klune LITERALLY replaces the stub shaft between the tranny & t-case. Why do you think these things cost so damn much??

CONVENIENCE. Except for the tunnel cutting it Bolts In.
Well, at least the gearbox bolts in. The t-case shifter is another thing all together:


http://bbs.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/53-679652-MVC-004F.JPG



:skull:

Well I didn't put quite enough 'kink' in my t-case shifter - I only have 4WD hi & lo for now - good enough :D I will be tidying things up and doing a test run tomorrow. Then probably come up to the maint. dept. to use the torch to get the t-case shifter right. Then it's off to the murfler shop.



About the Klune skid-plate question: the stock transmission crossmember covers the front half of the gearbox, and the front part of my t-case skid plate covers the other half = no plate needed for the Klune.

What do you mean by "test run"? Rolling it down the driveway while walking along side it?

I know you're not actually going to take it out somewhere that could get it muddy around here, right? I don't see any tags in the above pic, so I assume you can't drive it around here anyway, right?

Originally posted by Yota_san
What do you mean by "test run"? Rolling it down the driveway while walking along side it?

I know you're not actually going to take it out somewhere that could get it muddy around here, right? I don't see any tags in the above pic, so I assume you can't drive it around here anyway, right?

Well, you see, I don't really live "around here". I live Out a ways from Memfrica, and can pretty much drive it up & down the county roads. There are a couple of places I can twist it up good, but not much to climb except ditches. :rolleyes:

http://bbs.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/53-687515-MVC-011F.JPG

Not the greatest pic, but it looks pretty good - I can crawl along in 2WD Hi + the Klune in Low, and the C.R. is lower than it was with my GRS II! :grinpimp:


http://bbs.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/53-687516-MVC-012F.JPG

Got the exhaust fixed today - I got 2 flange couplings installed so that you can remove the middle portion of the system in case I ever need to pull the assembly out. You can see that the Klune case is tucked Way up in there - not much chance of damage. With the exhaust quieted down, I drove it down the street - the Klune box is non-existent (quiet). Time to plan our next trip :D
CSR, are you listening?.......

Originally posted by 0ILBURNER
Time to plan our next trip :D
CSR, are you listening?.......

I hear ya! There's Tellico in March with the B-ham crew, if you can wait that long. I personally would like to get a ride in before that. Do you wanna go check out that place in Summertown? Anybody else from our area wanna get together and 'wheel?

Our group was just out in Summertown last weekend. I didn't go because my rear bearings are shot and gear oil is oozing into the brakes. Axle swap should be done over spring break (March 1-9), along with 36" TSLs (If I can get a hold of the guy selling them :mad:.) and a set of 5.29s... but it looks like the crawler gearset is out in favor of a set of "Longfields".

If you're intersted in Summertown, check out the Trail Rides section on tennesseeoffroad.com's bulletin board. There are links to pics from last weekends trip there, as well as some older rides.

Also, I think we're going to try and get back up to LBL sometime in April (?) - the same weekend as a Jeep Jamboree - but not as a part of it, so the Tuff&Ugly guys can bump into some of their buddies without paying the huge ($2-300!) fee to be a part of the avctual event & it's trail rides.

After having some time to drive/wheel my rig w/ the klune in it over the weekend, here are some observations I have made:

The 4:1 is EXTREMELY NOISY. I'm talking about "cat-in-heat howling" noisy. Alarmed at first, I talked with Luke at Klune and he agreed that the straight-cut planetary gears for the 4:1 case are rather noisy at speed. You haven't heard much (nothing in my case) about this noise, because your average Klune buyer is putting it in a Jeep or a Bronco w/ V-8 power, and they keep the box in 1:1 until the going gets tough - then they are seldom going very fast in low. Also, the t-case in the Samurai is mounted Very high, as compared to other vehicles - add the aluminum tranny tunnel, and the sound is amplified.
I was experimenting, running the t-case in 2wd with the Klune in Low, for a 2WD-Low feature to run the easier parts of the trails. Before you even get to 2nd, the noise is overwhelming - just an ultra-low-geared whine, but audible over my open-cab + diesel engine. There isn't much noise idling along or crawling - I even drug a rather large tree off the edge of the yard. I was upset at first, but after driving it this way I decided the point was moot, as 109:1 is too slow to run the trails for me, anyway. So now I will go with the Klune in 1:1 and the stock Sam t-case in Low-range. It seems a tad fast but I was always lagging behind the pack with my GRS II anyway so this will speed things up a bit (44:1) It is nice for easy trails, but when it gets steep I'll have to stop & shift the t-case into High-range, and shift the Klune to Low. I always said I liked to "work those levers"...

This brings me to my next point: Because I was a dumb-ass & didn't think about it, I did not change the shift pattern in my stock t-case to the "H-Pattern" so I'd have 2WD-Low. I'll get over it - I'm going to Toyota power steering as we speak, and hopefully it will be alright, but I would HIGHLY recommend the 2WD-Low option on any Samurai Klune install.

The noise is the ONLY problem I have with the product, and it won't be such a big deal since I won't be tearing down the trails with it in 4:1. Crawling along w/ some gearbox noise is fine with me. For the record Luke @ Klune offered to exchange the gearbox right away, but after we talked awhile, I'm going to run it & examine the gear oil to make sure there are no metal shavings in it. If there are, he said he'd send me a box so my down-time would be minimized. Luke also encouraged me to give him continuing long-term feedback on my set-up and gave me references to other Samurai guys w/ the Klune so we could share info about this noise issue. Every one I've contacted says: "Yeah, it's loud in Low if you drive fast, but the only time I'm in low is when I'm crawling." I agree with their collective statement.

I am Completely Satisfied with the Klune, and would recommend it to Anyone willing to lose their tranny tunnell :D

Sounds good. I likes to be in da loop. :D

You know, you could always get Scwafish to build you a nice :vader2:STEALTH CONSOLE :vader2:

... I bet the RAM (Radar-Absorbing Material) would cut down on some of the sound. :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Originally posted by Yota_san
You know, you could always get Scwafish to build you a nice :vader2:STEALTH CONSOLE :vader2:

... I bet the RAM (Radar-Absorbing Material) would cut down on some of the sound. :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:



I bet you're right :D A couple of guys I've talked to have added sound-dampening materail to the underside of their tranny tunnells, and report that it does make a difference. Probably more critical on a streeter, but I really don't hear any noise from the box At All with it in 1:1 mode. I reckon I'll run with mine az-iz and keep an eye on the gear oil.

I will give everyone a report after the first challenging trail ride.

Regards --

you could always get Scwafish to build you a nice STEALTH CONSOLE

You don't have the security clearance!

Originally posted by 0ILBURNER
I reckon I'll run with mine az-iz and keep an eye on the gear oil.


question - is it dino oil, or synthetic oil your running in it?

Would switching from one to the other possibly help quiet it down?

The other thought - the more you drive it, the quieter it might become?

Thanks!

I'm running full synthetic in it now, which tends to be a little on the thin side. Running a conventional, heavier gear oil might make some difference. Luke said that the unit will get more quiet the more I use it, but I take that statement with a grain of salt, ya know..... ;)